House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)


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Monday 15 June 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Arran, E.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Balfour, E.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Broadbridge, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L.
Chesham, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clifford of Chudleigh, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Crickhowell, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donegall, M.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erne, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Foley, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamwee, B.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of Peckham, L.
Haskel, L.
Haslam, L.
Hawke, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inglewood, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.

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Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levy, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norrie, L.
Norton, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Orme, L.
Orr-Ewing, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Parkinson, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plumb, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Pym, L.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reading, M.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selborne, E.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwell, Bp.
Stair, E.
Stallard, L.
Stanley of Alderley, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thurlow, L.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tweeddale, M.
Ullswater, V.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Westbury, L.
Whaddon, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Wise, L.
Young, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.

Judicial Business

1.Friend (Petitioner) v. Civil Aviation Authority and others (Respondents) (lodged 1st April)—The petition of Brian Leonard Friend praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.
2.Hegab (Petitioner) v. Shamash (Respondent) (lodged 14th April)—The petition of Nabil Hegab praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.
3.Todd (Petitioner) v. Decora Window Blinds Limited (Respondents) (Northern Ireland) (lodged 8th May)—The petition of Wilma Todd praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
4.Docker and others (A.P.) (Petitioners) v. Chief Constable of West Midlands Police (Respondents) (lodged 27th May)—The petition of David Stanley Docker, Albert Head, William Rea Lamont and Steven Rhodes praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The legal aid certificates of the first, third and fourth petitioners were lodged.
5.Regina v. North Yorkshire County Council (Appellants) ex parte Brown and another (Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.
6.Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 70th Report:
Piglowska (Petitioner) v. Piglowski (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 29th June next.
7.Appeal Committee—The following Orders were made pursuant to the 72nd Report:
Murray and another (A.P.) (Petitioners) v. Foyle Meats Limited (Respondents) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 29th June next.
Alan Wibberley Building Limited (Respondents) v. Insley (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 29th June next.
8.Appeal Committee—The 78th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made:
Regina v. Jeffries and Chalkley (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.
Regina v. Deegan (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.
Lewis (of the Vehicle Inspectorate) (Respondent) v. Moss and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 6.1(e) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.
Regina v. Litchfield (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.
Friend (Petitioner) v. Civil Aviation Authority and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.
Hegab (Petitioner) v. Shamash (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused.

Papers

9.Statutory Instrument (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instrument, having been laid before the House on 12th June, was ordered to lie on the Table:
Treasury Bills (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Treasury Bills Act 1877.
(1450)
10.Deregulation—The following document was laid before the House under section 3(3) of the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Deregulation Committee:
Proposal for the Draft Deregulation (Pipe-lines) Order 1998.
11.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1. (i)Health Boards (Membership and Procedure) (No. 2) Amendment Regulations 1998—(1459)

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(ii)National Health Service Trusts (Membership and Procedure) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998—(1458)
laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978;
2.Mental Health Review Tribunals (Regions) Order 1998, laid under the Mental Health Act 1983.
 (1460)
12.Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
Report and Accounts for 1997 of the Engineering Construction Industry Training Board, laid under the Industrial Training Act 1982.

Select Committee Report

13.Delegated Powers and Deregulation—The following report from the Select Committee was made and ordered to be printed:
22nd Report, on the following bills:
Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) (Amendment) Bill [HL];
Statute Law Repeals Bill [HL]. (HL Paper 118)

Public Business

14.House of Lords’ Offices—It was moved by the Chairman of Committees that the 5th Report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 109) be agreed to; after debate, the motion was agreed to.
15.Building Regulations (Energy Rating Information) (Amendment) Bill [HL]—The order of commitment was discharged.
16.Government of Wales Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the question that a clause stand part of the bill was negatived; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 125)
17.National Minimum Wage Bill—After debate, the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.
18Fire regulations, Scotland—The Lord Howie of Troon asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they intend to alter the building regulations relating to fire in Scotland to bring them nearer to those applying in England and Wales; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Sewel.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.
The House was resumed.

19.National Minimum Wage Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed after Clause 40 stood part.

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes past eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.