House of Lords Journal 232 (Session 1998-99)


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Monday 25 October 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alanbrooke, V.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Alexander of Weedon, L.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Arran, E.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor, V.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Balfour of Inchrye, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bathurst, E.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bell, L.
Belstead, L.
Berkeley, L.
Berners, B.
Biddulph, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Brentford, V.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brigstocke, B.
Bristol, Bp.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Carrick, E.
Carter, L.
Cathcart, E.
Catto, L.
Cavendish of Furness, L.
Chadlington, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chandos, V.
Chesham, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Congleton, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Cranbrook, E.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Crook, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Dartmouth, E.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Freyne, L.
De L’Isle, V.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Derwent, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donegall, M.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dudley, E.
Dundonald, E.
Dunrossil, V.
Eames, L.
Eatwell, L.
Ebury, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elder, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ewing of Kirkford, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Forbes, L.
Forester, L.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.

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Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glanusk, L.
Glasgow, E.
Glenarthur, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gray, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Greenwood, V.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Gretton, L.
Grey, E.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hankey, L.
Hanningfield, L.
Hanworth, V.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of High Cross, L.
Harris of Peckham, L.
Harris of Richmond, B.
Haskel, L.
Hawke, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayter, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howells of St. Davids, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Huntly, M.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kimball, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knollys, V.
Laird, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layton, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Leathers, V.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Limerick, E.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McFarlane of Llandaff, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackintosh of Halifax, V.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Malmesbury, E.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Meath, E.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mills, V.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Morris, L.
Morris of Kenwood, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nickson, L.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norfolk, D.
Norrie, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Northfield, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Orme, L.
Oxburgh, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Penrhyn, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perth, E.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plumb, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Poole, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prior, L.
Puttnam, L.
Pym, L.
Quirk, L.
Radnor, E.

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Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandford, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sandys, L.
Savile, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seaford, L.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selborne, E.
Serota, B.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Shuttleworth, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Stanley of Alderley, L.
Stern, B.
Stevenson of Coddenham, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathcarron, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swaythling, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurso, V.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Trumpington, B.
Tryon, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tweeddale, M.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Warner, L.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wise, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.
Young of Dartington, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.

1.Baroness Harris of Richmond—Angela Felicity Harris, having been created Baroness Harris of Richmond, of Richmond in the County of North Yorkshire, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 6th August 1999 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Baroness Hamwee and the Baroness Maddock, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
2.Baroness Howells of St Davids—Mrs. Rosalind Patricia-Anne Howells, OBE, having been created Baroness Howells of St. Davids, of Charlton in the London Borough of Greenwich, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of the 21st July 1999 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Baroness Amos and the Lord Alli, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
3.Earl of Meath (Lord Chaworth)—John Anthony Earl of Meath (Lord Chaworth) sat first in Parliament after the death of his father, Anthony Windham Normand Earl of Meath, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
4.Lord Catto—Stephen Gordon Lord Catto sat first in Parliament after the death of his father, Thomas Sivewright Lord Catto, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Papers

5.Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

Northern Ireland—Account for 1998–99 of the Public Income and Expenditure of Northern Ireland.

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6.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Draft Chartered Institute of Patent Agents Order 1999.

7.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Major Precepting Authorities (Excessive Budget Requirements—Payments) (England) Regulations 1999, laid under the Local Government Act 1999;
 (2842)
2.Local Government Residuary Body (England) (Winding Up) Order 1999, laid under the Local Government Residuary Body (England) Order 1995;
 (2890)
3. (i)Public Telecommunication System Designation (Swisscom (UK) Limited) Order 1999—(2873)
(ii)Public Telecommunication System Designation (Telia UK Ltd) Order 1999—

(2874)

(iii)Public Telecommunication System Designation (Carrier One Ltd) Order 1999—

(2872)

