House of Lords Journal 232 (Session 1998-99)


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Monday 1 November 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.
Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Balfour of Inchrye, L.
Barker, B.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bellwin, L.
Belstead, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradford, Bp.
Bragg, L.
Brentford, V.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Buccleuch and Queensberry, D.
Buckinghamshire, E.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carrick, E.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Cathcart, E.
Chadlington, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chandos, V.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chorley, L.

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Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clwyd, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Eatwell, L.
Ebury, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Effingham, E.
Elder, L.
Elibank, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erne, E.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Fellowes, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glanusk, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Greenwood, V.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hankey, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Healey, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollick, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hothfield, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Tanworth, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inchcape, E.
Inchyra, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Jeger, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knollys, V.
Laird, L.
Laming, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layton, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McNair, L.
Macpherson of Drumochter, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.

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Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mills, V.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nelson, E.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norrie, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northfield, L.
Norton, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Orme, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plumb, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Powis, E.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Ranfurly, E.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Runciman of Doxford, V.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Sandberg, L.
Sandford, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Didgemere, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Smith of Leigh, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stafford, L.
Stair, E.
Stallard, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Swansea, L.
Swaythling, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Torrington, V.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Trumpington, B.
Tugendhat, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Weatherill, L.
Weir, V.
Westbury, L.
Whaddon, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Wise, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Young, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bradford.

1.Baroness Massey of Darwen—Doreen Elizabeth Massey, having been created Baroness Massey of Darwen, of Darwen in the County of Lancashire, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 26th July 1999 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Baroness Jay of Paddington and the Baroness Castle of Blackburn, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and made and subscribed the solemn affirmation pursuant to statute.

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2.Lord Smith of Leigh—Peter Richard Charles Smith Esquire, having been created Baron Smith of Leigh, of Wigan in the County of Greater Manchester, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 5th August 1999 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Lord Donoughue and the Lord Evans of Parkside, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and made and subscribed the solemn affirmation pursuant to statute.
3.Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Friday 5th November.

Judicial Business

4.Regina v. Henry (Petitioner)—The petition of Wayne Henry praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
5.In re Burke (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.
6.Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 55th Report—

MSC Mediterranean Shipping Company SA (Respondents) v. Owners of the Ship “Tychy” (Petitioners)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Papers

7.Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

Sport—Lottery Fund Report for 1998–99 of sportscotland .

8.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Draft Maximum Number of Judges Order 1999.

9.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Law Commission Reports on item 1 of the Seventh Programme of Law Reform: Damages:
(i)Damages for Personal Injury: Medical, Nursing and other expenses; Collateral Benefits—
(ii)Claims for Wrongful Death—
 laid under the Law Commissions Act 1965;
2.Report for 1998–99 of the National Endowment for Science, Technology and the Arts, laid under the National Lottery Act 1998;
3.Report for 1998–99 of the New Opportunities Fund, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993;
4.Account for 1998–99 of the British Museum, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992;
5.Account for 1998–99 of the National Museums & Galleries on Merseyside, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Merseyside Museums and Galleries Order 1986.

Private Business

10.Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [HL]—A message was brought from the Commons, that they have made the following orders:

That the Promoters of the Baxi Partnership Limited Trusts Bill [Lords] shall have leave to suspend proceedings thereon in order to proceed with the Bill, if they think fit, in the next Session of Parliament, provided that the Agents for the Bill give notice to the Clerks in the Private Bill Office not later than the day before the close of the present Session of their intention to suspend further proceedings and that all Fees due on the Bill up to that date be paid;

That if the Bill is brought from the Lords in the next Session, the Agents for the Bill shall deposit in the Private Bill Office a declaration signed by them, stating that the Bill is the same, in every respect, as the Bill which was brought from the Lords in the present Session;

That as soon as a certificate by one of the Clerks in the Private Bill Office that such a declaration has been so deposited has been laid upon the Table of the House, the Bill shall be read the first and second time and committed (and shall be recorded in the Journal of this House as having been so read and committed);

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That, no Petitions against the Bill having been presented within the time limited during the present Session, no Petitioners shall be heard before any committee on the Bill save those who complain of any amendment as proposed in the filled up Bill or of any matter which arises during the progress of the Bill before the committee;

That no further Fees shall be charged in respect of any proceedings on the Bill in respect of which Fees have already been incurred during the present Session;

That these Orders be Standing Orders of the House.

