House of Lords Journal 232 (Session 1998-99)

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Tuesday 27 May 1999

The House met at eleven o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailsa, M.
Alderdice, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Arlington, B.
Arran, E.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barber, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Biddulph, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Brain, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burnham, L.
Buscombe, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chadlington, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chesham, L.
Chilver, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.

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Clark of Kempston, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Downshire, M.
Drogheda, E.
Dunrossil, V.
Eames, L.
Eden of Winton, L.
Effingham, E.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Enniskillen, E.
Erne, E.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Evans of Watford, L.
Exmouth, V.
Falkland, V.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwyn, L.
Glanusk, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Grenfell, L.
Gretton, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Haddington, E.
Haig, E.
Halsbury, E.
Hanworth, V.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrowby, E.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henley, L.
Hereford, Bp.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Tanworth, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Kitchener, E.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Leathers, V.
Leigh, L.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merrivale, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mountevans, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Neill of Bengarve, B.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patel, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reading, M.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rennell, L.

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Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Richard, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Sandwich, E.
Seccombe, B.
Serota, B.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Clifton, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Swinton, E.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Tebbit, L.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Torrington, V.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walpole, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Willoughby de Broke, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Wise, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Hereford.

1.The Baroness Arlington—The Lord Chancellor informed the House that Her Majesty had been pleased to determine the abeyance of the Barony of Arlington in favour of Mrs Jennifer Jane Forwood and explained to the House Her Ladyship’s descent; then Her Ladyship was called in and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2.Waters (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Respondent)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.


3.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Tower Hamlets London Borough Council) Order 1999, laid under the Local Government Act 1988;
2.Horse Racing (Charges on Bookmakers) Order (Northern Ireland), laid under the Northern Ireland Act 1974;
3.Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Act 1999 (Immunities and Privileges) Order 1999, laid under the Northern Ireland (Location of Victims’ Remains) Act 1999.


4.Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

Police (Secretary of State’s Objectives) (No. 2) Order 1999, laid under the Police Act 1996.


Select Committee Reports

5.Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to be printed:

16th Report, on the following bills:

Greater London Authority Bill;
Protection of Children Bill. (HL Paper 67)
6.Financial Services and Markets—The 2nd Report from the Joint Committee was made; it was ordered that the Report be printed, together with the minutes of proceedings and minutes of evidence. (HL Paper 66)

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Public Business

7.Consolidation Bills—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that, pursuant to Standing Order 49, the following Lords be appointed to join with a Committee of the Commons as the Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills:
E. Alexander of Tunis
L. Clyde
V. Colville of Culross
V. Dilhorne
L. Hacking
L. Campbell of Alloway
L. Hobhouse of Woodborough
L. Janner of Braunstone
B. Mallalieu
L. Meston
L. Razzall
L. Strabolgi;

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman; and

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the Committee think fit, be printed and delivered out;

the motion was agreed to.

8.Local Government (Organisation and Standards)—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Commons message of yesterday be now considered and that a Select Committee of eight Lords be appointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Commons, to consider the draft Local Government (Organisation and Standards) Bill, published in the Command Paper entitled Local Leadership, Local Choice (Cm. 4298);

That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection, the following Lords be named of the Committee:

L. Bassam of Brighton
L. Bowness
E. Carnarvon
B. Hamwee
L. Marlesford
L. Pilkington of Oxenford
L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede
B. Thornton;

That the Committee have power to agree with the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman;

That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;

That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;

That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place within the United Kingdom;

That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the Committee think fit, be printed and delivered out;

That the Committee shall report by 31st July;

and that the Committee do meet with any committee appointed by the Commons on Tuesday 15th June at half past three o’clock in Committee Room 4;

the motion was agreed to.

9.Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [HL]—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 65)
10.Genetic Modification in Agriculture (ECC Report)—It was moved by the Lord Reay that this House take note of the Report of the European Communities Committee on EC Regulation of Genetic Modification in Agriculture (2nd Report, HL Paper 11); after debate, the motion was agreed to.
11.Obscenity Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time and, after debate, was passed and sent to the Commons.

The House was adjourned at twenty-two minutes before six o’clock
to Monday 7th June, half-past two o’clock.