House of Lords Journal 232 (Session 1998-99)


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Wednesday 20 October 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Aldenham, L.
Alderdice, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Arran, E.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Balfour of Inchrye, L.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Bathurst, E.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bell, L.
Bellwin, L.
Berkeley, L.
Berners, B.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Bradford, E.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Braybrooke, L.
Brentford, V.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Canterbury, Abp.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnarvon, E.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Carrick, E.
Carter, L.
Carver, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chadlington, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chandos, V.

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Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clifford of Chudleigh, L.
Clinton, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clitheroe, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Cornwallis, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Craigmyle, L.
Cranborne, V.
Cranbrook, E.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Croham, L.
Cross, V.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dearing, L.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denman, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Devonport, V.
Dholakia, L.
Diamond, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughmore, E.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Downshire, M.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Dudley, E.
Dundee, E.
Eatwell, L.
Ebury, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Eden of Winton, L.
Effingham, E.
Elder, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Fairhaven, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Filkin, L.
Fisher, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Forester, L.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freeman, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gage, V.
Gainford, L.
Gale, B.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Gladwyn, L.
Glanusk, L.
Glenamara, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goschen, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Granard, E.
Grantchester, L.
Gray, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Guilford, E.
Habgood, L.
Hacking, L.
Haddington, E.
Hambro, L.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Hankey, L.
Hanningfield, L.
Hanworth, V.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of High Cross, L.
Harrowby, E.
Haslam, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Healey, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Huntingdon, E.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inchcape, E.
Inchyra, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jacobs, L.
Jakobovits, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kemsley, V.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kimball, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knollys, V.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laird, L.
Laming, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Leathers, V.

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Leigh, L.
Levy, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Lindsay, E.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E.
Lipsey, L.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Lytton, E.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McFarlane of Llandaff, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Malmesbury, E.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Merrivale, L.
Mersey, V.
Methuen, L.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Mills, V.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monk Bretton, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Montrose, D.
Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mountevans, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Nickson, L.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norfolk, D.
Norrie, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Onslow, E.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Orme, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plumb, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prashar, B.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Radnor, E.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rodney, L.
Rogan, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Romney, E.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Warsaw, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saatchi, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. Germans, E.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandwich, E.
Savile, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seaford, L.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Serota, B.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Southwark, Bp.
Stair, E.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Suffield, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Temple of Stowe, E.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tordoff, L.
Torphichen, L.
Torrington, V.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.

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Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Weir, V.
Westbury, L.
Whaddon, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Winston, L.
Wise, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.
Younger of Leckie, V.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Lichfield.

1.Baroness Ashton of Upholland—Catherine Margaret Ashton, having been created Baroness Ashton of Upholland, of St. Albans in the County of Hertfordshire, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 2nd August 1999 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord Levy and the Baroness Thornton, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
2.Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall—Genista Mary McIntosh, having been created Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall, of Hampstead in the London Borough of Camden, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 3rd August 1999 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Baroness Blackstone and the Lord Puttnam, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
3.Earl of Guilford—Piers Edward Brownlow Earl of Guilford sat first in Parliament after the death of his father, Edward Francis Earl of Guilford, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
4.Viscount Kemsley—Richard Gomer Viscount Kemsley sat first in Parliament after the death of his kinsman, Geoffrey Lionel Viscount Kemsley, having first taken and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
5.Oath—Francis Egerton Lord Ebury took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

6.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department and another (Respondents) ex parte Mbanja (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition of James Waweru Mbanja praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged (lodged 13th August).
7.Appeal Committee—The 65th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made—

D’Souza (Petitioner) v. London Borough of Lambeth (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Twinsectra Limited (Respondents) v. Yardley and others (Petitioners) (First petition)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Twinsectra Limited (Respondents) v. Yardley and others (Petitioners) (Second petition)—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Clark (Respondent) v. Chief Constable of Cleveland Police (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Westacre Investments Inc (a company incorporated under the laws of Panama) (Respondents) v. Jugoimport-SDPR Holding Company Limited (formerly Federal Directorate of Supply and Procurement an agency of the Federal Secretariat of National Defence of the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia) and others (Petitioners) and one other action—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Ali (Respondent) v. Courtaulds Textiles Limited (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Johnson (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Unisys Limited (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 3rd November next.

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Papers

8.Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

Environment—Government Response to the 13th Report of the House of Commons’ Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee on the Operation of the Landfill Tax.

(4461)

9.Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

Postal Privilege (Suspension) Order 1999 (Revocation) Order 1999, laid under the British Telecommunication Act 1981.

(2863)

10.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Accounts for 1998–99 of Scottish Natural Heritage, together with the report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Natural Heritage (Scotland) Act 1991;
2.Review for 1994–1997 of the National Galleries of Scotland, laid under the National Heritage (Scotland) Act 1985;
3.Report and Accounts for 1998–99 of the Scottish Environment Protection Agency, laid under the Environment Act 1995.

Select Committee Report

11.Committee for Privileges—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix 3); it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 108)

Public Business

12.House of Lords Bill—It was moved by the Duke of Montrose that the bill be referred to the Examiners in respect of clause 1; after debate, the motion was disagreed to (see division list 1).
13.Immigration and Asylum Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); an amendment was agreed to (see division list 3); the debate on amendment 123 was adjourned; further consideration on report was adjourned.
14.Cuba—The Baroness Hooper asked Her Majesty’s Government what is their current policy towards Cuba; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Scotland of Asthal.
15.Immigration and Asylum Bill—The bill was further considered on report; the debate on amendment 123 was resumed; after further debate, the amendment was (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 4); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 95)

The House was adjourned at twenty-three minutes before two o’clock
in the morning of Thursday 21st October till later the same day,
two o’clock in the afternoon for judicial business,
three o’clock for public business.


DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

HOUSE OF LORDS BILL

It was moved by the Duke of Montrose that the bill be referred to the Examiners in respect of Clause 1; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............85

Not-Contents.............214

CONTENTS

Ailsa, M.
Ashbourne, L.
Balfour of Inchrye, L.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Biddulph, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Braybrooke, L.
Cadman, L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clifford of Chudleigh, L. [Teller]
Clinton, L.
Clitheroe, L.
Coleraine, L.

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Coleridge, L.
Cox, B.
Cross, V.
Davidson, V.
Denman, L.
Donoughmore, E.
Dudley, E.
Dundee, E. [Teller]
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Erroll, E.
Exmouth, V.
Fisher, L.
Forester, L.
Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
Gainford, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Glenarthur, L.
Gray, L.
Haddington, E.
Hambro, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harrowby, E.
Hemphill, L.
Holderness, L.
Ironside, L.
Kinnoull, E.
Lauderdale, E.
Leigh, L.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E.
Liverpool, E.
Long, V.
Merrivale, L.
Monk Bretton, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Montrose, D.
Morris, L.
Moyne, L.
Munster, E.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Nickson, L.
Norrie, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
Patten, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Rees, L.
Rennell, L.
Renwick, L.
Rodney, L.
Rowallan, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. Germans, E.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sharples, B.
Strange, B.
Sudeley, L.
Suffield, L.
Teynham, L.
Torphichen, L.
Torrington, V.
Wedgwood, L.
Weir, V.
Westbury, L.
Wise, L.
Wynford, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alderdice, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Borrie, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bragg, L.
Brentford, V.
Brett, L.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burns, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnarvon, E.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chandos, V.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Crawley, B.
Croham, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
David, B.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Elder, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gale, B.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glanusk, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooson, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kintore, E.
Laming, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Levy, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
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Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Marsh, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
Ogmore, L.
Onslow, E.
Orme, L.
Patel, L.
Peston, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L
Richard, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Russell, E.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stallard, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Wilton, E.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 2

IMMIGRATION AND ASYLUM BILL

It was moved by the Lord Bishop of Southwark, in Clause 89, page 60, line 3, at end to insert (“and shall in any event be extended:

(i) in the event that either party indicates an intention to bring judicial review proceedings in respect of an asylum claim or other aspect of an asylum seeker’s immigration status, for a period reasonably long enough to enable him to do so, and

(ii) for so long as any such proceedings, and any further appeal or proceedings arising from them, remain pending, and

(iii) whether or not such proceedings are proposed or taken, for so long as the Secretary of State has under consideration further representations in respect of the claimant’s immigration status, and

(iv) whenever and for so long as the Secretary of State does not or is for any reason unable to effect the removal of an asylum seeker and his dependants (if any) following rejection of an asylum claim”);

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............74

Not-Contents.............122

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Alderdice, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Avebury, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Bradshaw, L.
Brentford, V.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clement-Jones, L.
Davidson, V.
Dholakia, L.
Elton, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Gage, V.
Geraint, L.
Glanusk, L.
Goodhart, L.
Grey, E.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Hemphill, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hylton, L.
Jakobovits, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Lauderdale, E.
Lichfield, Bp.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.

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McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Merrivale, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
Ogmore, L.
Palmer, L.
Patel, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Razzall, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rennard, L
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Russell, E. [Teller]
Sandwich, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Southwark, Bp. [Teller]
Suffield, L.
Swinfen, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurso, V.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Watson of Richmond, L.
Wigoder, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Ahmed, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Borrie, L.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Crawley, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gale, B.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Hacking, L.
Hanworth, V.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Leathers, V.
Levy, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Nicol, B.
Northbourne, L.
Orme, L.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Puttnam, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Thornton, B.
Uddin, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Walpole, L.
Warner, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winston, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

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Division No. 3

IMMIGRATION AND ASYLUM BILL

It was moved by the Lord Bishop of Southwark, after Clause 89, to insert the new Clause (Eligibility for social security benefits); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............161

Not-Contents.............116

CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Alderdice, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Bathurst, E.
Beaverbrook, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Boardman, L.
Bradshaw, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Carlisle, E.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chesham, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clitheroe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cranborne, V.
Crathorne, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dundee, E.
Eccles, V.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Ferrers, E.
Fookes, B.
Freeman, L.
Gage, V.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gray, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Grey, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harrowby, E.
Haslam, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L. [Teller]
Higgins, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Iveagh, E.
Jakobovits, L.
Jopling, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinnoull, E.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lawrence, L.
Leigh, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
Maddock, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Montrose, D.
Morris, L.
Mountevans, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Norfolk, D.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton of Louth, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
Ogmore, L.
Onslow, E.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pender, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rennard, L
Renton, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rodney, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Sandwich, E.
Savile, L.
Seccombe, B.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Southwark, Bp. [Teller]
Stewartby, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurso, V.
Tordoff, L.
Torrington, V.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Waddington, L.
Warnock, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Wise, L.
Young, B.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alli, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Borrie, L.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Crawley, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dubs, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gale, B.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glanusk, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hanworth, V.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Kennet, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Levy, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Patel, L.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thornton, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Warner, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winston, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 4

IMMIGRATION AND ASYLUM BILL

It was moved by the Earl of Sandwich, in Clause 93, page 63, line 14, at end to insert:

(“( ) For the purposes of subsection (3) above, the work of charities, churches, faith groups or religious organisations shall not be regarded as support and assets which are or might reasonably be expected to be available to the person concerned or his dependents.”);

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............46

Not-Contents.............83

CONTENTS

Alton of Liverpool, L.
Astor, V.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V. [Teller]
Carlisle, E.
Chesham, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Craigavon, V.
Craigmyle, L.
Dholakia, L.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Ferrers, E.
Fookes, B.
Glanusk, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Gray, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hylton, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jopling, L.
Kintore, E.
Lichfield, Bp.
Lyell, L.
McNair, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Montrose, D.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.

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Norton of Louth, L.
Patel, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Sandwich, E. [Teller]
Southwark, Bp.
Swinfen, L.
Tebbit, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Ahmed, L.
Alli, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashton of Upholland, B.
Bach, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Bragg, L.
Brett, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookman, L.
Burlison, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Christopher, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Crawley, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Elder, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Filkin, L.
Gale, B.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Goldsmith, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
(Lord Privy Seal)
Judd, L.
King of West Bromwich, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Lipsey, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Monkswell, L.
Nicol, B.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Simon, V.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thornton, B.
Warner, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whitty, L.
Wilkins, B.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winston, L.
Woolmer of Leeds, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.


APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Catherine Margaret Ashton to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Ashton of Upholland of St. Albans in Our County of Hertfordshire

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Ashton of Upholland to have and to hold unto her for her life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the second day of August in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL


APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Genista Mary McIntosh to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall of Hampstead in Our London Borough of Camden

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And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall to have and to hold unto her for her life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the third day of August in the forty-eighth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL


APPENDIX 3

SECOND REPORT

from the Committee for Privileges


20 October 1999


Ordered to Report

1. That the Committee have met and have considered the reference of the House of 27 July which was in the following terms: “whether the House of Lords Bill (as amended on Report) would, if enacted, breach the provisions of the Treaty of Union between England and Scotland”.

2. That the Committee have heard counsel on behalf of the Lord Gray and on behalf of Her Majesty’s Government.

3. That it is the unanimous opinion of the Committee that the House of Lords Bill (as amended on Report) would not, if enacted, breach the provisions of the Treaty of Union between England and Scotland. Reasons for this decision will be given later.


Footnote: The Proceedings of the Committee were also published as HL Paper 108–I.