House of Lords Journal 232 (Session 1998-99)


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Thursday 21 January 1999

The House met at three o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ahmed, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alderdice, L.
Aldington, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alli, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Bach, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bathurst, E.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bellwin, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bramall, L.
Brentford, V.
Brightman, L.
Broadbridge, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookman, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Buckinghamshire, E.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Burns, L.
Buscombe, B.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carrick, E.
Carrington, L.
Carter, L.
Chadlington, L.
Chalfont, L.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Christopher, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.

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Clarke of Hampstead, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clement-Jones, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clwyd, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Craigavon, V.
Craigmyle, L.
Crathorne, L.
Crawley, B.
Crickhowell, L.
Cross, V.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dacre of Glanton, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Dartmouth, E.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Freyne, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Devonport, V.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Donegall, M.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Dudley, E.
Dunrossil, V.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Effingham, E.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erne, E.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Foley, L.
Fookes, B.
Forbes, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geraint, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwyn, L.
Glanusk, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Goudie, B.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Haddington, E.
Halsbury, E.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Haringey, L.
Harrowby, E.
Haskel, L.
Haskins, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hothfield, L.
Howe, E.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inge, L.
Inglewood, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kitchener, E.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Knollys, V.
Laming, L.
Lamont of Lerwick, L.
Lane, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Leigh, L.
Levy, L.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Listowel, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B.
Longford, E.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Macpherson of Drumochter, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Merrivale, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monckton of Brenchley, V.
Monk Bretton, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.

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Morris, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Napier of Magdâla, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Nolan, L.
Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Norton of Louth, L.
Nunburnholme, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L.
Onslow, E.
Orme, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perth, E.
Peston, L.
Phillips of Sudbury, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Romney, E.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Sandys, L.
Sawyer, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharp of Guildford, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stallard, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strafford, E.
Strange, B.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Temple of Stowe, E.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thornton, B.
Thurlow, L.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Uddin, B.
Ullswater, V.
Vivian, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warner, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Windlesham, L.
Wise, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester.

Judicial Business

1.Companhia Europeia de Transportes Aeros SA (a foreign corporation) (Petitioner) v. British Aerospace Public Limited Company and others (Respondents) (lodged 20th January)—The petition of Antonio Anibal Andrade Baptista Lopes (Proposed substitute plaintiff) praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
2.Appeal Committee—The 17th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made:

Axis West Developments Limited (Appellants) v. Chartwell Land Investments Limited (Respondents) (Scotland)—That the petition of the respondents praying that the appellants give security for costs in the sum of £50,000.00 notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order V, such sum to be paid into the House of Lords Security Fund Account within 21 days or within such other period as the Appeal Committee shall think fit, was refused.

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Regina v. Marylebone Magistrates’ Court and another (Respondents) ex parte Amdrell Limited (trading as ‘Get Stuffed’) and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Hurst (Petitioner) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—That the petition of Robert Alfred Hurst praying for leave to present an appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order I has expired be allowed and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 4th February next.

W 1-6 (A.P.) (Cross-Petitioners) v. Essex County Council and another (Cross-Respondents)—That the petition of W 1-6 praying for leave to cross-appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order VII has expired be referred for hearing.

Regina v. Manchester Stipendiary Magistrate and the Lord Advocate (Petitioner) ex parte Granada Television Limited (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 4th February next.

In re L (1998)—That leave to appeal be refused.

In re Peracha (A.P.) (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department and another (Respondents) ex parte Peracha (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused and that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

Papers

3.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Draft Railways (Rateable Values) (Scotland) Order 1999.

4.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Rules of the Supreme Court (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) 1999, laid under the Judicature (Northern Ireland) Act 1978;
 (—)
2.Vehicle Excise Duty (Immobilisation, Removal and Disposal of Vehicles) (Amendment) Regulations 1999, laid under the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994;
 (35)
3.Allocation of Housing and Homelessness (Review Procedures) Regulations 1999, laid under the Housing Act 1996;
 (71)
4. (i)Sea Fish (Specified Sea Area) (Regulation of Nets and Prohibition of Fishing) (Variation) Order 1999—(74)
(ii)Bass (Specified Areas) (Prohibition of Fishing) (Variation) Order 1999—(75)
 laid under the Sea Fish (Conservation) Act 1967.
5.Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

Report on care in Wales for people with a mental illness and people with a mental handicap, laid under the Disabled Persons (Services, Consultation and Representation) Act 1986.

Public Business

6.Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [HL]—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that it be an instruction to the Committee of the Whole House to whom the Pollution Prevention and Control Bill [HL] has been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:
Clause 1
Schedule 1
Clauses 2 and 3
Schedules 2 and 3
Clause 4;

the motion was agreed to.

7. Access to Justice Bill [HL]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.
8.Road Traffic (NHS Charges) Bill—A bill to make provision about the recovery from insurers and certain other persons of charges in connection with the treatment of road traffic casualties in national health service, and certain other, hospitals; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 13)
9.Social Security Benefits Up-rating Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Order laid before the House on 13th January be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

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10.Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance Fund Payments) Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Order laid before the House on 13th January be approved; the motion was agreed to.
11.Guaranteed Minimum Pensions Increase Order 1999—It was moved by the Baroness Hollis of Heigham that the draft Order laid before the House on 13th January be approved; the motion was agreed to.
12. Access to Justice Bill [HL]—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed after amendment 144.

The House was adjourned at eight minutes before ten o’clock
to Monday next, half-past two o’clock.