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Division No. 1


CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Ampthill, L.
Barker, B.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Billingham, B.
Bragg, L.
Condon, L.
Coventry, Bp.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Dholakia, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Falkland, V.
Falkner of Margravine, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Finlay of Llandaff, B. [Teller]
Gale, B.
Garden, L.
Goodhart, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hollick, L.
Hooson, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Laird, L.
Ludford, B.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Manchester, Bp.
Michie of Gallanach, B.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Morgan, L.
Murphy, B.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Northover, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Ouseley, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Patel, L.
Pendry, L.
Peston, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renton, L.
Richardson of Calow, B.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sheldon, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Stern, B.
Taverne, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Walmsley, B. [Teller]
Warnock, B.
Whitaker, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williamson of Horton, L.


NOT-CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B. (Lord President of the Council)
Andrews, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor, V.
Attlee, E.
Bach, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Bell, L.
Bhattacharyya, L.
Birt, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Bowness, L.
Brennan, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter of Coles, L.
Chadlington, L.
Chandos, V.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L. [Teller]
Dearing, L.
Deedes, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Donoughue, L.
Drayson, L.
Dubs, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Emerton, B.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fearn, L.
Feldman, L.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Gavron, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Giddens, L.
Glentoran, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grocott, L. [Teller]
Hanham, B.
Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henig, B.
Henley, L.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooper, B.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jones, L.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Kalms, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Laidlaw, L.
Laming, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layard, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montrose, D.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Moser, L.
Moynihan, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
O'Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Parekh, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Parkinson, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Quirk, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Reay, L.
Rees, L.
Richard, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rooker, L.
Rosser, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Simon, V.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Snape, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Tebbit, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Thatcher, B.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tomlinson, L.
Trenchard, V.
Triesman, L.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Ullswater, V.
Vinson, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Weatherill, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.


Resolved in the negative and amendment disagreed to accordingly.


 
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[Amendment No. 106A had been withdrawn from the Marshalled List.]

Lord Lester of Herne Hill moved Amendment No. 106B:


"REASONABLE PUNISHMENT
(1) In relation to any offence specified in subsection (2), battery of a child cannot be justified on the ground that it constituted reasonable punishment.
(2) The offences referred to in subsection (1) are—
(a) an offence under section 18 or 20 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861 (c. 100) (wounding and causing grievous bodily harm);
(b) an offence under section 47 of that Act (assault occasioning actual bodily harm);
(c) an offence under section 1 of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933 (c. 12) (cruelty to persons under 16).
(3) Battery of a child causing actual bodily harm to the child cannot be justified in any civil proceedings on the ground that it constituted reasonable punishment.
(4) For the purposes of subsection (3) "actual bodily harm" has the same meaning as it has for the purposes of section 47 of the Offences against the Person Act 1861 (c. 100).
(5) In section 1 of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933 (c. 12), omit subsection (7)."

The noble Lord said: My Lords, I beg to move Amendment No. 106B, to which I have already spoken.

[Amendments Nos. 106C to 106E not moved.]

On Question, Whether the said amendment (No. 106B) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 226; Not-Contents, 91.


Division No. 2


CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B. (Lord President of the Council)
Andrews, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barker, B.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Bhattacharyya, L.
Billingham, B.
Birt, L.
Blackstone, B.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Bowness, L.
Bragg, L.
Brennan, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Buscombe, B.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L.
Carter of Coles, L.
Chandos, V.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Condon, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Cumberlege, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dearing, L.
Desai, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Donoughue, L.
Drayson, L.
Dubs, L.
Elder, L.
Emerton, B.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Falkner of Margravine, B.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Fearn, L.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Freyberg, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Gale, B.
Garden, L.
Gavron, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Giddens, L.
Golding, B.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greengross, B.
Grenfell, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Hart of Chilton, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henig, B.
Henley, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollick, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Joffe, L.
Jones, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Laidlaw, L.
Laird, L.
Laming, L.
Layard, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L. [Teller]
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lyell, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B. [Teller]
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Michie of Gallanach, B.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montrose, D.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Morgan of Drefelin, B.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Moser, L.
Murphy, B.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
Northbrook, L.
Northover, B.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
Onslow, E.
Orme, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Parekh, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Peel, E.
Pendry, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Prashar, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Quirk, L.
Radice, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Roberts of Llandudno, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rooker, L.
Rosser, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St John of Fawsley, L.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Selborne, E.
Sheldon, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Snape, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tordoff, L.
Triesman, L.
Truscott, L.
Tunnicliffe, L.
Turnberg, L.
Wall of New Barnet, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Weatherill, L.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.


NOT-CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Astor, V.
Attlee, E.
Bell, L.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burnham, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Chadlington, L.
Chan, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Deedes, L.
Denham, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elles, B.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falkland, V.
Feldman, L.
Fookes, B.
Glentoran, L.
Goschen, V. [Teller]
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hooson, L.
Howard of Rising, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jopling, L.
Jordan, L.
Kalms, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Luke, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Morgan, L.
Morris of Bolton, B.
Moynihan, L.
Naseby, L.
O'Cathain, B.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Parkinson, L.
Patten, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Rawlings, B.
Reay, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renton, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Seccombe, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Tebbit, L.
Thatcher, B.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Trenchard, V.
Ullswater, V.
Vinson, L. [Teller]
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walmsley, B.
Wilcox, B.


Resolved in the affirmative, and amendment agreed to accordingly.


 
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