House of Lords Journal 232 (Session 1998-99)


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Thursday 29 July 1999

The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alderdice, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barnett, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Brett, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brigstocke, B.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butler of Brockwell, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Carrick, E.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chalfont, L.
Chesham, L.
Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clwyd, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Craigmyle, L.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cross, V.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.

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Donegall, M.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dundee, E.
Dunleath, L.
Dunrossil, V.
Eccles, V.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elder, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Faulkner of Worcester, L.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Fookes, B.
Forester, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Gladwyn, L.
Glanusk, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Gowrie, E.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Greenwood, V.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanham, B.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayter, L.
Henley, L.
Hesketh, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Howe, E.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Huntingdon, E.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Keyes, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knollys, V.
Laird, L.
Laming, L.
Lane, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Lea of Crondall, L.
Leathers, V.
Leigh, L.
Levy, L.
Lincoln, Bp.
Listowel, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Lyell, L.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
McCarthy, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Malmesbury, E.
Mancroft, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Merrivale, L.
Mersey, V.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monckton of Brenchley, V.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Morris, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mountevans, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norrie, L.
Northbrook, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow, E.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pender, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennard, L.
Rennell, L.
Richard, L.
Ridley, V.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.

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Saatchi, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandwich, E.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Steyn, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Sudeley, L.
Suffolk and Berkshire, E.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Tomlinson, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Warner, L.
Warnock, B.
Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young, B.
Young of Dartington, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bath and Wells.

1.Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Friday 30th July.

Papers

2.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Social Security (Transfer of Staff) (Northern Ireland) Order 1999, laid under the Tax Credits Act 1999;
 (2038)
2.European Communities (Designation) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;
 (2027)
3.Parliamentary Commissioner (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Parliamentary Commissioner Act 1967;
 (2028)
4.European Convention on Extradition Order 1990 (Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the Extradition Act 1989;
 (2035)
5.Air Navigation (Fifth Amendment) Order 1999, laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982.

(2059)

3.Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

Dockyard Port of Plymouth Order 1999, laid under the Dockyard Ports Regulation Act 1865.

(2029)

Select Committee Report

4.House of Lords’ Annual Report and Accounts—It was ordered that the Report and Accounts for the year 1998–99, as authorised by the House of Lords’ Offices Committee, be printed. (HL Paper 104)

Public Business

5.Committee for Privileges—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that, for the purpose of hearing the references on the effect of the House of Lords Bill, the senior Lord of Appeal present be appointed Chairman of the Committee for Privileges; and that the Committee have leave to hear parties interested, by themselves, their counsel, agents, and witnesses so far as the Committee think fit; the motion was agreed to.

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6.Financial assistance to opposition parties—It was moved by the Baroness Jay of Paddington that, in the opinion of this House, the provisions of this Resolution should have effect in relation to the giving of financial assistance to opposition parties and to the Convenor of the Crossbench Peers in this House:
 (1) The Resolution of the House of 27th November 1996 shall have effect as if paragraph (2)(b) provided for £216,842 and £65,052 respectively to be the maximum amounts of financial assistance which may be given for the year beginning with 1st April 1999.
 (2) Financial assistance shall be available to assist the Convenor of the Crossbench Peers in carrying out Parliamentary business on behalf of the Crossbench Peers.
 (3) The maximum amounts of financial assistance which may be given to the Convenor under this Resolution shall be—
  (a) for the period beginning with 1st October 1999 and ending with 31st March 2000, £10,000;
  (b) for the year beginning with 1st April 2000, £20,000, but increased by the percentage (if any) by which the retail prices index for March 2000 has increased compared with the index for March 1999, and (if the resulting amount is not a whole number of pounds) rounded to the nearest pound; and
 (c) for each subsequent year, the maximum amount for the previous year but increased by the percentage (if any) by which the retail prices index for the previous March has increased compared with the index for the March before that, and (if the resulting amount is not a whole number of pounds) rounded to the nearest pound.
 (4) Any claims for financial assistance under this Resolution are to be made to the Accounting Officer of the House; and, in claiming such assistance, the Convenor shall—
 (a) furnish that Officer with a statement of the facts on which the claim is based;
 (b) certify to that Officer that the expenses in respect of which the assistance is claimed have been incurred exclusively in relation to Parliamentary business on behalf of the Crossbench Peers; and
 (c) as soon as practicable after each 31st March following the passing of this Resolution furnish that Officer with the certificate of an independent professional auditor to the effect that all expenses in respect of which the financial assistance was claimed during the period ending with that day were incurred as mentioned in sub-paragraph (b) above.
 (5) In this Resolution—
 (a) “the retail prices index” means the general index of retail prices (for all items) published by the Office for National Statistics (or any index or figures published by that Office in place of that index); and
 (b) “year” means a year beginning with 1st April;

after debate, the motion was agreed to.

7.Greater London Authority Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 92)
8.Overseas development—The Earl of Sandwich asked Her Majesty’s Government what examples they have of good practice in long-term overseas development, with special reference to Africa and India; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Amos.

The House was adjourned at four minutes before ten o’clock
till tomorrow, eleven o’clock.