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Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 497B:


Page 275, line 12, leave out from (“road"") to end of line 13 and insert (“includes a reference to a GLA side road;").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 497C:


Page 278, line 11, at beginning insert--
(“(1) The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for or in connection with--
(a) exemptions from charge,
(b) the application of reduced rates of charge, or
(c) the imposition of limits on the charges payable,
in the case of any prescribed class of motor vehicles or any prescribed description of disabled or other persons.
(2) Subject to any regulations under sub-paragraph (1) above,").

The noble Lord said: My Lords, in moving Amendment No. 497C, I wish to speak also to Amendments Nos. 498, 512A, and 513A, which stand in my name. The government amendments fulfil the commitment that I gave to my noble friend Lord Morris of Manchester when I met him and other representatives of disabled groups and people interested within this House on 6th October to discuss disability issues arising from the Bill. I also referred briefly to our intention to move these amendments when we debated similar amendments moved last Tuesday by my noble friend Lord Morris.

These amendments will enable the Secretary of State to make regulations to grant concessions and exemptions from road user and workplace parking charges in London. That includes any exemption from charges for disabled persons. Therefore, this regulation-making power will ensure that national exemptions will apply both inside and outside London.

We are in the process of finalising the structure of national concessionary arrangements. We hope shortly to be able to provide a summary of the responses that have been received to our consultation

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paper Breaking the Logjam. The question of exemptions will be dealt with in that context. We shall ensure that the regulations that the Secretary of State can prescribe will be in place before any charging scheme is introduced in London.

The regulations we shall bring forward will be subject to the negative resolution procedure of both Houses. I should add that the mayor will still be able to specify exemptions or concessions in London where those have not been specified by the Secretary of State as applying nationally.

I believe that those points meet the concern expressed in this House about the ability of the mayor to introduce charging schemes without reference to national exemptions because the Bill will have passed before any subsequent legislation. I believe that that is tidied up by this amendment. Clearly, there will be national exemptions and those will apply within London. I hope that those who have been understandably concerned about this matter will be reassured by the amendments. I beg to move.

Earl Attlee: My Lords, we are grateful to the Minister for the way in which he has moved his amendments, not least because I am not entirely confident about the drafting of my amendments. Therefore, we are happy with progress on this issue. Obviously, I shall not be moving my amendments.

Baroness Darcy de Knayth: My Lords, I thank the Minister for Amendment No. 497C. I shall refer to my noble friend Lord Morris of Manchester, as “my noble friend" because that is how he described me on Tuesday. I am delighted to repay the compliment.

I believe that the noble Lord, Lord Morris of Manchester, explained to the Minister why he would be unable to be here today to thank the Minister. I too thank the Minister. The noble Lord, Lord Morris of Manchester, feels that the amendment meets his point totally. Amendment No. 511 will therefore not be moved.

I echo the noble Lord's thanks for the meeting we had with the Minister two weeks ago. It was an extremely friendly, helpful and productive meeting. I am very grateful to the Minister for having listened so carefully and having given such a good response.

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendments Nos. 498 to 508 not moved.]

Clause 255 [Workplace parking levy]:

[Amendments Nos. 509 to 511 not moved.]

[Amendment No. 512 not moved.]

Schedule 19 [Workplace parking levy]:

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 512A:


Page 291, line 26, at beginning insert (“The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for or in connection with exempting--
(a) a prescribed number of parking places provided at any premises from being workplace parking places, or
(b) any prescribed class of motor vehicles from being controlled vehicles,

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whether generally or in the case of any prescribed description of premises or any prescribed description of disabled or other persons.
(1A) The Secretary of State may by regulations make provision for or in connection with--
(a) exemptions from licensing,
(b) the application of reduced rates of charges for licences, or
(c) the imposition of limits on the charges payable for a licence,
in the case of any prescribed description of premises or any prescribed description of disabled or other persons or, in the case of paragraph (b) or (c) above, any prescribed class of motor vehicles.
(1B) Subject to any regulations under sub-paragraph (1) or (1A) above,").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendment No. 513 not moved.]

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 513A:


Page 291, line 31, at beginning insert (“Subject to any regulations under sub-paragraph (1) or (1A) above,").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendments Nos. 514 to 523 not moved.]

5.45 p.m.

Clause 257 [Functions during the transitional period]:

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton moved Amendment No. 523A:


Page 148, line 18, at end insert--
(“(bb) facilitating the transfer of functions, property, rights or liabilities to Transport for London from any other body or person from whom they are or may be so transferred under or by virtue of this Act; or").

The noble Baroness said: My Lords, Chapter “VI of Part IV provides for the transition from London Transport to Transport for London. In particular it is designed to deal with the period prior to the transfer to TfL of London Underground during which both bodies will be in existence with London Transport continuing to be responsible for the operation of the Underground.

London Transport, as the most substantial predecessor body, clearly has a major role to play in the setting up of TfL. Clause 257(2) already imposes a duty on London Transport to do anything it considers appropriate for a transitional purpose; that is, securing that public transport services are not disrupted, securing the PPP agreement, and transferring the property, rights and liabilities of LT to TfL.

This amendment widens the transitional provisions in the Bill to ensure that London Transport has sufficient powers to do anything necessary to facilitate the setting up of TfL. That would include facilitating the transfer of functions, property, rights and liabilities from any other predecessor body to TfL. I beg to move.

On Question, amendment agreed to.

[Amendment No. 524 not moved.]

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Clause 259 [Continuity: repealed or revoked functions]:

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton moved Amendment No. 525:


Page 150, line 8, after (“by") insert (“or in relation to").

The noble Baroness said: My Lords, in moving this amendment, I wish to speak also to Amendments Nos. 526 and 527, and 567 to 570. This group of amendments clarifies the continuity provisions in Clauses 259 and 356. Amendments Nos. 525, 526 and 527 aim to ensure that anything made, done by or in relation to London Regional Transport shall have effect as if made, done by or in relation to Transport for London. Amendments Nos. 567, 568, 569 and 570 make similar provision in relation to bodies abolished or dissolved and functions transferred, revoked or repealed by this Bill. I beg to move.

On Question, amendment agreed to.

Lord Whitty moved Amendments Nos. 526 and 527:


Page 150, line 11, after (“by") insert (“or in relation to").
Page 150, line 15, at end insert--
(“( ) Any reference in this section to anything made or done by or in relation to London Regional Transport includes a reference to anything which by virtue of any enactment is treated as having been made or done by or in relation to London Regional Transport.").

On Question, amendments agreed to.

Clause 260 [Transfer of former functions of London Transport Executive]:

Lord Whitty moved Amendment No. 528:


Page 150, line 19, at end insert--
(“(2) In section 144 of the Transport Act 1968 (transfer and disposal of historical records and relics) for “London Regional Transport" in each place where it occurs there shall be substituted “Transport for London".").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

Clause 263 [Appointment of members by the Mayor]:

Lord Dixon-Smith moved Amendment No. 528A:


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