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Lord Greenway had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 123:


Leave out Clause 13 and insert the following new clause:

("Regional and local fisheries, recreation and navigation committees

13.—(1) It shall be the duty of the Agency—
(a) to establish and maintain fisheries, recreation and navigation advisory committees;
(b) to consult those committees as to the manner in which the Agency is to carry out its functions relating to fisheries, recreation and navigation; and
(c) to consider any representations made to it by those committees (whether in response to consultation under paragraph (b) above or otherwise) as to the manner in which the Agency carries out those functions.
(2) (a) Each fisheries, recreation and navigation committee shall consist of—
(i) persons who appear to the Agency to be interested in salmon fisheries, trout fisheries, freshwater fisheries or eel fisheries;
(ii) persons who appear to the Agency to have knowledge of recreation interests; and
(iii) persons who appear to the Agency to have knowledge of navigation interests.
(b) The members of fisheries, recreation and navigation advisory committees shall not be members of the Agency.
(3) The duty to establish and maintain fisheries, recreation and navigation advisory committees imposed by subsection (1) above is a duty to establish and maintain—
(a) a regional fisheries, recreation and navigation advisory committee for each region of England and Wales; and
(b) such local fisheries, recreation and navigation advisory committees as the Agency considers necessary to represent fisheries, recreation and navigation interests in the different parts of each region;
and it shall be the duty of the Agency in determining the regions for which regional committees are established and maintained under this section to ensure that one of those regions consists (apart from territorial waters) wholly or mainly of, or of most of, Wales.
(4) If the Agency, with the consent of the Ministers, so determines, it shall also be under a duty to consult the fisheries, recreation and navigation committees, or such of them as may be specified or described in the determination, as to—
(a) the manner in which it is to perform its duties under or by virtue of such of the enactments relating to conservation as may be the subject of the determination, or

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(b) such matters relating to conservation as may be the subject of the determination.
(5) Where, by virtue of subsection (4) above, the Agency is under a duty to consult those committees or any of them, there may be included among the members of the committees in question persons who are not members of the Agency but who appear to it to be interested in matters—
(a) likely to be affected by the manner in which it performs the duties to which the determination in question relates, or
(b) which are the subject of the determination, if the Ministers consent to the inclusion of persons of that description.
(6) There shall be paid by the Agency—
(a) to the chairman of any regional or local fisheries, recreation and navigation advisory committee established and maintained under this section such remuneration and such travelling and other allowances; and
(b) to any other members of that committee such sums by way of reimbursement (whether in whole or in part) for loss of remuneration, for travelling expenses or for any other out-of-pocket expenses,
as may, with the consent of the Treasury, be determined by one of the Ministers.").

The noble Lord said: I shall not move the amendment, and so I do not need to withdraw it officially. But on the basis of what I said previously, and subject to the agreement of the Minister and my noble friend Lord Moran, I should like to discuss this matter with him and reserve the right to bring it forward at a later stage.

[Amendment No. 123 not moved.]

Clause 13 agreed to.

Clause 14 [Regional flood defence committees]:

Viscount Ullswater moved Amendment No. 124:


Page 15, line 12, leave out ("existing") and insert ("old").

The noble Viscount said: I can save the time of the Committee by saying that Amendments Nos. 124 to 127 are of a minor technical nature. I beg to move.

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On Question, amendment agreed to.

Clause 14, as amended, agreed to.

Schedule 4 agreed to.

Clauses 15 and 16 agreed to.

Clause 17 [Local flood defence schemes and local flood defence committees]:

Viscount Ullswater moved Amendment No. 125:


Page 18, line 12, leave out ("date on which this section comes into force") and insert ("transfer date").

On Question, amendment agreed to.

Clause 17, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 18 [Composition of local flood defence committees]:

Viscount Ullswater moved Amendments Nos. 126 and 127:


Page 19, line 41, leave out ("a regional flood defence") and insert ("an old regional").
Page 20, line 8, at end insert:
("(9) In this section "old regional committee" means a regional flood defence committee for the purposes of section 9 of the 1991 Act.").

On Question, amendments agreed to.

Clause 18, as amended, agreed to.

Clause 19 agreed to.

[Amendment No. 128 not moved.]

Schedule 5 agreed to.

[Amendment No. 129 not moved.]

The Earl of Lindsay: I beg to move that the House do now resume.

Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.

House resumed.

        House adjourned at eleven minutes past ten o'clock.

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