House of Lords Journal 233 (Session 1999-00)


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Monday 23 October 2000

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Aldington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Andrews, B.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Arran, E.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bernstein of Craigweil, L.
Biffen, L.
Billingham, B.
Blackstone, B.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blood, B.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Brennan, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.

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Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chalfont, L.
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Cohen of Pimlico, B.
Colwyn, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Cuckney, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dacre of Glanton, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elder, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Emerton, B.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gibson, L.
Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Peckham, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Healey, L.
Henley, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Chesterton, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hylton, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laird, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lang of Monkton , L.
Layard, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lincoln, Bp.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Luce, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McConnell, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moran, L.
Morgan, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Neill of Bladen, L.
Newby, L.
Noakes, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northover, B.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Orme, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.

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Plumb, L.
Prashar, B.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson of Calow, B.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogan, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Roper, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Sandberg, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scott of Needham Market, B.
Seccombe, B.
Serota, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stern, B.
Stewartby, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tenby, V.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tomlinson, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turnberg, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walmsley, B.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Whitaker, B.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Winston, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lincoln.

Judicial Business

1.Attorney General’s Reference No. 3 of 1999—Upon Report from the Appellate Committee it was ordered that, pursuant to section 35 of the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 and the Criminal Appeal (Reference of Points of Law) Rules 1973, no mention shall be made in any publication or broadcast of the proper name of any person or place which is likely to lead to the identification of the respondent until further order.
2.Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) v. Rehman (Appellant) (Second Appeal) (England)—The appeal of Shafiq Ur Rehman was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 4th December next (lodged 16th August).
3.National Westminster Bank plc (Respondents) v. Amin (executrix of the estate of Mohammed Amin) and another (A.P.) (Appellant)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee (lodged 20th October).

Papers

4.Companion to the Standing Orders—The 18th edition of the Companion to the Standing Orders and Guide to the Proceedings of the House of Lords was laid on the Table by the Clerk of the Parliaments.
5.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Millennium—Government Response to the 8th Report of the House of Commons Culture, Media and Sport Committee on Marking the Millennium in the United Kingdom;
 (4899)
2.Refugees—Minute dated 23rd October 2000 concerning the gifting of funds to the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region Government for the Vietnamese Refugee Programme;
 (—)
3.Police—Report for 1999–2000 of Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Constabulary for Scotland;
 (4881)
4.Education—Special Review by the School Teachers’ Review Body of the threshold standards for classroom teachers and related matters;
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5.Sport—Consolidated Accounts for 1999–2000 of the English Sports Council and the English Sports Council Group.
 (—)
6.Affirmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Draft Flags Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2000;
2.Draft Companies Act 1985 (Electronic Communications) Order 2000.
7.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Orders for the Delivery of Documents (Procedure) Regulations 2000, laid under the Taxes Management Act 1970;
 (2875)
2.Social Fund Winter Fuel Payment (Amendment) Regulations 2000, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;
 (2864)
3.Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Bedfordshire) (Borough of Bedford) Order 2000, laid under the Road Traffic Act 1991;

(2871)

4.Statute made by Exeter College, Oxford on 13th April 2000, laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923;
 (—)
5.Judicial Committee (Chiropractors Rules) Order 2000, laid under the Chiropractors Act 1994;
 (2822)
6.European Communities (Designation) (No. 3) Order 2000, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;
 (2812)
7.National Health Service (Travelling Expenses and Remission of Charges) Amendment (No. 3) Regulations 2000, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;
 (2870)
8. (i)Public Telecommunications System Designation (Formus Communications–UK Ltd) Order 2000;(2860)
(ii)Public Telecommunications System Designation (Redstone Network Services Limited) Order 2000;(2861)
(iii)Public Telecommunications System Designation (Louis Dreyfus Communications SA) Order 2000;(2862)
(iv)Public Telecommunications System Designation (CommsTec Limited) Order 2000;(2863)
 laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984.
8.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1. (i)Report for 2000 of the British Tourist Authority;
(ii)Statement by the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport concerning the appointment of Peter Carnell to the Board of the English Tourism Council;
 laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;
2.Report and Accounts for 1999–2000 of the Rail Passengers Council, laid under the Railways Act 1993;
3.Financial Statements for 1999 of Severn River Crossing PLC, laid under the Severn Bridges Act 1992;
4.Statement of Guarantee by the Treasury in respect of temporary borrowing by the Commission for the New Towns from Barclays Bank plc, laid under the New Towns Act 1981;
5.Report and Accounts for 1999–2000 of the Sea Fish Industry Authority, laid under the Fisheries Act 1981;
6.Report and Accounts for 1998–1999 of the Horticultural Development Council, laid under the Industrial Organisation and Development Act 1947;
7.Report by the Northern Ireland Assembly on Draft Regulations proposed under Article 3 of the Flags (Northern Ireland) Order 2000, laid under that order;
8.Report for 1999–2000 of British Shipbuilders, laid under the Aircraft and Shipbuilding Act 1977;
9.Report for 1998–99 of the Welsh National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and Health Visitors, laid under the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1979;
10.Licences granted by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry to—
(i)Louis Dreyfus Communications SA;
(ii)CommsTec Limited;

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(iii)Redstone Network Services Limited;
(iv)Formus Communications–UK Ltd;
 laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984.

Public Business

9.Police (Northern Ireland) Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed.
10.Speaker of the House of Commons—Mr Michael Martin, Speaker-Elect, was presented and approved by the Lords Commissioners (by command of Her Majesty) under a Commission issued in that behalf.
11.Police (Northern Ireland) Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed after amendment 171.

The House was adjourned at twenty minutes past midnight
in the morning of Tuesday 24th October
till later the same day, half-past two o’clock in the afternoon.