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Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton: My Lords, perhaps it would be helpful if I carefully repeat the Government's position. All advice that we have offered has been offered on the basis of what the Government believe would need to be considered were the policy outlined in the Bill one that the Government

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in the fullness of time wished to follow. That may be grammatically incorrect, but I believe the meaning is absolutely clear.

Lord Renton of Mount Harry: My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for giving way. From my point of view, as the prime mover of the Bill, I fully understand what she says. Her sentence was full of a marvellous amount of conditions. I congratulate her on it. We all appreciate that this, in many ways, is a trial balloon. We are setting down a template that we hope the Government will follow in due course.

Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton: My Lords, the position of the Government on the Bill remains as stated in Committee.

Lord Rotherwick: My Lords, I wish to support the amendment, as it goes a long way towards what we would like to see when trying to obtain the proper balance between landscapes.

Lord Burnham: My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for giving way. Perhaps I may point out that no one should speak after the Minister on Report with the exception of the mover of the amendment.

Lord Chorley: My Lords, I think it falls to me to conclude this short, but interesting, discussion. Even though he was, apparently, somewhat out of order, I am glad that I had the support of the noble Lord, Lord Rotherwick. He got his word in anyway. I simply commend my amendment to the House.

2.50 p.m.

On Question, Whether the said amendment (No. 5) shall be agreed to?

Their Lordships divided: Contents, 15; Not-Contents, 2.

Division No. 1


Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Chorley, L.
Elton, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Lyell, L. [Teller.]
Montrose, D.
Nathan, L.
Rees, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Rotherwick, L. [Teller.]
Shaughnessy, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Weatherill, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.


Kimball, L. [Teller.]
Kintore, E. [Teller.]

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2.59 p.m.

The Deputy Speaker: My Lords, as it appears that fewer than 30 Lords have voted, in accordance with Standing Order No. 55 I declare the Question is not decided, and that further proceedings on the Bill stand adjourned.

        House adjourned at three o'clock.

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