House of Lords Journal 237 (Session 2003-04)


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Thursday 11th March 2004

The House met at a quarter before ten o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Falconer of Thoroton, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Andrews, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Arran, E.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Bhatia, L.
Biffen, L.
Billingham, B.
Bingham of Cornhill, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blaker, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blood, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Boyce, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Brennan, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brigstocke, B.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Brown of Eaton-under-
Heywood, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carswell, L.
Carter, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chelmsford, Bp.
Chorley, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cockfield, L.
Coe, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colwyn, L.
Condon, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Courtown, E.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Croham, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dearing, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elles, B.
Elton, L.
Emerton, B.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Feldman, L.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Fowler, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Gilbert, L.
Glentoran, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.

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Grantchester, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Grenfell, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Grocott, L.
Hale of Richmond, B.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Healey, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hoffmann, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Joffe, L.
Jones, L.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laird, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Layard, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levy, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
Maddock, B.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mancroft, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mishcon, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montrose, D.
Morgan, L.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L.
Naseby, L.
Newby, L.
Newcastle, Bp.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.
Noakes, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Palmer, L.
Palumbo, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Parkinson, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Plumb, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Radice, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Russell, E.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Selsdon, L.
Sewel, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Sheldon, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Steyn, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.

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Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Triesman, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Waddington, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Gestingthorpe, L.
Walker of Worcester, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Windlesham, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chelmsford.

Judicial Business

1.Regina v. Her Majesty’s Coroner for the Western District of Somerset (Respondent) and another (Appellant) ex parte Middleton (FC) (Respondent)—The 19th Report from the Appellate Committee was made and ordered to be printed (HL Paper 51). It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the Report be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the declaration of the Court of Appeal made in the Order of the Court of Appeal of 27 March 2002 be set aside; that the order for costs made by the Court of Appeal be undisturbed; that there be no order as to the costs of the appeal to this House save for provision for funded client taxation; and that the costs of the respondent Middleton in this House be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999. [2004] UKHL 10
2.Regina v. Her Majesty’s Coroner for the County of West Yorkshire (Appellant) ex parte Sacker (FC) (Respondent)—The 20th Report from the Appellate Committee was made and ordered to be printed (HL Paper 52). It was moved by the Lord Bingham of Cornhill, That the Report be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 27 February 2003 be affirmed and the appeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the respondent Sacker in this House be taxed in accordance with the Access to Justice Act 1999. [2004] UKHL 11
3.In re McKerr (AP) (Respondent) (Northern Ireland)—It was moved by the Lord Nicholls of Birkenhead, That the 21st Report from the Appellate Committee be agreed to; the motion was agreed to. It was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal in Northern Ireland of 10 January 2003 be set aside save as to legal aid taxation; that the Order of Mr Justice Campbell of 26 July 2002 be restored and the respondent’s application for judicial review dismissed; and that the question of costs be adjourned for later consideration. [2004] UKHL 12
4.Oxfordshire County Council (Petitioners) v. Oxford City Council and another (Respondents)—The petition of Oxfordshire County Council praying for leave for an appeal to be brought direct from the High Court of Justice in accordance with Part II of the Administration of Justice Act 1969 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
5.Her Majesty’s Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Appellants) v. Scottish Provident Institution (Respondents) (Scotland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.

The House was resumed.

Papers

6.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Pay Review Bodies—Report of the Review Body on Doctors’ and Dentists’ Remuneration;
 (6127)
2.Coroner Services—Reforming the Coroner and Death Certification Service: Government Proposals;
 (6159)
3.Defence—Minute from the Ministry of Defence on the Non-Insurance of the Submarine Reactor Fuel “Core Factory”.
 (—)
7.Affirmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Draft European Parliament (Disqualification) (United Kingdom and Gibraltar) Order 2004, laid under the European Parliamentary Elections Act 2002, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;
2.Draft European Parliament (Number of MEPs) (United Kingdom and Gibraltar) Order 2004, laid under the European Parliament (Representation) Act 2003, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;

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3.Draft Lay Magistrates (Eligibility) (Northern Ireland) Order 2004, laid under the Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002, together with an Explanatory Memorandum;
4.Draft Non-Domestic Rating (Chargeable Amounts) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2004, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1988, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.
8.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1. (i)National Health Service (Performers Lists) Regulations 2004—(585)
(ii)National Health Service (Charges to Overseas Visitors) (Amendment) Regulations 2004—(614)
(iii)National Health Service (Personal Medical Services Agreements) Regulations 2004—(627)
(iv)National Health Service (General Medical Services Contracts) (Prescription of Drugs etc.) Regulations 2004—(629)
(v)National Health Service (Optical Charges and Payments) and (General Ophthalmic Services) Amendment Regulations 2004—(642)
(vi)NHS Professionals Special Health Authority (Establishment and Constitution) Amendment Order 2004—(648)
(vii)National Health Service (Charges for Drugs and Appliances) and (Travel Expenses and Remission of Charges) Amendment Regulations 2004—(663)
 laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;
2.Merchant Shipping (Light Dues) (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995;
 (610)
3. (i)Commission for Social Care Inspection (Children’s Rights Director) Regulations 2004—(615)
(ii)Health and Social Care (Community Health and Standards) Act 2003 (Supplementary and Consequential Provision) (NHS Foundation Trusts) Order 2004—(696)
 laid under the Health and Social Care (Community Health and Standards) Act 2003;
4.Police (Complaints and Misconduct) Regulations 2004, laid under the Police Act 1997;
 (643)
5.Police Authorities (Best Value) Performance Indicators Order 2004, laid under the Local Government Act 1999;
 (644)
6.Police (Conduct) Regulations 2004, laid under the Police Act 1996;
 (645)
7.Income-related Benefits (Subsidy to Authorities) Amendment Order 2004, laid under the Social Security Administration Act 1992;
 (646)
8. (i)Independent Police Complaints Commission (Staff Conduct) Regulations 2004—(660)
(ii)Independent Police Complaints Commission (Transitional Provisions) Order 2004—(671)
(iii)Independent Police Complaints Commission (Forces Maintained Otherwise than by Police Authorities) Order 2004—(672)
 laid under the Police Reform Act 2002;
9.Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004, laid under the Communications Act 2003;
 (692)
10. (i)Evaluation of Active Substances for Pesticides (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2004—(694)
(ii)Fees for Assessment of Active Substances (Third Stage Review) Regulations 2004—(695)
 laid under the European Communities Act 1972;
11.Advocacy Services and Representations Procedure (Children) (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid under the Children Act 1989;
 (719)
12.Draft Greenwich Park, Hyde Park and The Regent’s Park (Vehicle Parking) (Amendment) Regulations 2004, laid under the Parks Regulation (Amendment) Act 1926.
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Public Business

9.Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 (Continuance in force of sections 21 to 23) Order 2004—It was moved by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal that the draft Order laid before the House on 20th January be approved; then it was moved by the Lord Holme of Cheltenham, as an amendment thereto, at end to insert “but this House calls on Her Majesty’s Government to replace Part 4 of the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 with alternative provisions which do not require derogation from the European Convention on Human Rights”; after debate, the amendment was disagreed to (see division list 1); then the original motion was agreed to.
10.Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000 (Renewal of Temporary Provisions) Order 2004—It was moved by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that the draft Order laid before the House on 12th February be approved; then it was moved by the Lord Laird, as an amendment thereto, to leave out all the words after “That” and insert “this House declines to approve the draft Order laid before the House on 12th February”; after debate, the amendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); then the original motion was agreed to.
11.Domestic Violence, Crime and Victims Bill [HL]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 3 and 4); further consideration on report was adjourned after amendment 75A.

The House was adjourned at three minutes before seven o’clock
to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.


DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

ANTI-TERRORISM, CRIME AND SECURITY ACT 2001
(CONTINUANCE IN FORCE OF SECTIONS 21 TO 23) ORDER 2004

It was moved by the Lord Holme of Cheltenham, as an amendment to the motion that the draft Order be approved, at end to insert “but this House calls on Her Majesty’s Government to replace Part 4 of the Anti-terrorism, Crime and Security Act 2001 with alternative provisions which do not require derogation from the European Convention on Human Rights”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents..............44

Not-Contents..............106

CONTENTS

Addington, L. [Teller]
Avebury, L.
Barker, B.
Bradshaw, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Dearing, L.
Dholakia, L.
Ezra, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooson, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Joffe, L.
Judd, L.
Laird, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lyell, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
Maddock, B.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Morgan, L.
Northover, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rennard, L.
Roper, L. [Teller]
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L.
Walmsley, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B. (Lord President)
Andrews, B.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Billingham, B.
Borrie, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carter, L.
Chorley, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Condon, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crawley, B.
David, B.
Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]
Denham, L.
Desai, L.

