House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Monday 11 May 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Balfour, E.
Balfour of Inchrye, L.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barber, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blatch, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Brightman, L.
Brigstocke, B.
Broadbridge, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Broughshane, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, Bp.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Chorley, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clyde, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Crathorne, L.
Crickhowell, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Dartmouth, E.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Freyne, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Eatwell, L.
Elibank, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Emerton, B.
Erne, E.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.

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Ewing of Kirkford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Glenamara, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greene of Harrow Weald, L.
Greenhill of Harrow, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamwee, B.
Hankey, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayter, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
Hesketh, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Hothfield, L.
Howe, E.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Huntly, M.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inglewood, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jeffreys, L.
Jeger, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kenyon, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kilmarnock, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Knollys, V.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layton, L.
Leathers, V.
Leigh, L.
Levy, L.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Malmesbury, E.
Mancroft, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moran, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norrie, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Orme, L.
Orr-Ewing, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Ellesmere, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson, L.
Ripon, Bp.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Runciman of Doxford, V.
Russell, E.

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Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Serota, B.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stallard, L.
Stanley of Alderley, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Suffolk and Berkshire, E.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Tenby, V.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, L.
Thurlow, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tweeddale, M.
Ullswater, V.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Warnock, B.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Westbury, L.
Whaddon, L.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wise, L.
Young, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Carlisle.

1.Leave of Absence—It was ordered that leave of absence be granted to the following Lords for the remainder of this Parliament:

Daventry, V.
Harvey of Tasburgh, L.

Judicial Business

2.British Broadcasting Corporation (Respondents) v. Kelly-Phillips (Petitioner) (lodged 7th May)—The petition of Linda Kelly-Phillips praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
3.T G A Chapman Limited and others (Respondents) v. Christopher and others (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 10th June next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.


4.Command Papers—The following papers, having been presented to the House by command of Her Majesty on the dates shown, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Nuclear Energy—Agreement between the United Kingdom and Japan for Co-operation in the Peaceful Uses of Nuclear Energy; (8th May)
2.Immigration Act 1971—Statement of changes in immigration rules, subject to annulment; (8th May)
3.Education—Report by the Social Exclusion Unit on Truancy and School Exclusion. (11th May)
5.Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laid before the House on 8th May, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Textile Products (Indications of Fibre Content) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the European Communities Act 1972;
2.Measuring Instruments (EEC Requirements) (Fees) Regulations 1998, laid under the Finance Act 1973;
3.Penrhos Point Mussel Fishery Order 1998, laid under the Sea Fisheries (Shellfish) Act 1967;
4.Mental Health Review Tribunal (Amendment) Rules 1998, laid under the Mental Health Act 1983;

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5.Local Land Charges (Amendment) Rules 1998, laid under the Local Land Charges Act 1975;
6.Road Traffic (Special Parking Area) (London Borough of Sutton) Order 1998, laid under the Road Traffic Act 1991.
6.Affirmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Draft Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline Acts (Continuation) Order 1998;
2.Draft New Northern Ireland Assembly (Elections) Order 1998.
7.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Legal Aid Act 1988;
2.Teacher Training Agency (Additional Functions) Order 1998, laid under the Education Act 1994;
3.Aviation Security (Air Cargo Agents) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Aviation Security Act 1982;
4.Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 1998, laid under the Road Traffic Act 1988;
5.Special Trustees for the Royal Hospital of St. Bartholomew (Transfer of Trust Property) Order 1998, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;
6.Prescription Only Medicines (Human Use) Amendment (No. 2) Order 1998, laid under the Medicines Act 1968;
7.Cod (Specified Sea Areas) (Prohibition of Fishing) Order 1998, laid under the Sea Fish (Conservation) Act 1967;
8. (i)Social Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 3) Regulations 1998—(1173)
(ii)Social Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 4) Regulations 1998—(1174)
 laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992.

Public Business

8.Police (Northern Ireland) Bill—A bill to make provision about policing in Northern Ireland; and for connected purposes, having been brought from the Commons on Friday 8th May and printed pursuant to Standing Order 48, was read a first time. (HL Bill 112)
9.Government of Wales Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed.
10.Public Interest Disclosure Bill—It was moved by the Lord Borrie that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House.
11.Government of Wales Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; the House was resumed after Clause 20 stood part.

The House was adjourned at twenty-six minutes before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.