House of Lords Journal 236 (Session 2002-03)


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Wednesday 27 November 2002

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Arran, E.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, L.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barber of Tewkesbury, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Best, L.
Bhatia, L.
Biffen, L.
Billingham, B.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Boothroyd, B.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Brennan, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brigstocke, B.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler of Brockwell, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.

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Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Campbell-Savours, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carrington, L.
Carter, L.
Chan, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Windermere, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Corbett of Castle Vale, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkender, B.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Fearn, L.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Fowler, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Fyfe of Fairfield, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Gavron, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Gloucester, Bp.
Golding, B.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greaves, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Grocott, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hannay of Chiswick, L.
Hanningfield, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Henley, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Higgins, L.
Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howarth of Breckland, B.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howe of Idlicote, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Tanworth, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Imbert, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Joffe, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kilclooney, L.
Kimball, L.
King of Bridgwater, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kirkham, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laird, L.
Laming, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lane, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Levene of Portsoken, L.
Lindsay, E.
Lipsey, L.
Liverpool, E.
Livsey of Talgarth, L.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McFarlane of Llandaff, B.
MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Maclennan of Rogart, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
May of Oxford, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mitchell, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Morgan, L.
Morgan of Huyton, B.
Morris of Aberavon, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Moser, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.

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Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
Noakes, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northover, B.
Norton of Louth, L.
Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
O’Cathain, B.
O’Neill of Bengarve, B.
Onslow, E.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Orme, L.
Owen, L.
Oxburgh, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Parekh, L.
Patel, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pendry, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Portsmouth, Bp.
Prashar, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson of Duntisbourne, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rogan, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rooker, L.
Roper, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Russell, E.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saatchi, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selsdon, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Sheldon, L.
Shutt of Greetland, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Sutherland of Houndwood, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Temple-Morris, L.
Tenby, V.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Swynnerton, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Truro, Bp.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Waddington, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Weatherill, L.
Whitaker, B.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Windlesham, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.

1.Dukedom of Bedford in the Peerage of England—The Petition of Henry Robin Ian Russell claiming to have succeeded to the Dukedom of Bedford in the Peerage of England and praying that the Clerk of the Parliaments might be directed to enter the petitioner as Duke of Bedford on his register of hereditary peers maintained under Standing Order 10(5) was presented and was referred to the Lord Chancellor to consider and report upon to the House pursuant to Standing Order 11.

Judicial Business

2.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Amin (FC) (Appellant) (England)—The appeal of Imtiaz Amin was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 8th January next.
3.Olatawura (Petitioner) v. Abiloye (Respondent)—The petition of Olakunle Olagoke Olatawura praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 15th August).

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4.McNicol (Petitioner) v. Balfour Beatty Rail Maintenance Limited (Respondents)—The petition of Daniel McNicol praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 23rd August).
5.In re A (a child)—The petition of the mother praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 8th November).
6.Lawal (Petitioner) v. Northern Spirit Limited and others (Respondents)—The petition of Adekunle Adejare Lawal praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.
7.In re McParland (AP) (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—The petition of Joseph McParland praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

Papers

8.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Budget—Pre–Budget Report 2002: Steering a steady course: Delivering stability, enterprise and fairness in an uncertain world;
 (5664)
2.Finance—Treasury Minutes on the 43rd, 45th, 46th, 53rd, 55th, 58th, 60th, 61st and 62nd Reports, Session 2001–02, from the Committee of Public Accounts;
 (5676)
3.Regeneration—Government Response to the House of Commons Transport, Local Government and the Regions Select Committee Report: The Need for a New European Regeneration Framework;
 (5688)
4.Commercial Debts—Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and Cameroon concerning Certain Commercial Debts;
 (5695)
5.Departmental Performance—Autumn Performance Report 2002 of the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs.
 (5698)
9.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Draft Justice (Northern Ireland) Act 2002 (Amendment of section 46(1)) Order 2002, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 2000, together with an Explanatory Memorandum.

10.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Borough of Blackburn with Darwen and the City of Peterborough (Changes to Years of Elections) Order 2002, laid under the Local Government Act 2000;
 (2876)
2.Employment Rights (Increase of Limits) (No. 2) Order 2002, laid under the Employment Relations Act 1999;
 (2927)
3.European Economic Interest Grouping (Fees) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2002, laid under the Finance Act 1973;
 (2928)
4.Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 5) Regulations 2002, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;
 (2929)
5.National Health Service Act 1977 and National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990 (Amendment) Amendment Regulations 2002, laid under the European Communities Act 1972.
 (2932)
11.Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

Treasury Minute directing the application of certain amounts as Appropriations in Aid of the Estimates for 2002–03, laid under the Government Resources and Accounts Act 2000.

Select Committee Report

12.Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform—The following report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to be printed:

First Report, on the following bills:

 Licensing Bill [HL];
 Arms Control and Disarmament (Inspections) Bill [HL];

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 High Hedges Bill [HL];
 Waste and Emissions Trading Bill [HL];
 European Union (Implications of Withdrawal) Bill [HL];

and requesting evidence on the proposal for the Draft Regulatory Reform (Housing Management Agreements) Order 2003. (HL Paper 9)

Private Business

13.Petitions for private bills—The following petitions for private bills were deposited on or before 27th November 2002 pursuant to Standing Order:
Name of PetitionBy whom deposited
Hereford MarketsBircham Dyson Bell
Nottingham City CouncilBircham Dyson Bell
Transas GroupSharpe Pritchard

Public Business

14.Patients’ Protection Bill [HL]—A bill to prohibit the withdrawal or withholding of sustenance with the intention of causing the death of a patient was presented by the Baroness Knight of Collingtree, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 9)
15.Voting Age (Reduction to 16) Bill [HL]—A bill to reduce to 16 the voting age in parliamentary and other elections was presented by the Lord Lucas, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 10)
16.House of Lords Reform—A message was received from the Commons that they concur with the message of this House of 14th November relating to House of Lords Reform and have made the following Order:

That, in accordance with the Resolution of the House of 19th June in the last Session of Parliament, a Select Committee of twelve Members be appointed to join with a Committee to be appointed by the Lords, as the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform, with the same terms of reference, powers and membership as in the last session and that the proceedings of the Joint Committee on House of Lords Reform in the last session of Parliament be referred to the Committee.

17.University finance (5-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Baker of Dorking that there be laid before the House papers relating to the financial situation of British universities; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
18.Wild Mammals (Protection) (Amendment) Bill [HL]—The bill was withdrawn.
19. Wild Mammals (Protection) (Amendment) (No. 2) Bill [HL] —A bill to amend the Wild Mammals (Protection) Act 1996 was presented by the Lord Donoughue, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 11)

The House was adjourned at twenty-nine minutes past nine o’clock
till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.