(iv)Public Telecommunication System Designation (IFC Global (UK) Limited) Order 1999—(2876)
(v)Public Telecommunication System Designation (PLDncompass Limited) Order 1999—(2875)
(vi)Public Telecommunication System Designation (ICO Services Limited) Order 1999—(2871)
(vii)Public Telecommunication System Designation (USA Global Link (UK) Limited) Order 1999—(2870)
(viii)Public Telecommunication System Designation (Tele2 Communications Services Limited) Order 1999—(2869)
(ix)Public Telecommunication System Designation (Kingston Communications (Hull) PLC) Order 1999—(2868)
(x)Public Telecommunication System Designation (MTU Inform Europe Limited) Order 1999—(2867)
(xi)Public Telecommunication System Designation (Farland Services UK Limited) Order 1999—(2866)
(xii)Public Telecommunication System Designation (GC Pan European Crossing UK Limited) Order 1999—(2865)
 laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984;
4.Legal Services Ombudsman (Jurisdiction) (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the Courts and Legal Services Act 1990;
 (2905)
5.National Assembly for Wales (Transfer of Functions) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Government of Wales Act 1998;
 (2787)
6. (i)Transfer of Functions (Scientific Research) Order 1999—(2785)
(ii)Transfer of Functions (Nuclear Installations) Order 1999—(2786)
 laid under the Ministers of the Crown Act 1975;
7.European Communities (Designation) (No. 3) Order 1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;
 (2788)
8. (i)Community Health Councils (Amendment) Regulations 1999—(2906)
(ii)Cornwall Healthcare National Health Service Trust (Transfer of Trust Property) Order 1999—(2909)
 laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;
8.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Financial Statements for 1998 of Severn River Crossing plc, laid under the Severn Bridges Act 1992;
2.Licences granted by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry to:
(i)MTU Inform Europe Limited—
(ii)IFC Global (UK) Ltd—
(iii)Carrier One Ltd—
(iv)GC Pan European Crossing UK Limited—
(v)PLDncompass Limited—
(vi)USA Global Link (UK) Limited—
(vii)Swisscom (UK) Limited—

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(viii)Kingston Communications (Hull) PLC—
(ix)Tele2 Communications Services Limited—
(x)ICO Services Limited—
(xi)Telia UK Limited—
(xii)Farland Services UK Limited—
 laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984;
3.Account for 1997–98 of the Central Council for Education and Training in Social Work, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Health and Social Services and Social Security Adjudications Act 1983;
4.Accounts for 1998–99 of the:
(i)Natural History Museum—
(ii)Imperial War Museum—
 together with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Museums and Galleries Act 1992;
5.Accounts for 1997–98 of the Independent Commission for Police Complaints for Northern Ireland, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Police (Northern Ireland) Order 1987;
6.Account for 1997–98 of the Legal Aid Fund (Northern Ireland), together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981;
7.Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Health and Safety Commission and the Health and Safety Executive, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;
8.Report for 1998–99 of the Natural Environment Research Council, laid under the Science and Technology Act 1965;
9.Statement on behalf of the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport appointing Peter Moore as a member of the English Tourist Board for a period of 3 years beginning on 1st July 1999, together with a notification of the salaries payable to that body, laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;
10.Report and Lottery Fund Awards for 1998–99 of Sport England, laid under the National Lottery etc. Act 1993;
11.Treasury Bills (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the National Debt Act 1889.
 (2907)

Public Business

9.Greater London Authority Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; further consideration on report was adjourned.
10.Mozambique—The Lord Redesdale asked Her Majesty’s Government what steps they are taking to help reconstruction and development in Mozambique; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Amos.
11.Greater London Authority Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 96)

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.


APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Angela Felicity Harris to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Harris of Richmond in Our County of North Yorkshire

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Harris of Richmond to have and to hold unto her for her life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use

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all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the sixth day of August in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL


APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Mrs Rosalind Patricia-Anne Howells Officer of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Howells of St. Davids of Charlton in Our London Borough of Greenwich

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Howells of St. Davids to have and to hold unto her for her life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the twenty-first day of July in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL