House of Lords Journal 233 (Session 1999-00)


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Tuesday 2 May 2000

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:


Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Arran, E.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biffen, L.
Blackburn, Bp.
Blackstone, B.
Blackwell, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradford, Bp.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L.
Chadlington, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clyde, L.
Cockfield, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Crickhowell, L.
Cuckney, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dearing, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Durham, Bp.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Flowers, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Gavron, L.
Geddes, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.

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Kimball, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laird, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lindsay, E.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Maddock, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Neill of Bladen, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Norfolk, D.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
Onslow, E.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renton, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Ryder of Warsaw, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Selsdon, L.
Serota, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Steyn, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Tanlaw, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Tenby, V.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakefield, Bp.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Walker of Worcester, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Winston, L.
Young, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

1.Lord Berkeley (Lord Gueterbock)—Anthony Fitzhardinge Lord Berkeley, having been created Baron Gueterbock, of Cranford in the London Borough of Hillingdon, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 18th April 2000 (see appendix 1), took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
2.Viscount Chandos (Lord Lyttelton of Aldershot)—Thomas Orlando Viscount Chandos, having been created Baron Lyttelton of Aldershot, of Aldershot in the County of Hampshire, for life by Letters Patent dated 6 o’clock in the forenoon of 19th April 2000 (see appendix 2), made and subscribed the solemn affirmation pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

3.Turner (Respondent) v. Grovit and others (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of Felix Fareed Ismail Grovit, Harada Limited and Changepoint SA was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 13th June next.

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4.Highland and Universal Properties Limited (Respondents) v. Safeway Properties Limited (Appellants) (Scotland)—The appeal of Safeway Properties Limited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 13th June next.
5.Sinochem International Oil (London) Co Limited (Petitioner) v. Mobil Sales and Supply Corporation (Respondents) and others—The petition of Sinochem International Oil (London) Co Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 16th March).
6.Regina v. Braintree District Council (Petitioners) ex parte Halls (Respondent)—The petition of Braintree District Council praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 29th March).
7.Twinn (Petitioner) v. Society of Lloyd’s (Respondents) (First Petition)—The petition of Gail Shirley Anne Twinn praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 20th April).
8.Twinn (Petitioner) v. Society of Lloyds (Respondents) (Second Petition)—The petition of Geoffrey George Twinn praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 20th April).
9.Kahn and another (Petitioners) v. Commissioners of Inland Revenue (Respondents)—The petition of Neville Barry Kahn and Nigel John Vooght praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
10.Banner Homes Group plc (Respondents) v. Luff Developments Limited and others (Petitioners)—The petition of Luff Developments Limited and Stowhelm Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
11.Habib Bank Limited (Petitioners) v. Jaffer and another (Respondents)—The petition of Habib Bank Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
12.Regina v. Broadcasting Standards Commission (Respondents) ex parte British Broadcasting Corporation (Petitioners)—The petition of the British Broadcasting Corporation praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
13.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Norgren (Petitioner)—The petition of Christian Norgren praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee (lodged 20th April).
14.Pritchard (Petitioner) v. Ministry of Defence (Respondents)—The petition of Joan Bell Pritchard praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
15.Designers Guild Limited (Appellants) v. Russell Williams (Textiles) Limited (trading as Washington DC) (Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.
16.Equitable Life Assurance Society (Appellants) v. Hyman (Respondent)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 8th May next (the agents for the respondent consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed (lodged 26th April).

Papers

17.Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her Majesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Crime—Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and Denmark extending the European Convention on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters to the Isle of Man; (26th April)
 (4689)
2.Civil Aviation—Protocol on the Authentic Quadrilingual Text of the Convention on International Civil Aviation (Chicago) 1944; (26th April)
 (4692)
3.Ukraine—Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and Ukraine concerning the bilateral treaties which were in force between the United Kingdom and the USSR to which Ukraine has succeeded; (27th April)
 (4694)
4.Armenia—Partnership and Co-operation Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States, of the one part, and Armenia, of the other part; (27th April)
 (4697)
5.Transport—Amendments to Articles 5, 10 and Annex 1 of the Agreement on the International Carriage of Perishable Foodstuffs and on the Special Equipment to be used for such Carriage (ATP) 1970; (28th April)
 (4716)
6.Treaty Series—Index to Treaty Series 1999; (28th April)
 (4690)

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7.Contingent Liability—Minutes concerning the indemnity for members of the independent inquiry into issues arising from the:
(i)case of Harold Shipman; (2nd May)(—)
(ii)retention of organs at the Royal Liverpool Children’s Hospital (Alder Hey). (2nd May)(—)
18.Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 70)—The following instruments, having been laid before the House on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.GLA Roads Designation Order 2000, laid under the Highways Act 1980; (26th April)

(1117)

2.Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 5) Regulations 2000, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992; (26th April)
 (1149)
3.Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 5) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2000, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits (Northern Ireland) Act 1992; (26th April)
 (1150)
4.Local Government Pension Scheme (Greater London Authority etc.) Regulations 2000, laid under the Superannuation Act 1972. (27th April)
 (1164)
19.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.London Development Agency (Transitional Provisions) Order 2000, laid under the Greater London Authority Act 1999;
 (1174)
2.Draft Government Stock (Amendment) Regulations 2000, laid under the Finance Act 1942;
 (—)
3.Statutes made by the University of Oxford on:
(i)4th November 1999—(—)
(ii)18th November 1999—(—)
(iii)1st December 1999—(—)
 laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923.
20.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Lottery Strategic Plan of the Film Council, laid under the National Lottery Act 1998;
2.Report for 1998–99 of the Ancient Monuments Board for Scotland, laid under the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979;
3.Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the New Opportunities Fund, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993.

Select Committee Report

21.Science and Technology—It was ordered that the evidence taken by Sub-Committee I (Complementary and Alternative Medicine) on 29th February be printed. (HL Paper 48-v)

Public Business

22.European Union Committee—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Lord Grenfell be appointed a member of the Select Committee; the motion was agreed to.
23.Postal Services Bill—It was moved by the Lord Sainsbury of Turville that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
24.Tourism and the Euro—The Lord Harrison asked Her Majesty’s Government whether the introduction of the Euro will be good for the British tourism industry, regardless of whether the United Kingdom adopts the Euro; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey.

The House was adjourned at four minutes past eight o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.


APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Anthony

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Fitzhardinge Baron Berkeley Officer of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Gueterbock of Cranford in Our London Borough of Hillingdon

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Gueterbock to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the eighteenth day of April in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL


APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Cousin Thomas Orlando Viscount Chandos to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Lyttelton of Aldershot in Our County of Hampshire

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Lyttelton of Aldershot to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster at six o’clock in the forenoon of the nineteenth day of April in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL