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HOUSE OF LORDS

MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Die Martis 17° Novembris 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Blackburn.

1. Leave of Absence—Leave of absence was granted to the Lord Chancellor for Wednesday 18th November.

Papers

2. Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

    Draft Parole Board (Transfer of Functions) Order 1998.

3. Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

    Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Tendring District Council) Order 1988, laid under the Local Government Act 1988.      (2762)

4. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

    Accounts for 1997-98 of Scottish Natural Heritage, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Natural Heritage (Scotland) Act 1991;

    Reports by the Secretary of State for Scotland, the Chairman of Committees and the Chairman of Ways and Means in the House of Commons on Representations by

    (a)      HFC Bank plc and Beneficial Bank plc—

    (b)      the United Reform Church Trust and the Congregational Union of Scotland Nominees Ltd—

    laid under the Private Legislation Procedure (Scotland) Act 1936.

Select Committee Reports

5. Statutory Instruments—The 48th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory instruments, including the following affirmative instruments:

      Draft Functions of Traffic Wardens (Scotland) Order 1998;

      Draft Broadcasting (Restrictions on the Holding of Licences) (Amendment) Order 1998;

      Draft Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) (No. 2) Order 1998;

    it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 155)

6. European Communities—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to be printed:

    Airline Competition; (32nd Report—HL Paper 156)

    Partnership and Trust: The Tacis Programme. (33rd Report—HL Paper 157)

Private Business

7. Alliance & Leicester plc (Group Reorganisation) Bill [HL] (formerly Girobank plc (Transfer) Bill [HL])—

    It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the Commons message of 12th November be now considered; and that the promoters of the bill have leave to suspend any further proceedings thereon in this session in order to proceed with the bill in the next session of Parliament, notice of their intention to do so having been deposited in the Office of the Clerk of the Parliaments not later than 12 noon tomorrow;

    That the bill be deposited in the Office of the Clerk of the Parliaments not later than noon on the second sitting day in the next session with a declaration annexed, signed by the agent, stating that the bill is the same in every respect as the bill at the last stage of the proceedings thereon in this House in the present session;

    That the proceedings on the bill in the next session of Parliament be pro forma in regard to every stage through which the bill has passed in the present session, and that no new fees be charged to such stages;

    That the Private Business Standing Orders apply to the bill in the next session only in regard to any stage through which the bill has not passed during the present session;

    the motion was agreed to and it was ordered that a message be sent to the Commons to acquaint them therewith.

8. London Local Authorities Bill [HL]—

    It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the promoters of the bill have leave to suspend any further proceedings thereon in order to proceed with it, if they think fit, in the next session of Parliament, provided that notice of their intention to do so is lodged in the Office of the Clerk of the Parliaments not later than 12 noon tomorrow and that all fees due on or before that day have been paid;

    That the bill be deposited in the Office of the Clerk of the Parliaments not later than noon on the second sitting day in the next session with a declaration annexed, signed by the agent, stating that the bill is the same in every respect as the bill at the last stage of the proceedings thereon in this House in the present session;

    That the proceedings on the bill in the next session of Parliament be pro forma in regard to every stage through which the bill has passed in the present session, and that no new fees be charged to such stages;

    That the Private Business Standing Orders apply to the bill in the next session only in regard to any stage through which the bill has not passed during the present session;

    the motion was agreed to and it was ordered that a message be sent to the Commons desiring their agreement thereto.

9. City of Westminster Bill [HL]— A message was brought from the Commons, that they have made the following orders:

    That the promoters of the City of Westminster Bill [HL] shall have leave to suspend proceedings thereon in order to proceed with the Bill, if they think fit, in the next Session of Parliament, provided that the Agents for the Bill give notice to the Clerks in the Private Bill Office not later than the day before the close of the present Session of their intention to suspend further proceedings and that all Fees due on the Bill up to that date be paid;

    That, if the Bill is brought from the Lords in the next Session, the Agent for the Bill shall deposit in the Private Bill Office a declaration signed by him, stating that the Bill is the same, in every respect, as the Bill which was brought from the Lords in the present Session;

    That, as soon as a certificate by one of the Clerks in the Private Bill Office, that such a declaration has been so deposited, has been laid upon the Table of the House, the Bill shall be read the first and second time and committed (and shall be recorded in the Journal of the House as having been so read and committed);

    That the Petition relating to the Bill presented in the present Session which stands referred to the Committee on the Bill shall stand referred to the Committee on the Bill in the next Session;

    That no Petitioners shall be heard before the Committee on the Bill, unless their Petition has been presented within the time limited within the present Session or deposited pursuant to paragraph (b) of Standing Order 126 relating to Private Business;

    That, in relation to the Bill, Standing Order 127 relating to Private Business shall have effect as if the words “under Standing Order 126 (Reference to committee of petitions against Bill)” were omitted;

    That no further Fees shall be charged in respect of any proceedings on the Bill in respect of which Fees have already been incurred during the present Session;

    That these Orders be Standing Orders of the House.

Public Business

10. European Parliamentary Elections Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons earlier this day with their disagreement to the Lords amendments insisted on, with their amendment in lieu not insisted on but with a further amendment proposed in lieu thereof; the Commons amendment was printed under Standing Order 48 (HL Bill 166); the Commons amendment was considered forthwith; a motion that the House do insist on the Lords amendments to which the Commons have disagreed and do disagree with the Commons in their further amendment in lieu was agreed to (see division list 1); a Committee was appointed to propose a reason for such insistence and disagreement.

    The Lords following were named of the Committee:

    Blatch, B.

    Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.

    Williams of Mostyn, L.

    The Committee reported that they had proposed the following reason:

    “Because the review proposed by the Commons is not an adequate substitute for an electoral system that allows electors to vote for the individual party candidate of their choice.”

    The report was agreed to and the bill was returned to the Commons with a reason.

11. Regional Development Agencies Bill—The bill was returned from the Commons with the amendments agreed to.

12. Scotland Bill—The Commons amendments and reasons were considered; certain Lords amendments were not insisted on and the Commons amendments in lieu were agreed to; a motion that the House do insist on a Lords amendment was disagreed to (see division list 2); then the Lords amendment was not insisted on; a Commons amendment to a Lords amendment was agreed to; and the remaining Lords amendments were not insisted on.

13. Northern Ireland Bill—The bill was read a third time; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; then, after debate, the bill was passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.

14. Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) (No. 2) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 16th November be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

15. Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations 1998—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Regulations laid before the House on 19th October be approved; after debate, the motion was agreed to.

16. Local Elections (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Dubs that the draft Order laid before the House on 19th October be approved; the motion was agreed to.

17. Marketing—The Baroness O’Cathain asked Her Majesty’s Government what steps they are taking to encourage marketing and its contribution to business success; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord McIntosh of Haringey.

The House was adjourned at twenty-three minutes past eleven o’clock

till tomorrow, two o’clock for judicial business,

half-past two o’clock for public business.

MICHAEL DAVIES

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