House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Monday 14 July 1997

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annan, L.
Arran, E.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Balfour, E.
Barber of Tewkesbury, L.
Barnett, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Bellwin, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Birdwood, L.
Birmingham, Bp.
Blackstone, B.
Blake, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Boyd-Carpenter, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.

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Broadbridge, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Broughshane, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Buckinghamshire, E.
Burnham, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chalfont, L.
Chapple, L.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chelmsford, V.
Chesham, L.
Chorley, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clyde, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Dahrendorf, L.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
De Freyne, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Derwent, L.
Desai, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Kingsbridge, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Downshire, M.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Eden of Winton, L.
Effingham, E.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erne, E.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gage, V.
Gainford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goschen, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Gowrie, E.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantley, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenhill of Harrow, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Headfort, M.
Healey, L.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Henley, L.
Hertford, M.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howell, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inchcape, E.
Inchyra, L.
Ironside, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Judd, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennet, L.
Kilmarnock, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knights, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Leathers, V.
Lestor of Eccles, B.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCluskey, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackintosh of Halifax, V.
MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Merrivale, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moran, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.

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Napier and Ettrick, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Nolan, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Ellesmere, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rankeillour, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Rotherwick, L.
Russell, E.
Sainsbury, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Samuel, V.
Savile, L.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selborne, E.
Selsdon, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Somerset, D.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Spens, L.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swinfen, L.
Swinton, E.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Terrington, L.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thurlow, L.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tweeddale, M.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Westbury, L.
Whaddon, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Wise, L.
Wyatt of Weeford, L.
Wynford, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Birmingham.

1.Oath—Richard William Brinsley Lord Grantley took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2.Jameson and another (Respondents) v. Central Electricity Generating Board (Appellants) and others (England)—The appeal of the Central Electricity Generating Board was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 18th August next.
3.Esso Petroleum Company Limited (Respondents) v. Milton (Appellant) (England)—The appeal of Howard James Milton was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 25th August next.
4.Hunter (Respondent) v. Skingley (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition of Victor Skingley praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.
5.Regina v. Chief Constable of the Royal Ulster Constabulary (Respondent) ex parte Begley (Appellant) (Northern Ireland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.
6.British Telecommunications plc (Appellants) v. James Thomson & Sons (Engineers) Limited (Respondents) (Scotland)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 26th August next or to the third sitting day after the next ensuing meeting of the House (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.


7.Command Paper—The following paper, having been presented to the House by command of Her Majesty on 11th July, was ordered to lie on the Table:

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Finance—Statement on the 1997 EC Budget and Measures to counter fraud and financial mismanagement.


8.Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laid before the House on 11th July, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Registration of Births, Deaths, Marriages and Divorces (Fees) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1997, laid under the Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Scotland) Act 1965;
2.Motor Vehicles (Tests) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1997, laid under the Road Traffic Act 1988;
3.Social Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) (No. 3) Regulations 1997, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992.
9.Negative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

Judicial Pensions (Miscellaneous) (Amendment) Regulations 1997, laid under the Judicial Pensions and Retirement Act 1993.


10.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the—
(i)Defence Postal and Courier Services Agency—
(ii)Meat Hygiene Service—
(iii)Marine Safety Agency—
(iv)Queen Elizabeth II Conference Centre—
(v)Defence Bills Agency—
 laid under the Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921;
2.Report for 1996 of the Parole Board for Scotland, laid under the Prisons (Scotland) Act 1989;
3.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Funding Agency for Schools, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Education Act 1993;
4. (i)Accounts for 1996–97 of Scottish Enterprise, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General—
(ii)Report for 1996–97 of Scottish Enterprise—
(iii)Accounts for 1996–97 of the Highlands & Islands Enterprise Network, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General—
 laid under the Enterprise and New Towns (Scotland) Act 1990;
5.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Accounts Commission for Scotland, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973;
6.Accounts for 1996–97 of Scottish Homes, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Housing (Scotland) Act 1988;
7.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Further and Higher Education Funding Councils for Wales, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Further and Higher Education Act 1992;
8. (i)Accounts for 1996–97, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General—
(ii)Report for 1996–97—
 of the Welsh Development Agency, laid under the Welsh Development Agency Act 1975;
9. (i)Accounts for 1996–97 of the Wales Tourist Board, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General—
(ii)Report for 1996–97 of the Scottish Tourist Board—
 laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969;
10.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Economic and Social Research Council, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Science and Technology Act 1965;
11.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Audit Commission for Local Authorities and the National Health Service in England and Wales, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1982;
12.Report for 1996–97 of the Serious Fraud Office, laid under the Criminal Justice Act 1987;
13.Report for 1995–96 of the Ancient Monuments Board for Wales, laid under the Ancient Monuments and Archaeological Areas Act 1979.

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Private Business

11.Imperial College Bill—The bill was read a third time and passed.

Public Business

12.Coordinated Universal Time Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent to the Commons.
13.Structural and Cohesion Funds: ECC Report—It was moved by the Lord Barnett that this House take note of the Report of the European Communities Committee on Reducing Disparities within the European Union: the Effectiveness of the Structural and Cohesion Funds (11th Report, Session 1996-97, HL Paper 64); after debate, the motion was agreed to.
14.Court Fees—The Lord Ackner asked Her Majesty’s Government what action they have taken or propose to take to protect the constitutional right of access of a litigant of modest means from the impact of new and increased court fees; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Chancellor.
15.The Caribbean—The Baroness Young asked Her Majesty’s Government what proposals they have for addressing the needs of the Caribbean; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean.

The House was adjourned at twenty-eight minutes past eight o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.