Joint Committee On Human Rights Fifth Report


Appendices


Appendix 1a: Letter dated 18 December 2006 from the Chairman to the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission, re Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill

As part of our normal process of scrutinising the human rights implications of Government legislation, my Committee has decided to examine a number of matters arising from the provisions of the Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill.

We consider the Bill's provisions relating to the powers of the NIHRC to be very significant in relation to their effect on your capacity to further the promotion and protection of human rights in Northern Ireland, and on your status as a national human rights institution. As you will recall, we discussed these issues during our recent visit to you.

We would be very grateful if you could provide us with a memorandum of evidence setting out the NIHRC's view of these provisions (Clauses 13 to 19 of the Bill). In particular, it would be helpful for us if you could set out your view of the likely effects of the various restrictions on your proposed new powers. It would also be helpful if you could let us know if you would wish to see included in the Bill any of the other additional powers for the NIHRC which you have recommended in the past, with your reasons.

In addition, if you are able to in the time available, we would welcome any comments you might have on the human rights implications of other provisions contained in the Bill. The other principal human rights matters we will be considering in our scrutiny are—

It would be helpful if any evidence you submit could be with us by 19 January.

Appendix 1b: Letter dated 19 December 2006 from the Chairman to The Rt Hon. Peter Hain MP, Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, re Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill

The Joint Committee on Human Rights is considering the human rights compatibility of the Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill. Having carried out an initial examination of the Bill, the Committee would be grateful if you could provide a fuller explanation of the Government's view that the proposals in the Bill are compatible with the Convention rights guaranteed by the Human Rights Act 1998 in the following respects.

(1) Justification for new system of non-jury trial

The Committee is considering whether in its view there is sufficient justification for the proposed new power to dispense with jury trial in certain cases.

The Explanatory Notes to the Bill correctly state that the Bill's provision for non-jury trial does not infringe the right to a fair trial in Article 6(1) ECHR, because that right does not confer the right to trial by jury: both trial by jury and trial by judge alone provide valid mechanisms for the determination of a criminal charge by an independent and impartial tribunal.[128] However, the Bill's provision for non-jury trial still requires justification, for two reasons. First, the common law recognises a right to jury trial, restrictions on which are possible in principle but require justification. Second, a difference of treatment within the scope of application of a Convention right requires justification under Article 14 ECHR even if the difference of treatment does not itself amount to a breach of the relevant Convention right.

The main justification for the introduction and continuation of the Diplock courts in Northern Ireland was to prevent jury intimidation. The Bill contains other measures designed to reduce the risk of juror intimidation. However, the Explanatory Notes state that, even with these proposed jury reforms, "it is not yet possible for Northern Ireland to operate entirely without the fall-back of some special arrangements for a small number of exceptional cases."[129] The new system of non-jury trial is said to be "necessary to ensure that trials continue to be fair in Northern Ireland and that the quality of justice remains high."

Q1. Please provide a more detailed justification of the need for the new power, including up to date evidence of the incidence of juror intimidation in Northern Ireland compared to the rest of the UK, and an explanation of why the other measures in the Bill to reduce the risk of jury intimidation are not considered by the Government to be adequate.

(2) Width of DPP's power to certify

The Committee is considering the human rights implications of the DPP's very wide power to certify that a trial should be conducted without a jury, and in particular its implications for freedom of association and the right to respect for private and family life.

The power to certify can be exercised if the DPP "suspects" that a person is an "associate" of a person who is, or has at any time been, a member of a proscribed organisation, if he is also satisfied that the administration of justice might thereby be impaired.[130] "Associate" is defined to include a "friend" or a "relative", as well as spouses or former spouses, civil partners or former civil partners, and co-habiting partners or former partners. A proscribed organisation is defined to include an organisation which was proscribed at the time of a person's membership of the organisation. The power to certify is therefore extremely wide. A person may be deprived of a jury trial, for example, if the DPP suspects that the person is a friend or relative of a former member of a formerly proscribed organisation (if he is also satisfied that this poses a risk to a fair trial).

Q2. To assist the Committee's consideration of whether the width of the power to certify constitutes a justifiable interference with a person's freedom of association and right to respect for their private and family life, please provide a more detailed justification for applying the power to certify to people who are "associates" of members or former members of proscribed organisations.

Q3. What safeguards are contemplated to guard against the risk of the power being abused?

(3) Ouster clause

The Committee is considering the human rights compatibility of the Bill's purported ouster of the jurisdiction of the ordinary courts to determine the legality of the DPP's decision to issue a certificate.

The Explanatory Notes state that this clause does not oust the jurisdiction of the courts altogether, but rather restricts the grounds on which the issue of a certificate by the DPP may be challenged.[131] Challenge would still be possible on grounds of dishonesty or bad faith. The notes also claim that such a limitation on the grounds on which a certificate can be challenged is not incompatible with the right of access to a court in Article 6(1) ECHR because the DPP's decision to issue a certificate does not amount to the determination of a civil right.

This provision raises the very significant issue of preclusion or restriction of the right of access to court, recognised as fundamental both by the common law and in the scheme of the ECHR by the European Court of Human Rights. Although on its face the clause permits challenge on grounds of bad faith or dishonesty, it expressly precludes challenge on grounds of lack of jurisdiction or error of law (in other words, on grounds of illegality). Clause 7(1) states baldly that "No court may entertain proceedings for questioning (whether by way of judicial review or otherwise) any decision of the DPP for Northern Ireland in relation to the issue of a certificate under section 1" and clause 7(2) states explicitly that this prevents a court from hearing any challenge on grounds of lack of jurisdiction or error of law.

This is the first time that the Government has included such a sweeping ouster clause in a Bill since the ouster clause contained in the Asylum and Immigration Bill of 2004 as introduced. This Committee's predecessor was very critical of that clause in a number of reports on that Bill. The Government withdrew the clause in the face of overwhelming parliamentary opposition.

Q4. What is the Government's justification for proposing such a wide statutory ouster of the courts' jurisdiction to review the legality of a delegated decision?

Q5. Please explain why in the Government's view it is compatible with the rule of law to legislate to prevent any court from considering whether a delegated decision-maker has acted without jurisdiction or on the basis of an error of law.

(4) Equal opportunity of defence and prosecution to challenge jurors

The Committee is considering whether the Bill introduces an inequality between the defence and the prosecution in their respective opportunities to challenge jurors.

The Explanatory Notes state that Article 6 ECHR does not confer a right to access information pertaining to jurors. However, the principle of "equality of arms" which is inherent in the ECHR concept of a fair trial requires that no party is placed at a substantial disadvantage compared to other parties to the proceedings. As the Explanatory Notes make clear, in certain circumstances the police will be permitted to carry out additional juror checks.[132] However, the Notes state that there will be no inequality of arms between the parties because it is intended that such checks will be carried out by police not connected to the prosecution and that the Attorney-General will issue guidelines to strictly limit the occasions when such additional checks can be undertaken.

Q6. Will a draft of the Attorney General's proposed guidelines be made available while the Bill is still before Parliament? If not, what will be the likely content of those guidelines?

(5) Abolition of defence's right of peremptory challenge

The Committee is considering the Bill's abolition of the defendant's right of peremptory challenge.[133]

The Explanatory Notes state that the abolition of this right should not in principle compromise in any way the defendant's right to a fair trial, as the defendant will continue to enjoy adequate protection due to the retention of his right to challenge any juror for cause.[134] However, the Explanatory Notes do not provide any justification for the abolition of this right of peremptory challenge.

Q7. Please provide the justification for the abolition of the defendant's right of peremptory challenge. Why is it considered necessary to abolish the right in Northern Ireland but not in the rest of the UK?

The abolition of the right may also raise an issue of equality of arms. The Explanatory Notes refer to the Government's intention to counterbalance the abolition of the defendant's right by the introduction of restrictions, to be contained in Attorney-General's guidelines, on the exercise of the Crown's equivalent use of "stand-by".

Q8. Will a draft of the Attorney General's proposed guidelines be made available while the Bill is still before Parliament? If not, what will be the likely content of those guidelines in this respect?

(6) The powers of the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission

The Committee is considering the Bill's provisions in relation to the powers of the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission ("NIHRC"). The previous JCHR took a close interest in the adequacy of the NIHRC's powers to promote and protect human rights in Northern Ireland, reporting on the subject in Session 2002-03.[135] In its final report of the 2001-2005 Parliament, that Committee recorded its "profound dissatisfaction" that it had taken the Government so long to respond to the NIHRC's review of its powers.[136] The Committee also discussed this question with the NIHRC on its recent visit to Belfast.

