House of Lords Journal 232 (Session 1998-99)


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Wednesday 17 February 1999

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.
Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Aldington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barber, L.
Barnett, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackburn, Bp.
Blackwell, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Bragg, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Broadbridge, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Browne-Wilkinson, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L.
Carver, L.
Chalfont, L.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Chilver, L.
Chorley, L.
Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clifford of Chudleigh, L.
Clinton, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Congleton, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Craigmyle, L.
Cranborne, V.
Crickhowell, L.
Croham, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Dartmouth, E.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Devonport, V.
Dholakia, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donegall, M.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Drogheda, E.

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Dulverton, L.
Dundonald, E.
Dunrossil, V.
Eatwell, L.
Effingham, E.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Emerton, B.
Erne, E.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Feldman, L.
Fisher of Rednal, B.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gainsborough, E.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Gladwyn, L.
Glanusk, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Gowrie, E.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Griffiths of Fforestfach, L.
Grimston of Westbury, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hampton, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanningfield, L.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harris of High Cross, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hindlip, L.
Hobhouse of Woodborough, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inchcape, E.
Inglewood, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Judd, L.
Kenyon, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knollys, V.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Laming, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layton, L.
Leathers, V.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lindsay, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Liverpool, E.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
Macclesfield, E.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McFarlane of Llandaff, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
McNair, L.
Maddock, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monk Bretton, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Moran, L.
Morris, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Neill of Bladen, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norrie, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Paul, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Perth, E.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.

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Pike, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plumb, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reading, M.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowallan, L.
Ryder of Warsaw, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saatchi, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Savile, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Sempill, L.
Shannon, E.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sheppard of Liverpool, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Stafford, L.
Stallard, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stockton, E.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Swinton, E.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Tebbit, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thornton, B.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Torrington, V.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Walker of Worcester, L.
Walpole, L.
Warnock, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Williamson of Horton, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Wise, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

1.Lord Williamson of Horton—Sir David Francis Williamson GCMG CB, having been created Baron Williamson of Horton, of Horton in the County of Somerset, for life by Letters Patent dated 5th February 1999 (see appendix), was introduced between the Baroness Elles and the Lord Whitty, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2.Arthur J S Hall & Co (Petitioners) v. Simons (A.P.) (Respondent)—The respondent’s legal aid certificate was lodged.
3.Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 9th Report:

Scandecor Development AB (Petitioners) v. Scandecor Marketing AB and others (Respondents) and one other action—That the petition be referred for hearing.

Holland (Petitioner) v. Lampen-Wolfe (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 3rd March next.

Papers

4.Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

Health—Towards a Healthier Scotland: Government proposals.

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5.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.National Health Service (Fund-Holding Practices) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1999, laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978;
 (365)
2. (i)Local Authorities (Requisite Calculations) (Wales) (Prescribed Amounts) Regulations 1999—(297)
(ii)Council Tax Reduction Scheme (Wales) Regulations 1999—(347)
(iii)Council Tax (Demand Notices) (Wales) (Transitional Provisions) Regulations 1999—(348)
 laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992;
3.Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Stoke on Trent City Council) Order 1999, laid under the Local Government Act 1988;
 (315)
4.Education (Transition to New Framework) (New Schools, Groups and Miscellaneous) Regulations 1999, laid under the School Standards and Framework Act 1998;
 (362)
5.Insolvency (Amendment) Rules 1999, laid under the Insolvency Act 1986.
 (359)

Select Committee Report

6.Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to be printed:

7th Report, on the Health Bill [HL]. (HL Paper 29)

Public Business

7.Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill [HL]—A bill to make further provision about the registration of births and deaths where particulars are given in Welsh as well as English and to make new provision about certificates of particulars of entries in registers of births and deaths was presented by the Lord Elis-Thomas, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 22)
8.Births and Deaths Registration (Amendment) Bill [HL]—It was ordered that the Explanatory Notes relating to the bill be printed. (HL Bill 22–EN)
9.Scottish Parliamentary Constituencies Bill [HL]—A bill to make new provision in respect of representation in the Scottish Parliament and in relation to the Boundary Commission for Scotland; and for connected purposes was presented by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 23)
10.Severn Tunnel (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Crickhowell that there be laid before the House papers relating to the planned closure of the Severn Tunnel this summer and the consequences for users and the Welsh economy; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
11.House of Lords: separation of powers (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Lester of Herne Hill that there be laid before the House papers relating to the arrangements for maintaining the separation of powers in the House of Lords between the judicial branch and the legislative and executive branches of government; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
12.Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) (Amendment) Bill [HL]—The order of commitment was discharged.
13.Ministerial correspondence—The Lord Glenarthur asked Her Majesty’s Government what criteria they apply to the timeliness and completeness of replies by Ministers and officials to correspondence from members of both Houses of Parliament and the public; and whether they are satisfied that they are meeting such criteria; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Falconer of Thoroton.

The House was adjourned at fourteen minutes before eight o’clock
till tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,
three o’clock for public business.

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APPENDIX

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir David Francis Williamson Knight Grand Cross of Our Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George Companion of Our Most Honourable Order of the Bath to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Williamson of Horton in Our County of Somerset

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Williamson of Horton to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster on the fifth day of February in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL