House of Lords Journal 233 (Session 1999-00)

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Wednesday 5 April 2000

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Arran, E.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Bagri, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Biffen, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blood, B.
Boardman, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Bristol, Bp.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterfield, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement- Jones, L.
Clinton- Davis, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Croham, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Dearing, L.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Freyberg, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Gavron, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenarthur, L.

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Glentoran, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goschen, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howe of Aberavon, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Joffe, L.
Jopling, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kimball, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laird, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levene of Port Soken, L.
Levy, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Neill of Bladen, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton of Louth, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Oxford, Bp.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pike, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plumb, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Portsmouth, Bp.
Prashar, B.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson of Calow, B.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. Albans, Bp.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Salisbury, Bp.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Sharman, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walpole, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.

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Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Whaddon, L.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Winston, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Salisbury.

Judicial Business

1.Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 36th Report—

Bullerwell (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Darlington Insulation Company Limited (Respondents)—That the respondents’ costs be paid out of the Legal Aid Fund in accordance with section 18 of the Legal Aid Act 1988, such order to be suspended until 3rd May next to enable the Legal Aid Board to object if they wish.


2.Instrument withdrawn—The following instrument, laid before the House on 27th March, was withdrawn:

Draft National Savings Bank (Investment Deposits) (Limits) (Amendment) Order 2000.

3.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Criminal Injuries—Report for 1998–99 of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel;
2.Investment Protection—Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom and Pakistan for the Promotion and Protection of Investments;
3.Headquarters Agreement—Exchange of Notes amending the Headquarters Agreement between the United Kingdom and the International Lead and Zinc Study Group;
4.Finance—Report for 2000 of the Department for International Development: Government Expenditure Plans 2000–2001 to 2001–2002.
4.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Draft National Savings Bank (Investment Deposits) (Limits) (Amendment) Order 2000, laid under the National Savings Bank Act 1971;
2.Tetrachloroethylene in Olive Oil (Revocation) Regulations 2000, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990;
3.Gaming Clubs (Hours and Charges) (Amendment) Regulations 2000, laid under the Gaming Act 1968.
5.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Report for 1999 of the Independent Commission for Police Complaints in Northern Ireland, laid under the Police (Northern Ireland) Order 1987;
2.Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on loans proposed to be raised by—
(i)Royal Devon and Exeter Healthcare National Health Service Trust;
(ii)University Hospitals of Leicester National Health Service Trust;
(iii)Dewsbury Healthcare National Health Service Trust;
(iv)Cornwall Healthcare National Health Service Trust;
(v)Nottingham City Hospital National Health Service Trust;
(vi)Havering Hospitals National Health Service Trust;
(vii)Pinderfields and Pontefract Hospitals National Health Service Trust;
(viii)Newcastle Upon Tyne Hospitals National Health Service Trust;
(ix)Oxford Radcliffe Hospitals National Health Service Trust;
 laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990;
3.Statement of Guarantee given by the Treasury in respect of temporary borrowing by the British Waterways Board, laid under the Transport Act 1962.

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Public Business

6.Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill—A bill to amend the law relating to child support; to amend the law relating to occupational and personal pensions and war pensions; to amend the law relating to social security benefits and social security administration; to amend the law relating to national insurance contributions; to amend Part III of the Family Law Reform Act 1969 and Part III of the Family Law Act 1986; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 54)
7.Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 54–EN)
8.Road works (2-hour debate)—It was moved by the Lord Peyton of Yeovil that there be laid before the House papers relating to the number of statutory undertakers and others with powers to dig holes in the road; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
9.Tourism and the rural economy (3½-hour debate)—It was moved by the Earl Peel that there be laid before the House papers relating to the place of tourism in the future development of the rural economy; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
10.Central Africa—The Earl of Sandwich asked Her Majesty’s Government what response they are making to the continuing conflict in central Africa; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal.

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes before ten o’clock
till tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,
three o’clock for public business.