The new powers to compel evidence under Clause 14 and to access places of detention under Clause 15 are subject to a number of restrictions and conditions. The Explanatory Notes (paragraph 8) describe these as safeguards to help ensure that the powers are used appropriately by the Commission and complied with by public authorities. In its Response to Consultation document, the Government also says that, in relation to the power to compel evidence, it will ensure that the human rights of those who might be placed in danger from the release of evidence are adequately protected.[137]

When the Committee visited Belfast recently, before the publication of the Bill, the NIHRC appeared content with the proposal to enhance their powers in the three respects provided for in the bill. From informal contacts with the NIHRC since publication of the bill, however, it is understood that they now have serious concerns about the restrictions contained in the bill on the exercise of the powers to compel evidence and to access places of detention. We have therefore written formally to NIHRC asking them to set out any concerns they have about the restrictions placed on the new powers set out in the bill, and whether they would wish to see other powers which they have recommended included in the bill.

Q9. Please provide further justification of the restrictions placed on the NIHRC's proposed powers to compel evidence and to access places of detention.

Q10. Please provide the Government's assessment of whether the power to access places of detention as set out in the bill is sufficient to enable the NIHRC to be part of the UK's National Preventive Mechanism under OPCAT.

(7) Miscellaneous additional powers for the police and the military

The Committee is considering the Bill's provision of additional powers to stop and question and of arrest, entry, search and seizure for the police and military, which raise issues of compatibility with the right to liberty in Article 5 ECHR and the right to respect for private, family life and home in Article 8 ECHR.

(a) Duration of stop and question

The Bill provides the police and members of the armed forces on duty with the power to stop a person "for so long as is necessary" to question him to ascertain his identity and movements.[138] Members of the armed forces are also given a power to stop a person "for so long as is necessary" to question him to ascertain what he knows about a recent explosion or another recent incident endangering life, or about a person killed or injured in a recent explosion or incident.[139]

The Explanatory Notes state that this power does not engage the right to liberty in Article 5 ECHR because it involves stopping a person for a relatively short time in order to question, which does not amount to a deprivation of liberty.[140] However, the wording of this power to stop and question contains nothing on its face which limits the amount of time for which a person can be stopped. On the contrary, it authorises stopping a person for so long as is necessary to question him to ascertain certain facts. There is no objective standard on the face of the provision to constrain the very wide power.

Q11. Why is the power to stop and question not expressed in terms of the amount of time that is reasonably necessary?

(b) Information on arrest

The Bill provides a member of the armed forces with a power to arrest and detain a person for up to four hours if he or she suspects that the person is committing, has committed or is about to commit any offence.[141] A member of the armed forces making such an arrest is deemed to comply with any rule of law requiring him to state the ground of arrest if he states that he is making the arrest as a member of Her Majesty's forces,[142] unless the rule of law requiring him to state the ground of arrest "has effect only by virtue of the Human Rights Act 1998."[143]

The Explanatory Notes explain that the purpose of the power is to allow sufficient time for a police officer to attend in order to re-arrest the person and charge them with an offence, if appropriate.[144] The reason for not requiring them to provide detailed legal grounds for arrest is said to be that "they are not expected to know the law as intimately as a police constable."

The effect of the Bill appears to be to disapply s. 28(3) PACE for the purposes of this particular power of arrest, but to leave the requirements of Article 5(2) ECHR in place. Since the requirements of Article 5(2) have been elaborated in judgments of the Court interpreting the standard contained in that Article, it is questionable whether the provisions of the Bill provide enough guidance to members of the armed forces about what type of information they must provide on arresting somebody and when they must provide it.

Q12. What is the precise justification for not requiring a member of the armed forces to state the grounds for arrest when exercising this power?

Q13. Bearing in mind that the member of the armed forces must suspect that the person arrested has committed, was committing or was about to commit an offence, why should the arresting officer not be required at the very least to inform the detainee of the facts which are the foundation of the decision to detain, and asked whether he admits or denies the allegations?

(c) Breadth of power of entry of premises

The Bill provides the police or a member of the armed forces with a power to enter premises (including a vehicle) without a warrant, if he or she "considers it necessary in the course of operations for the preservation of the peace or the maintenance of order."[145] A police officer requires authorisation from an officer of at least the rank of superintendent, unless it is not reasonably practicable to obtain such authorisation. The power to enter premises without a warrant is very broadly worded and contains no objective standard.

Q14. Why is the power of entry not at least expressed in objective terms, such as where the police officer or member of the armed services reasonably considers it necessary?

(d) Detention during search of premises

The Bill provides the police or members of the armed forces with a power to enter and search premises to ascertain if there are munitions unlawfully on the premises or wireless apparatus on the premises where there is a reasonable suspicion that such items are present.[146] The Bill gives the officer carrying out such a search the power to require a person to remain on the premises for up to four hours, extendable to 8 hours in total, if he reasonably believes it necessary in order to carry out the search or prevent it from being frustrated.[147]

The Explanatory Notes acknowledge that this power could be used in such a way as to engage Article 5 ECHR, because in theory the requirement to remain on the premises could last for up to 8 hours.[148] However, they state that in practice individuals would be allowed to leave the premises or move around them subject to some restrictions and for a much shorter time, and that guidance will be issued to police and the armed forces on the appropriate use of this power so as to ensure that these powers are not exercised in a way that engages Article 5.

Requiring a person to remain on premises for up to 8 hours during the conduct of a search of those premises is clearly capable of amounting to a deprivation of liberty for the purposes of Article 5. The Committee has frequently commented that conferring a power of this width, which is capable of interfering with the right to liberty, and leaving it to as yet unpublished guidance to regulate the use of that power so as to avoid incompatibility, is not satisfactory, because it deprives the Committee, and Parliament, of the opportunity to subject the scope of the power to the careful scrutiny its subject matter demands.

Q15. Which of the enumerated exceptions to the right to liberty in Article 5 does the Government rely on in cases where the exercise of this power amounts to a deprivation of liberty?

Q16. Will the Government make available in draft form while the Bill is still before Parliament the guidance on which it intends to rely to ensure that the power is not exercised incompatibly with Article 5?

I would be grateful for your response by 19 January 2007.

Appendix 1c: Letter from the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission, re Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill

1. The Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission (the Commission) is a statutory body created by the Northern Ireland Act 1998. It has a range of functions including reviewing the adequacy and effectiveness of Northern Ireland law and practice relating to the protection of human rights,[149] advising on legislative and other measures which ought to be taken to protect human rights,[150] advising on whether a Bill is compatible with human rights[151] and promoting understanding and awareness of the importance of human rights in Northern Ireland.[152] In all of that work the Commission bases its positions on the full range of internationally accepted human rights standards, including the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), other treaty obligations in the Council of Europe and United Nations systems, and the non-binding 'soft law' standards developed by the human rights bodies.

2. The Commission has submitted a separate Parliamentary briefing on clauses 13-19 of the Bill, which concern the powers and functions of the Commission. For ease of reference that briefing (also available on the website of the Public Bill Committee) is appended to the present paper, which is provided to and at the request of the Joint Committee on Human Rights and deals with the remainder of the Bill. It is important to note that given, firstly, the fact that the Commission was not given sight of any of the proposed wording prior to the Bill's publication, and secondly, the great haste with which the Bill is proceeding through the Public Bill Committee, this briefing addresses the Bill as introduced and does not take account of any amendments that may have been made, or points raised, in Committee.

3. The Commission has always taken a particular interest in the provisions of anti-terrorist legislation applicable within Northern Ireland and across the United Kingdom. The Commission has consistently asserted that terrorism should, so far as possible, be dealt with within 'ordinary' criminal justice provisions. Being itself a creation of a peace process that requires to be underpinned with extensive legislative and policy initiatives promoting normalisation and stability, the Commission has also repeatedly called for the lapsing or repeal of emergency measures and special powers, including those relating to non-jury trials and the extra powers of police and the armed forces. The position of the Commission has always been that exceptional measures can only be justified for so long as, and to the extent that, they respond to the exigencies of the situation.

4. It has for some time been apparent that, however imperfect the workings of the democratic institutions envisaged by the 1998 Agreement, the security situation has improved greatly, to the extent that few observers would claim to discern the existence of 'an emergency threatening the life of the nation' (the term employed in relevant international human rights instruments). There must, accordingly, be a strong presumption in favour of normalisation, and a corresponding duty on Government to make a persuasive case for any departure in legislation for Northern Ireland from the arrangements that are held to be appropriate for other UK jurisdictions.

5. The Commission's interest in the Bill therefore goes beyond clauses 13-19, notwithstanding their implications for the way in which the Commission operates, the powers that it has and what that means for the promotion and protection of human rights in the region. This paper concentrates on those aspects of the Bill relating to juries (clauses 1-12) and the powers of the armed forces operating in Northern Ireland (principally clauses 20-27).

Juries and non-jury trial

6. This Commission has previously advocated a reform of the Diplock court system in favour of the presumption of jury trial. The Commission's position has been and remains that there should be a presumption in favour of a single mode of trial on indictment in Northern Ireland as in other UK jurisdictions, with that being trial by jury. Any departure from trial by jury should require to be justified by demonstrating the presence of exceptional circumstances that must be clearly legislated for, so as to ensure that non-jury trials are indeed the exception rather than the norm. The Commission acknowledges that the risks of perverse verdicts and intimidation of jurors need to be dealt with in order to move to a presumption of trial by jury. It has stated elsewhere and maintains, however, that provided certain safeguards are put in place to deal with these risks it is possible to abandon the Diplock Court system without further delay.

7. For example, it has recommended that in order to reduce the risk of perverse verdicts, legislation ought to be enacted to take away the right to peremptorily challenge jurors and to stand by. It notes that this particular recommendation is now included, only in part, in clause 12 of the Bill. As clause 12 stands the right to peremptory challenge of jurors has been taken away from the defence but it would appear that the prosecution will retain the right to request that the Court order members of the jury to stand by. The Commission believes that if the right to peremptory challenge is to be abolished this should be accompanied by the abolition of the use of stand-by. At present the Bill, by only removing the right from the defendant, is weighted too heavily in favour of the prosecution and this runs counter to the fundamental principle of equality of arms.

8. The Commission has made a number of recommendations to address the risk of jury intimidation, some of which have also been included in the Bill, for example by certain restrictions on disclosure of juror information under clause 8.

9. Despite the positive address of some of these recommendations, the Bill continues to be unsatisfactory. As the Bill stands, the Director of Public Prosecutions for Northern Ireland (DPP) may issue a certificate that any trial on indictment of the defendant (and of any person committed for trial with the defendant) is to be conducted without a jury, provided that at least one of four conditions stipulated in the Bill are met. He may do so on the basis that he is satisfied that in the presence of one of these conditions there is a risk that the administration of justice might be impaired if the trial were to be conducted with a jury.

10. This terminology departs too radically from the non-jury provisions of Section 44 of the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Under that Act a trial without jury is permitted where there is "evidence of a real and present danger that jury tampering would take place" and that "notwithstanding any steps (including the provision of police protection) which might reasonably be taken to prevent jury tampering, the likelihood that it would take place would be so substantial as to make it necessary in the interests of justice for the trial to be conducted without a jury" [all italics added]. It further requires the prosecution to apply to a judge of the Crown Court for the trial to be conducted without a jury.

11. In contrast the Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill simply requires the DPP to be "satisfied" that there is "a risk" that the "administration of justice" might be impaired. It is of concern that under the Bill, no explanation or indication is given as to the precise nature of the impairment that each condition stipulated under clause 1 addresses; for example, whether it is jury tampering or the return of a perverse verdict that would present the risk of impairing the administration of justice should the DPP find that Condition 1 were met in a particular case.

12. In any case the Commission believes this threshold of satisfaction along with a belief of possible impairment to the administration of justice to be too low. It therefore recommends that "satisfied" is replaced with a requirement that there exists a "real and present danger" that the "interests of justice" would be "seriously frustrated" if the trial were to be heard with a jury before a certificate for non-jury trial can be issued. That would ensure that the legislation at least in this part would better complement the provisions of the Criminal Justice Act 2003.

13. The Commission also maintains its previous assertion, made in October 2006, that just as under the Criminal Justice Act 2003 reform of the Diplock courts in Northern Ireland should require the DPP in Northern Ireland to apply to the Courts for a certificate for non-jury trial. It is inappropriate that this Bill allows the DPP considerable discretion in the issuing of a certificate for a non-jury trial, in essence permitting one party to a contest to choose the mode of adjudication.

14. Overall, it appears to the Commission that given the low thresholds to be met by the DPP, along with the extremely broad nature of the conditions stipulated in clause 1, the Bill as introduced does not offer any real prospect of substantially reducing the incidence of non-jury trials in Northern Ireland, and it may even lay the ground for an increase.

15. The conditions set out in clause 1 are too broad and arbitrary to be used by the DPP (either as the designated authority to issue the certificate himself or even to apply to the Crown Court for the certificate) as appropriate and meaningful evidence that a jury would be unable to administer justice.

16. Condition 1 is where the defendant is or has at any time been an associate of a person who is, or who has at any time been a member of a proscribed organisation. 'Associate' is defined broadly in the Bill and it is indicated in subsection 10 that a person (A) is the associate of another person (B) if A is a friend, relative, spouse, ex-spouse, partner, ex-partner, cohabitee or former cohabitee of B.

17. Condition 2 under which the DPP can issue a certificate is that the offence or any of the offences was committed on behalf of a proscribed organisation, or a proscribed organisation was otherwise involved with, or assisted in, the carrying out of the offence or any of the offences.

18. Condition 3 is where an attempt has been made to prejudice the investigation or prosecution of the offence or any of the offences and the attempt was made on behalf of a proscribed organisation, or a proscribed organisation was otherwise involved with, or assisted in, the attempt.

19. Condition 4 is that the offence was committed to any extent (whether directly or indirectly) as a result of, in connection with or in response to religious or political hostility of one person or group of persons towards another person or group of persons.

20. The first condition is extremely problematic. The Commission questions how friendship, being such a subjective concept, can possibly be an appropriate criterion in the context of legislation? What evidence, length or level of association, depth of affection, intimacy of relations or frequency of meetings might the DPP, or indeed even the Courts rely on to decide that a friendship exists or has existed? The inclusion of 'relative' gives even greater cause for concern. How far down the line of genealogy will the DPP go to ascertain if a threat to the administration of justice exists on the basis of that relationship? Subsection 10 already lists more tangible ties by including spouse, former spouse, civil partners and former civil partners. This further addition of 'friend' or 'relative' makes the provisions too broad to ensure that non-jury trials are used sparingly.

21. This condition potentially discriminates against defendants who happen to be relatives of members of proscribed organisations by accident of birth and not through any designed, conscious decision to associate with such persons. In effect, whether or not a person has access to the normal or the abnormal mode of trial is to be determined by the past behaviour of other persons, over whose actions the defendant may never have had any influence. On the face of it, it would suffice to have a cousin who had been in a proscribed organisation for a few months even before the defendant was born. However much one might expect or hope for a more reasonable application, it is unsatisfactory to provide in the letter of the law so great a scope for unreasonableness, in a context where no appeal lies against the DPP's decision.

22. The Commission assumes, although this is not made specific in the Bill, that Condition 1 is designed to address the risk of jury tampering. Government's concern here might be that where there is a tie of friendship or relationship with a member of the proscribed organisation that tie could be used by the defendant to initiate intimidation of jurors by members of the proscribed organisation. That particular logic, however, is dangerous and it makes presumptions about the intended actions of the defendant, possibly discriminating against him/her before any crime in relation to jury tampering has been committed by denying the defendant the trial by jury that would be available to other persons who did not have, or were not known to have, such connections.

23. That position also engages the UK's obligations under Article 6(1) of the European Convention on Human Rights when taken with Article 14 (the non-discrimination clause). Article 14 prohibits discrimination in the protection of the Conventions rights on grounds of, "sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status". There must be a strong probability that the Convention would be breached, and it would certainly be engaged, by the state prosecutor deciding on the involuntary insertion of a defendant into an abnormal mode of trial, on such a basis as having been born into a family one of whose members had at some time broken a particular law.

24. Similarly, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), to which the UK is also a party, enshrines the right to a fair trial under Article 9 and in addition prohibits discrimination on grounds of birth or other status under Article 2(1). The issues for compliance with the ICCPR are similar to those for the European Convention.

25. Thus, denying trial by jury to those individuals who happen to be born into a particular family, to have married or entered into a relationship with a particular individual, or indeed to have lived in a particular geographical area where they would be more likely to have an association (even unwitting or inadvertent) with a member of a proscribed organisation that might be perceived as a friendship, could potentially lead to the state being found to have breached major international human rights standards by which it has agreed to be bound.

26. Of all the Conditions stipulated in the Bill it is only Condition 3 that outlines the presence of circumstances that suggest the prospect of jury tampering (or, in this instance, other direct interference with the course of justice) is real. Even then however, it does not put the same onus on the relevant criminal justice agencies as does the Criminal Justice Act 2003 to take every reasonable step to protect jurors. The Commission believes it is necessary that the same onus is stipulated in the Bill under discussion.

