House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Monday 22 June 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.
Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Balfour, E.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bellwin, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bethell, L.
Biddulph, L.
Birkett, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridge of Harwich, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Broadbridge, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.

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Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chapple, L.
Chesham, L.
Chorley, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crickhowell, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Dartmouth, E.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Diamond, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Foley, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geraint, L.
Gibson-Watt, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glentoran, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grey, E.
Griffiths, L.
Hamwee, B.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inglewood, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Jakobovits, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kenyon, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Knollys, V.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layton, L.
Leicester, E.
Leigh, L.
Levy, L.
Lewis of Newnham, L.
Lindsay, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mountgarret, V.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.

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Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Nelson, E.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norrie, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Orme, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Pender, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Ryder of Warsaw, B.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Seccombe, B.
Selborne, E.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.
Sudeley, L.
Suffolk and Berkshire, E.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurlow, L.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Warnock, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Westbury, L.
Whaddon, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitelaw, V.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wise, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Leicester.

1.Leave of Absence—It was ordered that leave of absence be granted to the Lord Hunt for the remainder of this Parliament.

Judicial Business

2.Agnew (Suing on his own behalf and in a representative capacity on behalf of all members of Lloyds Syndicates 672, 79, 1023 and 590) and others (Respondents) v. La­nsfo­rsa­kringsbolagens AB (Appellants) (England)—The appeal of La­nsfo­rsa­kringsbolagens AB was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 3rd August next.
3.London Underground Limited (Petitioners) v. Edwards (Respondent)—The petition of London Underground Limited praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
4.IM Properties plc (Petitioners) v. Cape & Dalgleish (a firm) (Respondents)—The petition of IM Properties plc praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
5.Hamptons Residential Limited (Respondents) v. Field (on his own behalf and on behalf of the members of syndicates numbered 113, 204, 210, 235, 279, 316, 322, 365, 456, 490, 650, 657, 702, 818, 821, 839, 989, 1048, 1069, 1095 and 1127 at Lloyds) and 24 others (Petitioners)—The petition of Roger Anthony Field on behalf of himself and others praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.

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6.Bruton (A.P.) (Appellant) v. London and Quadrant Housing Trust (Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.
7.Fuji Finance Inc. (Appellants) v. Aetna Life Insurance Company Limited and others (Respondents)—The petition of the appellants was presented praying that the appeal be withdrawn on the terms agreed between the parties, that there be no order as to costs and that the sum of £18,000.00 paid into the House of Lords Security Fund Account might be repaid to the appellants’ agents (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto); and it was ordered as prayed.
8.Appeal Committee—The 79th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made:
Swiggs and others (Respondents) v. Nagarajan (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 6th July next.
Gregory (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. Portsmouth City Council (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 6th July next.
Rafiq (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused.
Ord and another (A.P.) (Petitioners) v. Belhaven Pubs Limited (substituted by Ascot Holdings Plc) (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused, and that the costs of the petitioners be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.
London Borough of Hounslow (Petitioners) v. McBride (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused.
Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Petitioners) v. British Telecommunications Plc (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 6th July next.


9.Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
Children—The National Childcare Strategy in Wales: Government consultation document.
10.Affirmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Draft Houses in Multiple Occupation (Charges for Registration Schemes) Regulations 1998;
2.Draft Community Drivers’ Hours and Recording Equipment (Amendment) Regulations 1998.
11.Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
National Health Service Superannuation Scheme (Scotland) (Additional Voluntary Contributions) Regulations 1998, laid under the Superannuation Act 1972.
12.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Accounts for 1997–98 of the Broadcasting Standards Commission, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Broadcasting Act 1996;
2.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Welsh National Board for Nursing, Midwifery and Health Visiting, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Nurses, Midwives and Health Visitors Act 1997.

Select Committee Report

13.Science and Technology—The 8th Report from the Select Committee, Digital Images as Evidence: Government Response, was made; it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 121)

Public Business

14.Sex Discrimination—The petition of Ms Rachel Anderson, praying that this House will call upon Her Majesty’s Government to review the Sex Discrimination Act 1975 with the intention of enhancing the powers of the Act, so that discrimination such as that practised by the PFA against Ms Rachel Anderson at the PFA Awards Dinner be clearly against the law, was presented by the Lord Razzall, and ordered to lie on the Table.
15.Registered Establishments (Scotland) Bill—The order of commitment was discharged.
16.Police (Northern Ireland) Bill—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn.

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17.National Lottery Bill [HL]—The Commons amendments were considered and agreed to and the privilege amendment was agreed to.
18.National Minimum Wage Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 130)
19.Witnesses in criminal trials—The Baroness Byford asked Her Majesty’s Government what progress they are making in reviewing the way in which vulnerable or intimidated witnesses are treated in the criminal justice system, with particular reference to witnesses in trials of rape or indecent assault; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Williams of Mostyn.

The House was adjourned at nine o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.