11.Transport Salaried Staffs’ Association (Amendment of Rules) Bill—A message was brought from the Commons that they have considered the Lords message of 28th October and have made the following Orders:

That the Promoters of the Transport Salaried Staffs’ Association (Amendment of Rules) Bill shall have leave to suspend proceedings thereon in order to proceed with the Bill in the next Session of Parliament, provided that the Agents for the Bill give notice to the Clerks in the Private Bill Office not later than the day before the close of the present Session of their intention to suspend further proceedings and that all Fees due on the Bill up to that date be paid;

That on the fifth day on which the House sits in the next Session the Bill shall be presented to the House;

That there shall be deposited with the Bill a declaration signed by the Agents for the Bill, stating that the Bill is the same, in every respect, as the Bill at the last stage of its proceedings in this House in the present Session;

That the Bill shall be laid upon the Table of the House by one of the Clerks in the Private Bill Office on the next meeting of the House after the day on which the Bill has been presented and, when so laid, shall be read the first, second and third time and shall be recorded in the Journal of this House as having been so read;

That no further Fees shall be charged in respect of any proceedings on the Bill in respect of which Fees have already been incurred during the present Session;

That these Orders be Standing Orders of the House.

Public Business

12.Business of the House—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that Standing Order 40 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) be dispensed with on Wednesday next so far as to allow the Food Standards Bill to be taken before the motion standing in the name of the Lord Grenfell; the motion was agreed to.
13.Greater London Authority Bill—The Queen’s consent was signified; the bill was read a third time; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1 to 4); amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; further proceedings after third reading were adjourned.
14.Chinook helicopter ZD576—The Lord Chalfont asked Her Majesty’s Government whether the issues raised in the Computer Weekly report RAF Justice are serious enough to justify re-opening the RAF Board of Inquiry into the crash of Chinook Helicopter ZD576 on the Mull of Kintyre on 2nd June 1994; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean.
15.Greater London Authority Bill—The bill was further considered after third reading; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; a further amendment was agreed to (see division list 5); after debate, the bill was passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.

The House was adjourned at seven minutes before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

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DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

GREATER LONDON AUTHORITY BILL

It was moved by the Lord Tope, in Clause 6, page 4, line 39, after (“If”) insert (“, without the consent of the Assembly,”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............77

Not-Contents.............124

CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Bellwin, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Buckinghamshire, E.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Clement-Jones, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Cox, B.
Cuckney, L.
Davidson, V.
Dholakia, L. [Teller]
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundee, E.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gray, L.
Greenway, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Hogg, B.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lyell, L.
McNair, L.
Macpherson of Drumochter, L.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Morris, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Northbrook, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Renton, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Russell, E.
Sandberg, L.
Sandford, L.
Seccombe, B.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L. [Teller]
Tordoff, L.
Waddington, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Young, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Borrie, L.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Crawley, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glanusk, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howells of St Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kintore, E.
Laming, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.

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Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Marsh, L.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Monkswell, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Northfield, L.
Norton, L.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Serota, B.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Leigh, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thornton, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Warner, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Mostyn, L.

Division No. 2

GREATER LONDON AUTHORITY BILL

It was moved by the Baroness Miller of Hendon, after Clause 7, to insert the new Clause (Vacancy created by member resigning party whip); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............98

Not-Contents.............125

CONTENTS

Abercorn, D.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bellwin, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Cadman, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Clancarty, E.
Clement-Jones, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Cuckney, L.
Davidson, V.
Denham, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Eccles, V.
Eden of Winton, L.
Effingham, E.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gray, L.
Grey, E.
Hamwee, B.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jopling, L.
Kinnoull, E.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Liverpool, E.
Luke, L. [Teller]
McNair, L.
Mancroft, L.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Mersey, V.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mills, V.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Morris, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Oxfuird, V.
Pender, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Redesdale, L.
Renton, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Russell, E.
St. Davids, V.
Sandberg, L.
Sandford, L.
Seccombe, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taverne, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L. [Teller]
Tordoff, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Wigoder, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Wise, L.
Young, B.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Borrie, L.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Crawley, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Elder, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glanusk, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howells of St Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennet, L.
Laming, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Monkswell, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Moyne, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Northfield, L.
Orme, L.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Leigh, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Tenby, V.
Thornton, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Mostyn, L.