27. Even more problematically Conditions 1 and 2 appear to be making blanket assumptions that any tie or association with member of a proscribed organisation, or personal involvement past or present in such a group, of itself and without any other evidence is likely to give rise to jury tampering. The Commission's view is that these Conditions will in fact lead to an unacceptably large number of cases being heard without a jury on the basis of assumptions rather than strong evidence that this mode of trial would not be appropriate in a particular case. The Commission therefore recommends that the legislation be restricted to ensuring that the DPP considers the facts of the case before him, the nature of the crime, the defendant's actual ability to cause jurors to be intimidated and the likelihood of that happening even after all reasonable steps have been taken to prevent the possibility of jury tampering; and then, to put the relevant evidence to a judge of the Crown Court to decide ultimately whether the case will be heard in the presence or absence of a jury.

28. Condition 4 would seem to be referring, among other things, to cases of sectarianism even where a proscribed organisation is not directly or indirectly involved. The Commission assumes, although again this is not made clear in the Bill, that Government believes that both the defendant and victim(s) need to be protected from the possibility of the return of a perverse verdict in such cases. It would appear that this provision in the Bill may be addressing the very real problem of sectarianism that still persists in Northern Ireland at a scale not mirrored in Great Britain. The Commission accepts that despite the peace process, sectarianism remains an unfortunate reality of life here and that prejudices along sectarian lines remain deeply ingrained.

29. However, as it stands Condition 4 is too broad. It does not specify that the concern with regard to religious and political hostility is indeed sectarianism as it is manifested in Northern Ireland, and moreover sectarianism displayed in a criminal way at a time when community tensions and divisions are running particularly high. It does not therefore limit the DPP sufficiently to having to prove that given the presumed sectarian motivation of the offence, and given the immediate political and social climate of the time with regards to community divisions, the case could not be left to be decided by a jury. The DPP simply has to be satisfied that justice might be impaired, where political or religious hostility has been engaged.

30. This omission means that many of those accused under the Criminal Justice (No. 2) (NI) Order 2004 could be tried without a jury. It may therefore be used so that a case involving Islamophobia or antisemitism, for example, could also be heard without a jury. Criminal offences that appear to be motivated by political hostility towards the Government or towards any group of persons, even where there is no connection to the affairs of Northern Ireland, may equally fall under Condition 4. This potential to broaden out the number of cases that could be heard without a jury to areas that are not specific to the conflict in Northern Ireland does not respond to any identifiable need to deviate from the principle of normalisation, and is not acceptable.

31. The Commission is also concerned about subsection 9 of clause 1 under which a proscribed organisation for the purposes of the proposed legislation will mean an organisation which is proscribed or which has at any time been proscribed and whose activities are (or were at the time of membership) connected with the affairs of Northern Ireland. That would, at first sight, suggest those organisations traditionally associated with the particular circumstances of Northern Ireland, that is those following a republican or loyalist agenda in the context of this region. However, other proscribed groups, such as those proscribed for 'glorifying terrorism' (The Saved Sect and Al Guraaba), who call for the instatement of an 'Islamic' regime in the UK could at some future point be engaged in the remit of the Bill. It could be argued that their calls are indeed connected with the affairs of Northern Ireland, in the sense that their political agenda is not limited to Great Britain.

32. Indeed, the Secretary of State, during the second reading of the Bill on 13 December 2006, stated: "Northern Ireland continues to be a challenging operating environment for the police and the Army, not least because the risk of terrorism from dissident republicans, loyalists and international groups remains real".[153] The reference to "international groups" would seem to indicate that Government does envisage the Bill being used in the context of international terrorism. That makes the conditions under which the DPP can issue a certificate for non-jury trial even broader and even less acceptable.

33. If it is the case that Government also had the threat of international groups in mind when drafting this legislation, then could that threat of international terrorism be used to justify in Great Britain, as well as Northern Ireland, non-jury trials and extra powers for the armed forces over and above those currently available? We have not had even an unsupported assertion by Government, much less any evidence in the public domain, to suggest that the threat of international terrorism exists to such a degree as to make such measures justifiable in Great Britain. We have, however, had Government acknowledge that the threat from international groups is lower in Northern Ireland than in Great Britain, and lower than that presented by republican and loyalist groups. It is thus of concern that the Secretary of State has added it to his list of concerns in the Northern Ireland context in an attempt to make the provisions more justifiable here. The current situation in Northern Ireland, with or without the threat from international groups, does not justify the existence of two criminal justice systems.

34. If enacted the Bill would perpetuate two criminal justice systems in Northern Ireland, with the inevitable charge of inequality under the law that such duality invites. It would essentially mean that provisions relating to non-jury trials that are not deemed acceptable in Great Britain are legislated for in Northern Ireland. While we acknowledge that the quasi-federal nature of the state does permit some differentiation, a general principle of the human rights law to which the state accedes as one unit is that the human rights of everyone within the state should be afforded the same degree of protection. Thus, for example, Article 26 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights establishes that "All persons are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to the equal protection of the law. In this respect, the law shall prohibit any discrimination and guarantee to all persons equal and effective protection against discrimination on any ground such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status."

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35. There are striking similarities between certain provisions in the proposed Bill and those under Part 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000, which the Commission believes are not required in Northern Ireland at this time and indeed which were due to come to an end in April 2008 at the latest. The powers of stopping and questioning, arrest, entry and search will still remain with members of the armed forces operating in Northern Ireland along with police officers. The availability of such powers to the armed forces potentially engages Articles 2, 3 and 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights.

36. No state subject to the rule of law would regard it as normal that a member of its armed forces should, for example, be empowered to enter any private premises if he or she thought it necessary "for the preservation of the peace"; nor that a soldier might arrest a person on the mere suspicion that the person was about to commit an offence, with no requirement to give any reason than saying "I am arresting you as a member of Her Majesty's forces". These are, beyond any doubt, extraordinary powers, of a kind that a state should require only in the most exceptional emergencies. When Parliament considers whether to make new law putting such powers in a statute without limit of time, it must demand of the Government a most thorough and persuasive case as to why the powers are required. Powers of this kind are not currently used or needed by the Army in Northern Ireland, and Operation Banner, its deployment in support of the police in public order and counter-terrorism, is on the point of coming to an end.

37. The Commission cannot accept that the continuation of such powers is in line with normalisation in Northern Ireland. It is concerned that they will continue to be available to the armed forces, particularly in the absence of any meaningful level of independent investigation, scrutiny and accountability such as has been developed in relation to policing. The experience in Northern Ireland has been that the use of special powers have not prevented many of the atrocities that have been carried out by non-state actors in the region. They have in some instances been counterproductive to the stated goal of restoring law and order, and indeed have been used in ways that have been found to have violated human rights. The availability of these powers, whether they are used or not, will do little to create public confidence that Northern Ireland is indeed moving on from conflict and into normalisation.

38. If a situation were to arise in Northern Ireland, or indeed in Great Britain, requiring the deployment of the armed forces with quasi-policing powers, such powers could be made available through emergency provisions that were in place for a strictly limited period.

39. This Bill will essentially make permanent what was initially intended to be a number of temporary, emergency provisions for Northern Ireland. Clause 40 allows for the Secretary of State to repeal the provisions by order, but there is no 'sunset' clause which would automatically require the Secretary of State to go to Parliament to renew the powers after a stated date.

40. The Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill represents, overall, a failure to deliver what Government had previously promised in terms of a programme of normalisation in the region. The Bill instead offers to provide in permanent legislation for non-jury trials and exceptional powers that hitherto were envisaged as temporary responses to a particularly grave emergency that, quite plainly, no longer exists.

Appendix 1d: Letter dated 22 January 2007 from Paul Goggins MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Northern Ireland, re Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill

Thank you for your letter to the Secretary of State about the Justice and Security (Northern Ireland) Bill. As Minister responsible for the Bill, the Secretary of State has asked me to reply. Your letter asked a number of detailed questions about aspects of the Bill. I shall reply to each question in turn.

Q1 - Please provide a more detailed justification of the need for the new power, including up to date evidence of the incidence of juror intimidation in Northern Ireland compared to the rest of the UK, and an explanation of why the other measures in the Bill to reduce the risk of jury intimidation are not considered by the Government to be adequate.

Given the restrictions on enquiring into what goes on inside the jury room it is difficult to gain a true picture of the scale of jury tampering and perverse verdicts in Northern Ireland. What is clear is that for the last 35 years many of the most serious cases in Northern Ireland have been tried in the Crown Court without a jury.

