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Business of the House: Prorogation

3.39 p.m.

Lord Strathclyde: My Lords, as I have announced previously, subject to the progress of business, the House will rise on Thursday, 25th July for the Summer Recess and will resume on Tuesday, 15th October. It may be for the further convenience of the House to know that, again subject to the progress of business, it is intended that the House should meet to prorogue on the morning of Thursday, 17th October. It is further expected that a new Session of Parliament will be opened by Her Majesty the Queen in person on Wednesday, 23rd October.

Allied Irish Banks Bill

Read a third time, and passed.

Business of the House:

Standing Orders 38 and 44

The Lord Privy Seal (Viscount Cranborne): My Lords, I beg to move the Motion standing in my name on the Order Paper. The Motion is to make it easier to arrange a number of items of business which have usual channels' agreement. At this stage in the Session, I am advised that it has not been unusual for the House to agree to such a Motion which allows for greater flexibility in the arrangement of the Order Paper and the consideration of legislation.

Moved, That Standing Order 38 (Arrangement of the Order Paper) and Standing Order 44 (No two stages of a Bill to be taken on one day) be suspended until the House rises for the Summer Recess.--(Viscount Cranborne.)

Lord Richard: My Lords, I do not wish to detain the House long on this Motion; nor do I wish to move a formal amendment to it. But the Leader of the House will know that going through the House at the moment is a Bill called the Statutory Instruments (Production and Sale) Bill. He will also know that in relation to that Bill, the Opposition, or at least this part of them, are not prepared to see the proper time limits on that Bill truncated in the way set out in the Motion.

Therefore, as I say, while I do not wish to amend the Motion formally, I wish to have the expressed consent and acceptance of the Leader of the House to the fact that discussions on the Statutory Instruments (Production and Sale) Bill are continuing within the usual channels. If they are successful, no more will be heard from me. But if they are not successful, it will be necessary for the Leader of House to come back to the House in relation to that particular Bill and ask for a Motion in like terms to the one which he is moving now; in other words, I do not wish my position on that Bill to be prejudiced by the fact that I am not formally amending the Motion this afternoon. I hope that I make myself clear to the House.

Lord Harris of Greenwich: My Lords, as the noble Viscount will be aware, my colleagues have made our

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position very clear in relation to the same Bill. We would be firmly opposed to the Bill being dealt with over-expeditiously, for the reasons set out by the noble Lord, Lord Richard. I very much hope that discussions on this matter will continue because we should be most firmly opposed to any question of trying to bounce the Bill through the House without giving it adequate consideration.

Viscount Cranborne: My Lords, I am grateful to both noble Lords for giving me the opportunity to confirm that the timing of consideration of the Bill to which they have both referred is still the subject of discussion through the usual channels. I hope that it may be possible to persuade both noble Lords and their colleagues that there need be no objection to completing the passage of that Bill next week.

However, the notice of forthcoming business which was circulated today indicates that only the Committee stage of the Bill is scheduled for Tuesday of next week. That is in order not to prejudge the outcome of further discussion through the usual channels which are proceeding. Therefore, I believe that I can give both noble Lords the assurance which they require.

On Question, Motion agreed to.

Deer (Scotland) Bill [H.L.]

3.45 p.m.

The Lord Advocate (Lord Mackay of Drumadoon): My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now resolve itself into Committee (on Recommitment) on this Bill.

Moved, That the House do now resolve itself into Committee (on Recommitment).--(Lord Mackay of Drumadoon.)

On Question, Motion agreed to.

House in Committee accordingly.

[The CHAIRMAN OF COMMITTEES in the Chair.]

Clauses 1 to 35 agreed to.

Clause 36 [Offences in connection with venison dealing]:

Lord Mackay of Drumadoon moved Amendment No. 1:


Page 18, line 24, leave out ("receive") and insert ("receives").

The noble and learned Lord said: My Lords, this amendment and the other amendments which stand in my name have all been discussed with the chairman of the Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills who is content that these amendments represent an accurate consolidation of the existing law.

Amendment No. 1 cures a minor defect in the consolidation which would have had the effect of making the offer to receive a carcass of an unlawfully killed deer an offence rather than, as at present, actually receiving such a carcass. I beg to move.

On Question, amendment agreed to.

Clause 36, as amended, agreed to.

Clauses 37 to 39 agreed to.

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Clause 40 [Power of Commission to require return of number of deer killed]:

Lord Mackay of Drumadoon moved Amendment No. 2:


Page 19, line 25, at end insert ("taken or").

The noble and learned Lord said: My Lords, in speaking to this amendment, I shall speak also to Amendments Nos. 3 and 4. Since this Bill was considered by the Joint Committee, the Deer (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill has completed its stages in another place. Amendments Nos. 2 to 4 make changes in the consolidation Bill consequential on the changes made on Report in another place to the Deer (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. I beg to move.

On Question, amendment agreed to.

Clause 40, as amended, agreed to.

Clauses 41 to 48 agreed to.

Schedules 1 to 3 agreed to.

Schedule 4 [Consequential amendment]:

Lord Mackay of Drumadoon moved Amendment No. 3:


Page 31, line 2 at end insert--

("The Agriculture (Scotland) Act 1948 (c.45)

.--(1) The Agriculture (Scotland) Act 1948 shall be amended as follows.
(2) In section 39(3A) (exclusion of certain deer from provisions of that section), for the words "section 35A of the Deer (Scotland) Act 1959" there shall be substituted the words "section 45 of the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996".
(3) In section 42A (definition of "animals for the purposes of sections 40 to 42), for the words "section 35A of the Deer (Scotland) Act 1959" there shall be substituted the words "section 45 of the Deer (Scotland) Act 1996".").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

Schedule 4, as amended, agreed to.

Schedule 5 agreed to.

Schedule 6 [Transitional, transitory and saving provisions]:

Lord Mackay of Drumadoon moved Amendment No. 4:


Page 32, line 2, leave out ("and 3") and insert ("to 4").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

Schedule 6, as amended, agreed to.

House resumed: Bill reported with amendments.

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Broadcasting Bill [H.L.]


3.49 p.m.

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of National Heritage (Lord Inglewood): My Lords, I beg to move that the Commons amendments be now considered.

Moved, That the Commons amendments be now considered.--(Lord Inglewood.)

On Question, Motion agreed to.

COMMONS AMENDMENTS AND MOTIONS AND AMENDMENTS TO BE MOVED ON CONSIDERATION OF COMMONS AMENDMENTS
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COMMONS AMENDMENT

1

Clause 1, page 2, line 5, after 'programmes' insert '(together with any ancillary services, as defined by section 21(2))'.

Lord Inglewood: My Lords, I beg to move that the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 1. In moving this Motion, I shall speak also to Amendments Nos. 2, 3, 22, 23, 25, 37 to 41, 52, 56 to 60, 78, 86 to 88, 97 and 98. I ask that the House agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 1 and the group of amendments connected with it which adjust the provisions of the Bill with regard to additional and ancillary services. The amendments achieve three things. First, they ensure that the whole of the 10 per cent. of the capacity on each multiplex which can be devoted to additional services is available for services which are not connected to television or radio programmes. Ancillary services, electronic programme guides and conditional access data, in so far as they relate to television or radio programmes rather than additional services, will not count towards that 10 per cent. limit.

Secondly, the amendments make adjustments to the definitions of digital programme services and digital sound programme services and therefore to the boundary between programme and additional services.

Thirdly, though we have done the best we can in the Bill, and through these amendments, to cater for all foreseeable eventualities, technological developments are not always foreseeable. Amendments Nos. 3 and 60 allow the Government, by affirmative order, to amend the definitions of programme services and, therefore, what is counted as an additional service, in order to take account of such developments. Together with the order-making power already in the Bill allowing revision of the 10 per cent. limit on additional services, this gives a flexibility which may well prove necessary in dealing with this new technology.

In speaking to the amendments this afternoon, I propose to be as brief as I can be. In so doing, I hope that I will not be thought to be discourteous but rather that I shall enable the business to proceed appropriately and expeditiously. Needless to say, it is possible that some noble Lords may need to question what I say because I have been a trifle too speedy in my approach.

Moved, That the House do agree with the Commons in their Amendment No. 1.--(Lord Inglewood.)

On Question, Motion agreed to.

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