House of Lords Journal 233 (Session 1999-00)


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Thursday 16 March 2000

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St Johns, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Bagri, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Belstead, L.
Biffen, L.
Birt, L.
Blackwell, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bramall, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Canterbury, Abp.
Carnarvon, E.

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Carr of Hadley, L.
Carter, L.
Chalfont, L.
Christopher, L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clyde, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Eatwell, L.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elder, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elles, B.
Elton, L.
Emerton, B.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Flowers, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gibson, L.
Gilbert, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greenway, L.
Hambro, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Healey, L.
Henley, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.
Hoffmann, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollick, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Joffe, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kimball, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Laird, L.
Laming, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levy, L.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Dormer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Millett, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Newby, L.
Nicholls of Birkenhead, L.
Nicol, B.
Nolan, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Orme, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peston, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plumb, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Powell of Bayswater, L.
Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Renton, L.

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Richard, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Russell, E.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saatchi, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Sandberg, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Sharman, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Steyn, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stokes, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tombs, L.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whitaker, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Winston, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

Judicial Business

1.Lancashire County Council and another (Respondents) v. Barlow (A.P.) and another (A.P.) (Appellants) and one other action—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 27th July 1999 be affirmed and the appeal dismissed; that there be no order as to costs save for legal aid taxation; and that the costs of the appellants and second respondent in this House be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.
2.W 1–6 (A.P.) (Appellants) v. Essex County Council and another (Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 2nd April 1998 be varied, so that, in Order 1, the word “Third” is substituted for the word “First” and the words “and that the appeal of the First and Second Plaintiffs be allowed” are inserted at the end, and that Orders 6 and 8 be set aside save as to Legal Aid taxation; that paragraph 1 of the Order of Mr Justice Hooper of 7th July 1997 be set aside; that the respondents do pay to the appellants their costs before Mr Justice Hooper, in the Court of Appeal and before this House, the amount of such last-mentioned costs to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties; and that the costs of the appellants in this House be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.
3.In re W (a minor) (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition of W (by her Guardian ad litem) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.
The House was resumed.

Papers

4.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Draft Equality (Disability, etc.) (Northern Ireland) Order 2000.

5.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Occupational Pension Schemes (Contracting-out) (Payment and Recovery of Remaining Balances) Regulations 2000, laid under the Pension Schemes Act 1993;
 (750)
2.Personal and Occupational Pension Schemes (Incentive Payments) Amendment Regulations 2000, laid under the Social Security Act 1986;
 (749)
3. (i)Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 4) Regulations 2000—(761)

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(ii)Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating) Consequential Amendment Regulations 2000—(760)
(iii)Workmen’s Compensation (Supplementation) (Amendment) Scheme 2000—(697)
 laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992;
4. (i)Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating) Consequential Amendment (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2000—(757)
(ii)Social Security (Contributions) (Amendment No. 4) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2000—(758)
 laid under the Social Security Administration (Northern Ireland) Act 1992;
5.European Communities (Designation) Order 2000, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;
 (738)
6.Airports (Designation) (Removal and Disposal of Vehicles) (Amendment) Order 2000, laid under the Airports Act 1986.
 (707)
6.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Account for 1998–99 of the North East Lincolnshire Education Action Zone, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;
2.Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Pensions Increase) Order 2000, laid under the Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions Act 1865.
 (—)
7.Instrument coming into operation before being laid—The Lord Chancellor acquainted the House that he had received, under the proviso to section 4(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946, notification that the following instrument had come into operation before being laid before Parliament, with an explanation thereof; the notification and explanation were ordered to lie on the Table:

Education (Budget Statements) (England) Regulations 2000.

(576)

Public Business

8.Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Bill—A bill to apply certain sums out of the Consolidated Fund to the service of the years ending on 31st March 1999, 2000 and 2001 was brought from the Commons endorsed with the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is a money bill and read a first time.
9.Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill—A bill to establish an Electoral Commission; to make provision about the registration and finances of political parties; to make provision about donations and expenditure for political purposes; to make provision about election and referendum campaigns and the conduct of referendums; to make provision about election petitions and other legal proceedings in connection with elections; to reduce the qualifying periods set out in sections 1 and 3 of the Representation of the People Act 1985; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 48)
10.Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Bill—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 48–EN)
11.Financial Services and Markets Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.
12.Lone parents—The Baroness Ashton of Upholland asked Her Majesty’s Government what has been the impact of their policies since May 1997 on the prospects for lone parents; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham.
13.Financial Services and Markets Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed after amendment 46.

The House was adjourned at ten minutes before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.