The police only have intelligence of eleven cases where jury tampering has been reported since 1999. However, seven of these have occurred between 2004 and 2006 and seven of the eleven involved persons with paramilitary connections. From talking to practitioners within the system I am aware of many more anecdotal examples where there appears to have been intimidation in a case and one recent case where a trial collapsed as a result of jury-tampering. Obviously, I cannot comment on the latter in any detail.

Paramilitaries continue to maintain control over communities in what is still very much a divided society. In their Seventh Report on paramilitary activity in Northern Ireland (published in October 2005) the Independent Monitoring Commission (IMC) concluded that "Paramilitaries sometimes use violence within those communities, sometimes threats and intimidation… Activities of this kind go hand in hand with unofficial forms of control." They have not contradicted this view in subsequent reports. It is therefore those cases that have been tried without a jury under the Diplock system that would be most vulnerable to intimidation of jurors were alternative arrangements not put in place.

It is therefore helpful to look at information about the prevalence of intimidation more generally. Although there is not an absolute read-across between intimidation of victims and witnesses and that of jurors it is fair to assume that the same tactics would be used if there were jury trial in all cases and it provides a broad indicator of trends.

Intimidation of witnesses appears to be an increasing problem. PSNI recorded 29 instances of witness intimidation in 2001/02 and 74 in 2004/05, with two instances of threats to harm a witness. However, the Northern Ireland Crime Survey in 2003/04 (the most recent year for which I have figures) revealed that intimidation is a significantly under-reported offence. Only half of all cases of intimidation or harassment are reported to the police. Around 7% of victims of criminal offences have experienced harassment or intimidation, and this has mainly come from the person who committed the offence.

Intimidation is therefore still a significant problem in Northern Ireland, despite the recent improvements in the security situation. It poses a significant risk to the ability of the criminal justice system to deliver fair trials in certain cases. Money appears to be used in many cases as an incentive to encourage jurors to reach a particular verdict (six of the eleven cases mentioned above). Blackmail and intimidation seem to be used if financial motivators do not have the desired effect. Intimidation already occurs in (among others) assault, murder and attempted murder cases, (all of which are scheduled offences that can currently be tried without a jury). If these patterns of incidents continue, it is clear that significant numbers of such cases relating to paramilitaries will continue to go through the criminal justice system when the alleged perpetrators are prosecuted.

The perception that intimidation occurs also represents a serious risk to the delivery of high quality justice via jury trial (and this was recognised in the Diplock report, which acknowledged that 'a frightened juror is a bad juror, even though his own safety and that of his family may not actually be at risk'). The close-knit nature of Northern Ireland society means that individuals are known within their communities. Even when jurors do not personally know a defendant, they could live within a threatening environment and fear that they could become targeted by associates of the defendant. This less overt form of intimidation and the fear of intimidation could potentially be as significant for jurors as the actual acts of intimidation described above.

Many of the juror protection measures in this Bill should not only reduce the scope for jurors to be intimidated but should also help to reduce this fear. For example, balloting jurors by number and restricting access to information about jurors should increase feelings of safety and make it more difficult for individual jurors to be intimidated. However, it does not prevent a juror being recognised by the defendant or his associates if the juror is known to them. Screening of jurors from the public gallery and separate juror accommodation reduce this problem still further, but does not prevent a juror being recognised by the defendant during the trial, or when entering or leaving the court building.

Out of town juries are less likely to be susceptible to intimidation, but in a small jurisdiction like Northern Ireland a notable risk still remains. The police could take action to protect jurors and their families in the way that significant and vulnerable witnesses can be protected in certain cases. However, for this to be effective it would involve significant disruption to the life of the juror and their family - it would involve changes of home, school and employment. In extreme cases, it could mean leaving Northern Ireland. I think that members of the public would consider this too high a price to pay for serving on a jury and it would have a very negative impact on confidence in the justice system.

The security assessment I have received from PSNI (and the IMC have reported in similar terms) is that this context of paramilitary control of communities, intimidation and fear of intimidation is expected to continue for the time being. Dissident republicans remain the most significant threat to the security forces, and continue to plan for future attacks. They generally continue to use violence as a means of settling internal disputes and imposing discipline, and in an effort to exert control within local communities. The INLA have maintained a military campaign and have been involved in public order situations in 2005. Such situations indicate that INLA are prepared to respond violently to police activity, particularly when it is directed against their organised crime operations. Loyalist paramilitaries continue to pose a threat to members of the security forces.

Levels of paramilitary linked incidents have decreased significantly since 2000 but they remain common. Paramilitary linked shootings incidents are down 10% in 2005 compared to 2004 while bombings have risen 28% over the same period. The rise in bombing incidents is largely due to both Loyalist and Dissident Republican paramilitaries carrying out attacks on security forces during public order situations in the Belfast area during July and September 2005.

It is important to recognise that intimidation of victims and witnesses, perverse verdicts and juror intimidation are only likely to happen in a minority of cases. It is, however, significant enough to pose a risk to the safety of those members of the public who participate in the system as jurors or witnesses. Returning to jury trial in all cases is likely to increase the occurrence of juror coercion and the fear of intimidation felt by jurors. Government and the criminal justice agencies in Northern Ireland could be in breach of their obligations to ensure the safety and security of all those in Northern Ireland if this risk is not addressed.

Q2 - To assist the Committee's consideration of whether the width of the power to certify constitutes a justifiable interference with a person's freedom of association and right to respect for their private and family life, please provide a more detailed justification for applying the power to certify to people who are 'associates' of members or former members of proscribed organisations.

The security assessment I have received is that members of paramilitary groups do attempt to intimidate witnesses and jurors in cases where close friends or family members are the defendant in order to secure acquittals. This provision is designed to deal with that problem. It also applies to former members of paramilitary groups as these individuals may retain positions of power within their communities as a result of their former status. Again, the security assessment I have received is that former members of paramilitary groups continue to use intimidator tactics to retain control over communities and attempt to use this to secure acquittals in certain cases.

It is important to note that a connection with a member or former member of a paramilitary group would not be enough on its own to justify a decision for non-jury trial in a case. The DPP would need to make a judgement, in the round, of the risks to the administration of justice posed by such a case. If the risks were low, then the defendant would be tried in the Crown Court with a jury. Summary cases would continue to be tried in the magistrates' court with no special arrangements.

Q3 - What safeguards are contemplated to guard against the risk of the power being abused?

The DPP's decision is one of mode of trial only. The DPP in Northern Ireland already makes such decisions (for example, whether certain offences should be tried summarily before a magistrate or on indictment in the Crown Court). As is the case at present, the defendant will be able to make representations to the DPP about the mode of trial decision. The DPP can take those into account in his decision-making, or can vary his decision at a later stage on foot of the representations received.

Unlike Diplock, no special rules of evidence or sentencing will apply in non-jury trials under the Bill. The sole difference will be whether the case is tried before a jury or by a judge sitting alone. In either case the court will remain the ultimate arbiter of guilt or innocence.

Where the case is tried by a judge sitting alone and there is a conviction, the judge must give a reasoned verdict (under the current Diplock system judges also often give reasons for acquittals but I do not think it appropriate to require this in all cases given the risks that such a judgment could interfere with the presumption of innocence in a case or damage the reputation of victims or witnesses).

It will also be possible to appeal conviction or sentence from a non-jury trial without the need to seek leave of the court first.

I am satisfied that these safeguards provide adequate protection to the defendant in the case and ensure that defendants will suffer no detriment from being tried without a jury.

Q4 - What is the Government's justification for proposing such a wide statutory ouster of the courts' jurisdiction to review the legality of a delegated decision?

The restrictions on challenge to the DPP's decision for non-jury trial in the Bill are intended to put the current caselaw on challenges to the Attorney General's decision whether or not to deschedule a case on a statutory footing. In In Shuker and Others [2004 NI 367] the High Court in Northern Ireland considered a challenge of the Attorney General's decision not to certify a case for jury trial (under the Diplock system, the default is non-jury trial for specified offences, but the Attorney General has the power to decide mode of trial by certifying a case into jury trial, a process known as de-scheduling). The court ruled that the procedure for determining mode of trial of the accused is not a process suitable for the full panoply of judicial review. Judicial review would be possible, however, on grounds such as bad faith, dishonesty or other exceptional circumstances.

The restriction also has to be seen in the context of the nature of the DPP's decision. The DPP's decision is one of mode of trial only. He already takes decisions that result in a case being tried summarily or on indictment. The consequence of this decision is that in certain circumstances a defendant can be diverted to a form of trial that is every bit as fair as jury trial, but one which is free from the risk of injustice caused by partisan verdicts of juror intimidation.