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Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dubs, L.
Eden of Winton, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gale, B.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Kilclooney, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Luke, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Moynihan, L.
Palmer, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Radice, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Richard, L.
Rooker, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sewel, L.
Sheldon, L.
Simon, V.
Slim, V.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Triesman, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Weatherill, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.

Division No. 2

POLICE (NORTHERN IRELAND) ACT 2000
(RENEWAL OF TEMPORARY PROVISIONS) ORDER 2004

It was moved by the Lord Laird, as an amendment to the motion that the draft Order be approved, to leave out all the words after “That” and insert “this House declines to approve the draft Order laid before the House on 12th February”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents..............45

Not-Contents..............134

CONTENTS

Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Biffen, L.
Blood, B.
Bridgeman, V.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Chalfont, L.
Coe, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Denham, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundee, E.
Eden of Winton, L.
Feldman, L.
Fookes, B.
Fowler, L.
Glentoran, L.
Greenway, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Hooper, B.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kingsland, L.
Laird, L. [Teller]
Lucas, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L. [Teller]
Miller of Hendon, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Moynihan, L.
Naseby, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Plumb, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Seccombe, B.
Skelmersdale, L.
Wilcox, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B. (Lord President)
Andrews, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Barker, B.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Blackstone, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carter, L.
Chorley, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Condon, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Crawley, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.

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Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dubs, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gale, B.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hooson, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hylton, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Morgan, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Newby, L.
Northover, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Palmer, L.
Paul, L.
Pendry, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Richard, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Russell, E.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sewel, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sheldon, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Triesman, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.

DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, CRIME AND VICTIMS BILL [HL]

Division No. 3

It was moved by the Baroness Anelay of St Johns, in Clause 9, page 6, line 36, to leave out “impracticable” and insert “unmanageable”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents..............85

Not-Contents..............90

CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Avebury, L.
Barker, B.
Blaker, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Bradshaw, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brigstocke, B.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burnham, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Coe, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]
Craigavon, V.
Dholakia, L.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Fowler, L.
Glentoran, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Higgins, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Hylton, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
Kingsland, L.
Laird, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Marlesford, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Moynihan, L.
Naseby, L.
Newby, L.
Newcastle, Bp.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.
Roper, L.
Russell, E.
Seccombe, B. [Teller]

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Selborne, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Walmsley, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Weatherill, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Alli, L.
Amos, B. (Lord President)
Andrews, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Bhatia, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blood, B.
Borrie, L.
Bragg, L.
Brennan, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carter, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Condon, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Crawley, B.
Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]
Dixon, L.
Dubs, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Gale, B.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Gilbert, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jordan, L.
Judd, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Morgan, L.
Palmer, L.
Paul, L.
Pendry, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rea, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rooker, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sewel, L.
Sheldon, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Triesman, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.

Division No. 4

It was moved by the Baroness Anelay of St Johns, in Clause 11, page 7, line 39, at end to insert “but only when the sample count has, at a preparatory hearing before the trial which led to the conviction for the sample count, been linked in accordance with section 9 to the counts which might be tried without a jury”; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents..............63

Not-Contents..............92

CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Avebury, L.
Barker, B.
Bridgeman, V.
Brigstocke, B.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burnham, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Coe, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L. [Teller]
Denham, L.
Dundee, E.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elton, L.
Fookes, B.
Fowler, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Higgins, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Kingsland, L.
Laird, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Marlesford, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Moynihan, L.
Newby, L.
Northover, B.
O’Cathain, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Parkinson, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Rawlings, B.
Renton, L.
Roper, L.
Russell, E.
Seccombe, B. [Teller]
Selborne, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Skelmersdale, L.

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Steel of Aikwood, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L.
Walmsley, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Alli, L.
Amos, B. (Lord President)
Andrews, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Bhatia, L.
Blackstone, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Blood, B.
Borrie, L.
Brennan, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carter, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Crawley, B.
Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]
Dixon, L.
Dubs, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gale, B.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Gilbert, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grantchester, L.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Healey, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hoyle, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jordan, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Levy, L.
Lipsey, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mishcon, L.
Morgan, L.
Palmer, L.
Pendry, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rea, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rooker, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sewel, L.
Sheldon, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Tomlinson, L.
Triesman, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Weatherill, L.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.