House of Lords Journal 233 (Session 1999-00)


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Tuesday 21 March 2000

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Bagri, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barber, L.
Barnett, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Bellwin, L.
Belstead, L.

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Biffen, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Bramall, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler of Brockwell, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Canterbury, Abp.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Carter, L.
Chalfont, L.
Christopher , L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Croham, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elder, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Fanshawe of Richmond, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Flowers, L.
Fookes, B.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greengross, B.
Greenway, L.
Hanham, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of High Cross, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Haslam, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Joffe, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kimball, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laird, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lindsay, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.

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Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
Norfolk, D.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patel of Blackburn, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prashar, B.
Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rogan, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saatchi, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selsdon, L.
Serota, B.
Sharman, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Leigh, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Stern, B.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Vinson, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Walker of Worcester, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Weatherill, L.
Whaddon, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitaker, B.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Windlesham, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwark.

1.Royal Assent—The Lord Chancellor notified the Queen’s Assent to the following Act:

Consolidated Fund Act              c. 3

Judicial Business

2.Victor Chandler International (Petitioners) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise and others (Respondents)—The petition of Victor Chandler International praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
3.McDonald’s Corporation and others (Respondents) v. Steel and another (Petitioners)—The petition of Helen Marie Steel and David Morris praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.
4.Regina v. Sawoniuk (Petitioner)—The petition of Anthony Sawoniuk, praying for an extension of time within which the petition may be lodged and for leave to appeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
5.Appeal Committee—The 36th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made—

FNCB Limited (formerly First National Bank plc) (Respondents) v. Barnet Devanney (Harrow) Limited (formerly Barnet Devanney & Co Limited) (Petitioners)—That leave to

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appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Skandia Property (UK) Limited and others (Petitioners) v. Thames Water Utilities Limited (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Governing Body of Clifton Middle School and others (Respondents) v. Askew (Petitioner)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Palmer (Respondent) v. Maloney and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Lough Neagh Exploration Limited (Petitioners) v. Morrice and others (Respondents) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Bullerwell (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Darlington Insulation Company Limited (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

McDonald’s Corporation and others (Respondents) v. Steel and another (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Papers

6.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Defence—Ministry of Defence Departmental Minute dated 21 March 2000 concerning the gifting of Challenger 1 Main Battle Tanks to Jordan;
 (—)
2.Finance—
(i)Financial Statement and Budget Report, March 2000;(—)
(ii)Debt Management Report for 2000–01.(—)
7.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Sea Fishing (Enforcement of Community Quota and Third Country Fishing Measures) Order 2000, laid under the Fisheries Act 1981;
 (827)
2.Greater London Authority Election (Early Voting) Order 2000, laid under the Greater London Authority Act 1999;
 (826)
3.Tax Credits Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2000, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;
 (795)
4.Tax Credits Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2000, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits (Northern Ireland) Act 1992;
 (796)
5.Marketing Authorisations for Veterinary Medicinal Products Amendment Regulations 2000, laid under the European Communities Act 1972.
 (776)
8.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Change 3 to the Regulations for the Royal Naval Reserve (BR60), laid under the Reserve Forces Act 1996;
2.Regulations for the Royal Air Force Reserve and the Royal Auxiliary Air Force, laid under the Air Force (Constitution) Act 1917;
3.Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on loans proposed to be raised by:
(i)West Dorset General Hospitals National Health Service Trust;
(ii)Exeter and District Community Health Service National Health Service Trust;
(iii)Hull and East Riding Community Health National Health Service Trust;
(iv)Norfolk Mental Health Care National Health Service Trust;

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(v)Queens Medical Centre, Nottingham University Hospital National Health Service Trust;
(vi)United Bristol Healthcare National Health Service Trust;
(vii)Wakefield and Pontefract Community Health National Health Service Trust;
 laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990.

Public Business

9.Race Relations (Religious Discrimination) Bill [HL] —A bill to extend the Race Relations Act 1976 to religious discrimination was presented by the Lord Ahmed, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 50)
10.Consolidation Bills—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that, pursuant to Standing Order 51, the following Lords be appointed to join with a Committee of the Commons as the Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills:
L. Campbell of Alloway
L. Christopher
L. Clyde
V. Colville of Culross
E. Dundee
B. Fookes
L. Hobhouse of Woodborough
L. Janner of Braunstone
B. Mallalieu
L. Phillips of Sudbury
L. Razzall
L. Strabolgi;

That the Committee have the power to agree with the Committee of the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman;

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time be printed and, if the Committee think fit, be delivered out; and

That a message be sent to the Commons to propose that the Joint Committee do meet on Tuesday 28th March at a quarter-past four o’clock;

the motion was agreed to.

11.Powers of Criminal Courts (Sentencing) Bill [HL]—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that the bill be now read a second time; the motion was agreed to and the bill was referred to the Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills.
12.Financial Services and Markets Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the question that a clause stand part of the bill was negatived; the House was resumed.
13.Agriculture: IACS payments—The Earl of Caithness asked Her Majesty’s Government what effect the new rules on Integrated Administration and Control System (IACS) payments will have on farmers and wildlife; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Hayman.
14.Financial Services and Markets Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed after clause 128 stood part.

The House was adjourned at five minutes before ten o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.