To allow every decision of the DPP to be challenged would result in a very considerable delay - which itself undermines justice - in order to argue over issues that are not even relevant to the subject matter of the indictment. This would be wasteful of the limited resources available to the criminal justice system and would act to damage public confidence. It may also result in cases that are not safe to be tried before a jury having to be because the intelligence on which the Director's decision is based could not be disclosed.

Q5 - Please explain why in the Government's view it is compatible with the rule of law to legislate to prevent any court from considering whether a delegated decision-maker has acted without jurisdiction or on the basis of an error of law.

I am not seeking to exclude judicial review altogether: my intent is to put the caselaw in Shuker on a statutory footing, and to allow limited challenges to the issue of a certificate under clause 1(2) as set out in my response to Question 4 above. The judgment in Shuker does not suggest that the rule of law is compromised where at least limited challenge is allowed.

During Commons Committee stage on the Bill there was considerable discussion on this clause. Whilst I remain committed to the principle behind clause 7, in light of the comments made during the debate I undertook to reflect further on the wording of the clause before Report stage. I will write to the Committee again with the outcome of that process.

Q6 - Will a draft of the Attorney General's proposed guidelines [additional juror checks] be made available while the Bill is still before Parliament? If not, what will be the likely content of those guidelines?

I understand that the Attorney General's guidelines will be in line with those that apply in England and Wales. Additional juror checks will only be possible in cases relating to national security or terrorism. I have attached a copy of the Attorney General's current England and Wales guidelines at Appendix 1 to this letter.

In relation to the guidelines on challenge, the restrictions on access to juror information will apply to both the defence and the prosecution. It is considered that the fear of intimidation felt by jurors is exacerbated by the fact that the current system permits their personal details to be known, particularly to the defence. Indeed, Lord Carlile of Berriew QC indicated that it would provide considerable reassurance for jurors, and would diminish the risk of jury intimidation and perverse verdicts, if they could attend court knowing that their details were unknown to the defence and their connections.

While total juror anonymity would carry some benefits, it was considered important to balance these against the risk that prohibiting access to juror information would inhibit the carrying out of additional juror checks by the police, which are themselves designed to reduce the risks of perverse verdicts and juror intimidation. As is the position already in England and Wales, there may be certain exceptional types of case of public importance where routine checks may not be sufficient to ensure the proper administration of justice. In such cases it is in the interests both of justice and the public that there should be further safeguards against the possibility of bias and in such cases checks which go beyond investigation of criminal records may be necessary.

As indicated previously, it is not considered that providing for additional jury checks in limited circumstances would confer any unfair advantage on the Crown, or subject the accused to any unfair disadvantage. Nonetheless, to allay any concerns over fairness and equality of arms, administrative guidelines prepared by the Attorney General will set out clearly the circumstances in which jury checks may be carried out by police not connected to the prosecution. The policy in relation to the guidelines on jury checks has yet to be settled, but at this stage it is anticipated that they will closely reflect those already in place in England and Wales.

Q7 - Please provide the justification for the abolition of the defendant's right of peremptory challenge. Why is it considered necessary to abolish the right in Northern Ireland but not in the rest of the UK?

The abolition of peremptory challenge is not peculiar to Northern Ireland. The defendant's right of peremptory challenge was abolished in England and Wales by the Criminal Justice Act 1988. The provisions in this Bill are therefore a normalising measure, bringing Northern Ireland into line with England and Wales.

The Contempt of Court Act 1981 prohibits the obtaining, disclosing or soliciting of any statements made or opinions expressed by members of a jury in the course of their deliberations. It is therefore difficult to obtain specific evidence in relation to partisan juries and factors influencing jurors' decisions. However, it is considered likely that, in a polarised society like Northern Ireland, there are jurors who may be influenced by their political and religious backgrounds in reaching a verdict. It is in this context that it is considered that the abolition of peremptory challenge is desirable, as it will limit the defendant's ability to 'pack a jury' and thereby reduce the risk of perverse verdicts.

In its response to the Diplock Review (2000) the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission called for the abolition of the peremptory challenge, arguing that such challenges pander to a stereotypical thinking and further entrench prejudice in Northern Ireland.

It is for these reasons that we seek to abolish peremptory challenge in criminal trials, while retaining challenge for cause only by both the prosecution and defence.

Q8 - Will a draft of the Attorney General's proposed guidelines [restriction of stand-by] be made available while the Bill is still before Parliament? If not, what will be the likely content of those guidelines in this respect?

I understand that the Attorney General's guidelines will be the same as those that currently apply in England and Wales. I have attached a copy of the Attorney General's current England and Wales guidelines at Appendix 1 to this letter.

As far as the issue of equality of arms is concerned, it is considered that any imbalance is acceptable and does not breach Article 6 human rights principles. The right to trial by jury in itself is not a guaranteed right. The prosecution are under a duty to act with absolute propriety in every case, and will only exercise their right of stand-by in future, where in accordance with the Attorney General's guidelines, information comes to light suggesting that a juror is not suitable for jury service. Both parties will retain the right to challenge for cause. It is considered that this arrangement best serves the requirements of the justice system.

Having considered carefully the equality of arms issue we concluded that to abolish this right should not, in principle, compromise in any way the defendant's right to a fair trial. Such rights as the defendant may enjoy in this respect will continue to have adequate protection in the perpetuation of his entitlement to challenge an unlimited number of jury panel members with cause and the diligent and impartial exercise by the trial judge of his supervisory duties. Moreover, in so far as any counterbalancing is required, this will surely be provided by the introduction of restrictions on the exercise by the Crown of its right to require jury panel members to 'stand by'. Even in the absence of significant restrictions on the exercise of this Crown right, the fairness of the trial should not be jeopardised for the reason provided by the Court of Appeal in Regina -v- McKinney viz, the obligation on the Crown to act with absolute propriety and the obligation of the court to intervene to ensure that appropriate standards of propriety are observed. This will obviously be reinforced still further if guidelines on the exercise of this right are promulgated.

Q9 - Please provide further justification of the restrictions placed on the NIHRC's proposed powers to compel evidence and to access places of detention.

This Bill extends new powers to the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission to compel evidence and access places of detention when carrying out investigations. The Government believes that it is right that the Commission has these new powers to allow it to carry out its investigations effectively. We have always been clear that the powers would be subject to proportionate safeguards to ensure that they are used appropriately by the Commission and complied with appropriately by public authorities.

The Commission's key function, for the purpose of which it can carry out investigations, is set out in Section 69 of the Northern Ireland Act 1998: to "keep under review the adequacy and effectiveness in Northern Ireland of law and practice relating to the protection of human rights". Compared with most public bodies with investigatory powers, this remit is very broad. It is the Government's view that, since the Commission's investigations can rightly range very widely and the new powers which it is to be granted are so significant, it is important that the powers are subject to appropriate safeguards on their use. There are many public bodies with responsibility for ensuring compliance with human rights law in specific parts of the public sector and it is not necessary for the Commission to duplicate the work of these bodies.

The power to access places of detention during an investigation will require no forewarning of the timing of each visit. The Government has concluded, however, that each investigation should be preceded by a 15 day period during which affected public authorities can appeal to the county court, if they believe the Commission's intention to access is unnecessary or unreasonable for the purpose of its investigation. The court will be able to order the Commission not to access the place of detention, or to place restrictions on the access. After 15 days if no appeal is made, or after an appeal has concluded if the court does not prevent the Commission from accessing a place, the Commission will have unrestricted access for the duration of the investigation. The place of detention will retain the right to appeal against an investigation at any stage but, after the initial 15 days, they can only restrict access after a court has ruled in their favour. It will be a criminal offence for a public authority to obstruct access, other than through this appeal process.

This appeal process parallels the right of appeal that applies when the Commission issues a notice compelling evidence; a right of appeal that is also present in the Equality Act setting out the powers of the Commission for Equality and Human Rights in GB. If there was no 15 day period for appeals at the beginning of the process, places of detention could feel under pressure to appeal all applications for access as soon as the Commission attempts to gain entry, without a proper consideration of whether each case is actually unnecessary or unreasonable.

I am advised that the Northern Ireland Prison Service has been subject to inspections and external reviews from seventeen different bodies since 2004. The particular expertise of the Commission should ensure that its investigations complement those of other bodies; but it is in the Government's view right that places of detention have the opportunity to suggest that an additional investigation is not necessary if it has only recently co-operated with an investigation by another body in very similar territory. It is also important to remember that the Commission are not an emergency response body. There are other bodies that are more appropriate to handle serious allegations which require immediate investigation. I am advised that any such serious allegations, for instance an allegation of assault, would be reported to the PSNI without delay.

The Commission will not be able to use the new power to compel evidence to seek information where its disclosure would have national security implications. This mirrors the arrangements that will be in place for the Commission for Equality and Human Rights, and the relevant provision is closely modelled on the provisions of the Equality Act 2006 in this area. Government is clear that national security must be afforded the same level of protection across the UK.

The power to compel evidence will also be focused on events after 1 January 2008 and information that is created after 1 January 2008 or relates to events after 1 January 2008. The Government believes that the Commission's investigations should be forward looking. That is the best way to ensure that its investigations make a positive contribution to the present and future development of human rights law and practice in Northern Ireland. There are other bodies that are better placed, and specifically mandated, to investigate historic issues. This restriction will not prevent the Commission making or commenting on proposals relating to dealing with the past.

We remain committed to the view that the Commission should use its new powers in ways that are forward looking. However, following discussions between the Secretary of State and the Commission, and consideration in Committee, I have agreed to give further consideration prior to report stage, to the date from which the new investigatory powers will become effective.

Q10 - Please provide the Government's assessment of whether the power to access places of detention as set out in the Bill is sufficient to enable the NIHRC to be part of the UK's National Preventive Mechanism under OPCAT.

Discussions are still in progress within Government and with the United Nations about the nature of the UK's National Preventive Mechanism. These discussions include which bodies should be part of the NPM and what powers the various bodies making up the NPM should have. No final judgment has been reached on either issue.

Q11 - Why is the power to stop and question not expressed in terms of the amount to time that is reasonably necessary?

This issue arises from the absence on the face of clause 20(1) of any limitation on the amount of time for which an individual may be questioned under this power.

As you will know, the European Court and domestic judgments have recognised a distinction between a temporary restriction of movement, and deprivation of liberty within the meaning of Article 5. In particular, the European case of Guzzardi v Italy makes the distinction between the restriction on liberty to which Article 5 is directed, and 'mere restrictions on liberty of movement'. The difference between these 2 situations a matter of intensity and must be determined by reference to a number of factors.

It was held in HL v United Kingdom (2004) 40 EHRR 761, paragraph 89 that, "in order to determine whether there has been a deprivation of liberty, the starting-point must be the concrete situation of the individual concerned and account must be taken of a whole range of factors arising in a particular case such as the type, duration, effects and manner of implementation of the measure in question."

The House of Lords considered this issue in Gillan v Metropolitan Police Commissioner. The case concerned 2 individuals who had been stopped for approximately 20 and 30 minutes respectively, while the police searched them for articles in connection with terrorism. The powers to stop and search were exercised under sections 44 - 45 of the Terrorism Act 2000. There is no requirement for such a stop and search to be based on any reasonable suspicion. It was common ground that the stop was in no sense voluntary: the Act gives a constable the power to detain for the purpose of the search, and to use reasonable force to detain; non-compliance is an offence. A person so detained had to remain for as long as it took in order to complete the search, with no limit of time on the face of the legislation.

In considering whether the power was compliant with Article 5, it was held that the exercise of stop and search powers would not ordinarily involve a deprivation of liberty within the meaning of Article 5. Lord Bingham, noting the Guzzardi decision, looked at the factors which would distinguish between a mere restriction on liberty of movement and a situation in which Article 5 is engaged. He held that the instant case was not one to which Article 5 applied, and that the legislation was compatible with the Human Rights Act 1998, based on the following factors: stops under section 44 would ordinarily be brief, they did not involve the person being arrested, handcuffed, confined or kept in custody. The appellants were detained only in the sense of being prevented from proceeding, or being made to wait. There was therefore no deprivation of liberty in such a case [para 26].

In the alternative, Lord Bingham held that were such a stop to involve a deprivation of liberty, it was permitted by Article 5(1)(b) (detention to secure fulfilment of obligation prescribed by law). Since the legislation makes it an offence to obstruct a constable in the exercise of this power, the obligation had been prescribed by law.

In deciding where these powers fall between restrictions on liberty of movement, and deprivation of liberty, it is clear that the power in clause 20(1) is similar to that considered in Gillan. The same factors mentioned in Lord Bingham's speech at paragraph 26 apply equally to our proposed power to stop and question. The detained person will not be handcuffed or imprisoned, and while there is no explicit duration stated in the clause, the questioning would normally amount to no more than a few minutes. Other than in unusual or special circumstances, questioning will only be for a very limited time because it can only relate to the matters stated in that clause.

Moreover, if this power does engage Article 5, by the same reasoning as Gillan, it is justified because it is in order to secure the fulfilment of an obligation prescribed by law. The public are, by virtue of the provisions in clause 20(3)(non-compliance is an offence) and 32(3) (use of reasonable force) placed under an obligation to provide any information relating to the matters in clause 20 if requested to do so by the police and army and any detention is to secure that information.

For these reasons I am content this clause satisfies Article 5.

Turning to your specific question, we do not have the requirement that the stop be reasonably necessary as it appears to add little in the way of safeguards but confers significant disadvantages.

The duration of questioning of individuals under this power is limited only by reference to what is necessary. The decision as to how long a detention is necessary cannot logically be qualified by 'reasonableness' - it is either necessary or it is not. While the concept of reasonable suspicion can be contrasted with unreasonable suspicion, there is no analogous concept of unreasonable necessity.

We do not think this, in fact, adds anything. Whether a particular decision was necessary can be probed and subject to cross examination; while it is a subjective decision of the officer that does not mean it is closed to challenge. It remains open to a court on the facts to find that it was not necessary, or that the officer did not believe it to be necessary. This is a safeguard against abuse, but avoids the danger that a reference to reasonableness in the legislation would introduce an element of uncertainty as to the scope of the power. That would undermine the ability of police officers and especially members of the armed forces (who are not as experienced as police officers in applying such legal requirements) to use the power effectively. This in turn would affect the operational effectiveness of police and armed forces in Northern Ireland.

We therefore believe that the addition of the word 'reasonably' would introduce uncertainty whilst providing no real benefit.

Q12 - What is the precise justification for not requiring a member of the armed forces to state the grounds for arrest when exercising this power?

Although we expect the armed forces to be deployed less and less, it is still necessary for them to have a power of arrest in order for them to be operationally effective when they are deployed. Their ongoing role in Northern Ireland will include a potential role in public order incidents, if the Chief Constable judges such support necessary. This is not a role the armed forces are expected to fulfil in England and Wales. During such a deployment it would be impossible for the armed forces to operate effectively if they were not able to arrest individuals who were, for instance, involved in public order offences and posing a risk to members of the armed forces. It would be impractical to expect the police service to carry out arrests on behalf of the armed forces in an active operational environment. It is also worth noting the considerable differences in the operating environment for the armed forces between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, which remains a unique operating environment despite the progress towards normalisation seen in recent years. Thus, a simple to use power of arrest that is effective in the range of circumstances in which it might arise, and is suitable for members of the forces (who will not have the extensive experience of the police in exercising such powers) is essential.

In considering the armed forces' power of arrest I note that any detention within the meaning of Article 5 must comply with the procedural safeguards in paragraphs (2) -(4). This power of arrest is justifiable because it falls within one of the exceptions to the right to liberty in Article 5(1).

Article 5(2) requires that a person be informed promptly of the reasons for his or her detention. That obligation has been held to require that a person be informed in simple non-technical language of the factual basis for the detention, and in particular be given an opportunity to deny the allegation.

The purpose of the arrest power is to enable members of the armed forces to arrest individuals, and hold them for a period sufficient to enable the police to arrive without imposing the detailed requirements which police officers must comply with. Police officers, having a greater knowledge and understanding of evidential issues will generally be able to make a more accurate assessment of the situation and decide whether the person should be re-arrested for the offence or released. 4 hours is the maximum time for which a person will be held pending that decision - in the vast majority of cases it is a much shorter time. If the police do re-arrest, they apply the PACE (Northern Ireland) Order 1989, which fulfils the obligation in Article 5(2).

The maximum period of delay is therefore 4 hours before the information is given to the individual. It has been held that the requirement that the relevant information be given 'promptly' does not imply that it should be at the moment of arrest. In Fox, Campbell and Hartley, the ECtHR considered the case of 3 individuals who had been arrested and detained for some hours before being interviewed. It was accepted by all parties that the arrest did not comply with the obligation in Article 5(2). It was held that the applicants had sufficient information to enable them to understand the grounds for their detention and to deny the allegations only at the point they were interviewed - in all the cases this was some hours later. In the case of the applicants Fox and Campbell, they were arrested at 3.40pm and questioned at between 8.15 and 10pm the same day. Mr Hartley was arrested 7.55 am and questioned at 11.05 - 12.15 pm the same day. The Court held that the requirement for 'prompt' information could be satisfied if it was given within this time scale: "in the context of the present case these intervals if a few hours cannot be regarded as falling outside the constraints of time imposed by the notion of promptness in article 5(2)."