Division No. 3

GREATER LONDON AUTHORITY BILL

It was moved by the Lord Dixon-Smith, in Clause 31, page 19, line 32, to leave out subsection (8); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............101

Not-Contents.............131

CONTENTS

Abercorn, D.
Addington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Barker, B.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Boardman, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Buccleuch and Queensberry, D.
Buscombe, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Carlisle, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Clement-Jones, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Courtown, E.
Craig of Radley, L.
Cuckney, L.
Davidson, V.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Denbigh, E.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Eccles, V.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elibank, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Fookes, B.

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Gardner of Parkes, B.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Grey, E.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Higgins, L.
Hogg, B.
Hooper, B.
Howe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jopling, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Liverpool, E.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
McNair, L.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Mersey, V.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mills, V.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Morris, L.
Mountevans, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Pender, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rennard, L
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Russell, E.
St. Davids, V.
Sandberg, L.
Sandford, L.
Seccombe, B. [Teller]
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Taverne, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L. [Teller]
Tordoff, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Wise, L.
Young, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Borrie, L.
Bragg, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Crawley, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Effingham, E.
Elder, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howells of St Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Inchyra, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kintore, E.
Laming, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Massey of Darwen, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Nicol, B.
Northbourne, L.
Northfield, L.
Orme, L.
Patel, L.
Paul, L.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Smith of Leigh, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Tenby, V.
Thornton, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.

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Division No. 4

GREATER LONDON AUTHORITY BILL

It was moved by the Lord Dixon-Smith, in Clause 290, page 181, line 44, at end to insert:

(“(4) Subject to subsection (6) below, any charging scheme established pursuant to this section shall cease to take effect and may not be revived if at any time after 12 months from the commencement of the charging scheme there is not in existence a scheme to improve transport arrangements (including schemes to assist the movement of pedestrians) within Greater London (“an improvement scheme”) in the operation or establishment of which the net proceeds of the charging scheme (within the meaning given it in Schedule 22) are applied.

(5) For the purposes of subsection (4), an improvement scheme shall be regarded as coming into existence on the commencement of works to give effect to the improvement scheme and shall be regarded as terminating when the improved arrangements in question first become available for use by the public.

(6) Subsection (4) above shall not apply at any time if, in the preceding four years ended on the day in question, a ballot of the residents of the area to which the charging scheme applies resulted in a vote in favour of the continuation of the charging scheme by a majority notwithstanding that there might be no improvement scheme in place.”);

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............50

Not-Contents.............133

CONTENTS

Alexander of Tunis, E.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Belstead, L.
Biddulph, L.
Blatch, B.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Chadlington, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Cross, V.
Denham, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundee, E.
Fookes, B.
Geddes, L.
Glentoran, L.
Higgins, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Liverpool, E.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mancroft, L.
Marlesford, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mills, V.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Norrie, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patten, L.
Seccombe, B. [Teller]
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Torrington, V.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wise, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barker, B.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Burlison, L.
Carlile of Berriew, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Crawley, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elder, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Gale, B.
Gilbert, L.
Glanusk, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Harrison, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollick, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.

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Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McNair, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Patel, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thornton, B.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.

Division No. 5

GREATER LONDON AUTHORITY BILL

It was moved by the Lord Whitty, after Clause 398, to insert the new Clause (Appointments by the Secretary of State); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............99

Not-Contents.............36

CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barker, B.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Burlison, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Crawley, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elder, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gale, B.
Gilbert, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grabiner, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrison, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howells of St Davids, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Judd, L.
Kennet, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
McNair, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Monkswell, L.
Nicol, B.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Simon, V.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thornton, B.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Ampthill, L.
Annaly, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Belstead, L.
Biddulph, L.
Blatch, B.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crathorne, L.
Cross, V.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundee, E.
Fookes, B.
Goschen, V.
Henley, L. [Teller]
Higgins, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hood, V.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Lyell, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mancroft, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Palmer, L.
Rowallan, L.
Seccombe, B.
Trenchard, V.
Weir, V.


APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Doreen Elizabeth Massey to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Massey of Darwen of Darwen in Our County of Lancashire

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Massey of Darwen to have and to hold unto her for her life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the twenty-sixth day of July in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL


APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Peter Richard Charles Smith Esquire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Smith of Leigh of Wigan in Our County of Greater Manchester

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Smith of Leigh to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the fifth day of August in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL