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Peter Pan Statue

Lord Kennet asked Her Majesty's Government:

Lord Inglewood: Responsibility for the subject of this question has been delegated to the Royal Parks Agency under its Chief Executive, Mr. David Welch. I have asked him to arrange for a reply to be given.

Letter to Lord Kennet from the Head of Estate Management, the Royal Parks Agency, Mr. R. A. Jones, dated 25th July 1996.

St. Thomas a Becket Chasse

Lord Freyberg asked Her Majesty's Government:

    How the Secretary of State for National Heritage would have prevented the export of the St. Thomas a Becket chasse had an application for an export licence been received and the Waverley conditions had not applied.

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Lord Inglewood: The Secretary of State has a discretion whether or not to grant an export licence and she would normally exercise that discretion and grant a licence if the Waverley conditions did not apply.

Lord Freyberg asked Her Majesty's Government:

    Further to their Answer of 15th July (WA 46), whether the advice given by the Expert Adviser in the even of an application for an export licence for the St. Thomas a Becket chasse would have been advice on its historical importance or on the laws governing export.

Lord Inglewood: If an application for an export licence for the St. Thomas a Becket chasse had been received, and if it had been decided to refer the application to the Expert Adviser, the Expert Adviser would have had an opportunity to object to the granting of a licence if that Adviser believed that the chasse satisfied one or more of the Waverley criteria.

Training and Enterprise Councils

Lord Vivian asked Her Majesty's Government:

    What is the average total cost of a Training and Enterprise Council and what is the top level salary paid.

The Minister of State, Department for Education and Employment (Lord Henley): Her Majesty's Government contract with Training and Enterprise Councils for the delivery of a range of programmes. The average income received from the Government by a Training and Enterprise Council in England during the period 28th March 1994 to 26th March 1995 was £19.297 million. Further information may be found in Training and Enterprise Councils in England Income and Expenditure Account 1994-95, published by HMSO, a copy of which is held in the Library.

In line with other private companies, Training and Enterprise Councils are required to provide information about the remuneration of directors and employees in the notes to their annual accounts. Copies of these are also held in the Library.

Lord Vivian asked Her Majesty's Government:

    How many unemployed people and how many school leavers have been placed in employment from each Training and Enterprise Council since 1st January 1995.

Lord Henley: The information requested is given in the attached table.

England and Wales January 1995-September 1995 leavers Trainee outcome--in a job by TEC
Per cent.

Youth trainingTraining for work
Eastern Region
Central and South Cambridgeshire7547
Greater Peterborough6643
Norfolk and Waveneyn/a35
East Midlands Region
Greater Nottingham5839
South Derbyshire6146
North Derbyshire6347
North Nottinghamshire6251
North East Region
County Durham5734
Sunderland City5436
Yorkshire and Humberside Region
Barnsley and Doncaster5741
North Yorkshire7146
North West Region
South and East Cheshiren/an/a
Central Manchester5737
Stockport-High Peak6640
South West Region
South East Region
Heart of England6544
Wight Training59n/a
Milton Keynes70n/a
Thames Valley7140
Merseyside Region
London Region
North London6145
North West London4036
London East5829
West London6432
South Thamesn/an/a
West Midland Region
Central England6641
Sandwell Tec6839
Mid Glamorgan5640
South Glamorgann/an/a
North East Wales6148
North West Wales5534
West Wales5039


n/a Information not available due to low number of responses.


YT & TfW national follow-up surveys.

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Criminal Legal Aid Fee Rates

Lord Skelmersdale asked Her Majesty's Government:

    Which rates of fee for work allowed under Rule 6 of the Legal Aid in Criminal Proceedings (Costs) (Amendment) Rules (Northern Ireland) (S.R. 1996 No. 222) are greater than those in the equivalent Rules which apply in (a) Scotland and (b) England and Wales; and what is the reason for the difference.

The Lord Chancellor (Lord Mackay of Clashfern): The statutory scheme which regulates the remuneration of solicitors in Scotland under the Criminal Legal Aid (Scotland) (Fees) Regulations 1989 (S.I. 1989/1491 (S.120), as amended) takes account of the particular circumstances of the criminal justice system and legal practice in Scotland. Consequently it does not correspond directly to the remuneration schemes which apply in England and Wales or in Northern Ireland, both of which are broadly similar in format and in the rates of fee allowable thereunder. Rule 6 of the Legal Aid in Criminal Proceedings (Costs) Rules (Northern Ireland) 1992 (S.R. 1992 No. 314, as amended) and the

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equivalent provision in England and Wales, [regulation 6 of the Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (Costs) Regulations 1989 (S.I. 1989/343), as amended] provide that solicitors' fees may be determined on the basis of either a time-based claim or, in respect of certain specified proceedings, a standard fee claim.

The system, and rates, for time-based fees prescribed in Rule 6 and Part I of Schedule 1 to the Northern Ireland Rules correspond to those prescribed in the equivalent provision in England and Wales, (Part I of Schedule 1 to the 1989 Regulations).

Similarly the rates prescribed in Part II of Schedule 1 to the NI Rules equate in the main to the corresponding rates in England and Wales. However, the Northern Ireland system differs from that prescribed in Part II of Schedule I to the 1989 Rules in that a lesser number of the prescribed fees are dealt with on a flat fee basis. Fee rates prescribed in Northern Ireland in respect of advocacy, attendance at court where counsel assigned and travelling and waiting, in connection with Crown Court proceedings are cast in terms of hourly rates and differential rates related to the particular grade of fee-earner involved. Depending on the circumstances of the case, this may result in higher or lower remuneration than the flat-rate system in England and Wales.

The different approach taken in Northern Ireland was introduced as part of a new system for the remuneration of solicitors and counsel which became effective on 1 January 1993. Prior to the introduction of the new system. I considered, following extensive consultations with interested parties, that this more case-specific system was merited in order to take account of the different circumstances and structures of legal practice in Northern Ireland.

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