I am therefore content that this clause satisfies the procedural requirement in Article 5(2).

The rationale for this decision is so as not to impose excessive requirements on the armed forces. Members of the armed forces are not trained police officers, and could not realistically be expected to fully exercise the procedural rules which constables can. In addition, the changing role of the armed forces in Northern Ireland will mean they are deployed with less and less frequently; we expect the power of arrest will therefore be used increasingly rarely, making it even more impractical for members of the armed forces to become familiar with these procedural requirements.

There is a danger that these powers would be impossible to apply if they were too onerous. If the grounds of arrest were wrongly stated by a member of the armed forces it could mean that the arrest would be held to be unlawful, and any actions to restrain the individual may also be illegal. If members of the armed forces became reluctant or uncertain about the use of these powers, their ability to react appropriately to complex and fast-moving situations would severely hampered.

It may reassure you to know that, although there is no requirement on the face of the provision, in fact where a person is detained by a member of the armed forces they will be informed in general terms of the reason for their arrest. Soldiers are given guidance in training to state "as a member of Her Majesty's Forces I am arresting you for… (reason)". In giving their reason the solider would normally refer to the facts giving rise to the arrest - such as the individual being seen throwing a petrol bomb.

Members of the armed forces, unlike police officers, are neither trained nor empowered to question detainees under caution. In those rare situations when members of the armed forces are forced to arrest suspects the circumstances of the arrest, and anything said by the suspect, would be reported by the soldiers when they transferred the suspect to the PSNI. This information is obviously relevant for a decision by the PSNI as to the propriety of any continued detention after transfer. But any policy which required soldiers to question detainees would be inappropriate as it would trespass into powers and responsibilities properly reserved to the PSNI.

Q13 - Bearing in mind that the member of the armed forces must suspect that the person arrested has committed, was committing or was about to commit an offence, why should the arresting officer not be required at the very least to inform the detainee of the facts which are the foundation of the decision to detain, and asked whether he admits or denies the allegation?

As noted above, the practice is to explain the factual grounds giving rise to the arrest. As the power is compatible with Article 5(2), imposing any further requirement would be too onerous and risks undermining the usefulness of the power.

Q14 - Why is the power of entry not at least expressed in objective terms, such as where the police officer or member of the armed services reasonably considers it necessary?

The danger, as with the issue raised in question 11, is that this creates uncertainty. The test proposed would be a mixture of subject and objective. The power is designed to be used in situations such as when an individual is spotted running into a private house after the firing of shots during a public order event. Such situations require the ability to react swiftly to changing events. The danger of introducing this test is that it may prevent officers making decisions which are operationally necessary because they are not certain whether a third party would consider it to be reasonably necessary. Moreover, it also provides fertile ground for argument as to whether a particular decision was reasonably necessary or not. Currently, as with the power to stop and question, the officer's factual basis for believing the action to be necessary can be tested in court and it would be open to a court to find that it was not necessary, or that he did not believe it to be necessary, and to take such action as is appropriate. This provides oversight and safeguards, without causing uncertainty as to the scope of the power.

Q15 - Which of the enumerated exceptions to the right to liberty in Article 5 does the Government rely on in cases where the exercise of this power amounts to a deprivation of liberty?

This power is limited to four hours, although may be extended to eight on appropriate authority. The arguments in response to question 11 are equally appropriate here; the use of this power would normally amount to a restriction rather than detention, and therefore would not normally engage Article 5.

However, the power could clearly be applied in ways, and for a duration which would engage Article 5. In such a case, the power, like that exercised in Gillan is in order to secure the fulfilment of an obligation prescribed by law - the Bill includes an offence at paragraph 8 of Schedule 3 of obstructing or frustrating a search of the premises.

The Committee will also wish to be aware that such powers are in part provided for the safety of police officers and members of the armed forces conducting the searches, as individuals may seek to set off devices hidden within the premises to disrupt a search and injure officers and members of the armed forces.

The police and armed forces have used similar powers for a number of years and are clear that they are only used in a proportionate manner. The powers are unlikely to be used unless individuals attempt to interfere with searches, attempt to leave the property or take other actions which require the police or army to respond. Officers and members of the armed forces take into account the circumstances in the premises - for instance they may allow a mother-in-law entry to the premises where a young mother is at home with a number of young children (making clear to her that she may not be allowed to leave again for a period of time). General police search guidance focuses on a taking a practical approach to searches, such as by ensuring that kitchens and toilets are searched first, in order to make them available again. I am confident that in fact the power will be exercised in a way which is outwith Article 5, but where Article 5 is engaged, the guidance to which you refer will help to ensure that the powers are used in a way which is proportionate and does not violate Article 5.

Q16 - Will the Government make available in draft form while the Bill is still before Parliament the guidance on which it intends to rely to ensure that the power is not exercised incompatibly with Article 5?

The Committee will understand that such guidance will take time to develop. However, I intend to make a draft of the guidance available during the passage of the Bill, most likely for the House of Lords stages.

I have tried to answer your questions as fully as possible and I hope that this will help the Committee in its deliberations on the Bill. Please let me know if I can assist in any other way.

Appendix 1 Attorney-General's Guidelines

Exercise by the crown of its right of stand-by

1. Although the law has long recognised the right of the Crown to exclude a member of a jury panel from sitting as a juror by the exercise in open court of the right to request a stand-by or, if necessary, by challenge for cause, it has been customary for those instructed to prosecute on behalf of the Crown to assert that right only sparingly and in exceptional circumstances. It is generally accepted that the prosecution should not use its right in order to in?uence the overall composition of a jury or with a view to tactical advantage.

2. The approach outlined above is founded on the principles that (a) the members of a jury should be selected at random from the panel subject to any rule of law as to right of challenge by the defence, and (b) the Juries Act 1974 together with the Juries (Disquali?cation) Act 1984 identi?ed those classes of persons who alone are disquali?ed from or ineligible for service on a jury. No other class of person may be treated as disquali?ed or ineligible.

3. The enactment by Parliament of s. 118 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988 abolishing the right of defendants to remove jurors by means of peremptory challenge makes it appropriate that the Crown should assert its right to stand by only on the basis of clearly de?ned and restrictive criteria. Derogation from the principle that members of a jury should be selected at random should be permitted only where it is essential.

4. Primary responsibility for ensuring that an individual does not serve on a jury if he is not competent to discharge properly the duties of a juror rests with the appropriate court officer and, ultimately, the trial judge. Current legislation provides, in ss. 9 and 10 of the Juries Act 1974, fairly wide discretions to excuse or discharge jurors either at the person's own request, where he offers 'good reason why he should be excused', or where the judge determines that 'on account of physical disability or insufficient understanding of English there is doubt as to his capacity to act effectively as a juror'.

5. The circumstances in which it would be proper for the Crown to exercise its right to stand by a member of a jury panel are: (a) where a jury check authorised in accordance with the Attorney-General's guidelines on jury checks reveals information justifying exercise of the right to stand by in accordance with para. 9 of the guidelines and the Attorney-General personally authorises the exercise of the right to stand by; or (b) where a person is about to be sworn as a juror who is manifestly unsuitable and the defence agree that, accordingly, the exercise by the prosecution of the right to stand by would be appropriate. An example of the sort of exceptional circumstances which might justify stand-by is where it becomes apparent that, despite the provisions mentioned in para. 4 above, a juror selected for service to try a complex case is in fact illiterate.

Jury checks

1. The principles which are generally to be observed are (a) that members of a jury should be selected at random from the panel, (b) the Juries Act 1974 together with the Juries (Disquali?cation) Act 1984 identi?ed those classes of persons who alone are either disquali?ed from or ineligible for service on a jury; no other class of person may be treated as disquali?ed or ineligible, and (c) the correct way for the Crown to seek to exclude a member of the panel from sitting as a juror is by the exercise in open court of the right to request a stand-by or, if necessary, to challenge for cause.

2. Parliament has provided safeguards against jurors who may be corrupt or biased. In addition to the provision for majority verdicts, there is the sanction of a criminal offence for a disquali?ed person to serve on a jury. The omission of a disquali?ed person from the panel is a matter for court officials but any search of criminal records for the purpose of ascertaining whether or not a jury panel includes any disquali?ed person is a matter for the police as the only authority able to carry out such a search and as part of their usual function of preventing the commission of offences. The recommendations of the Association of Chief Police Officers respecting checks on criminal records for disquali?ed persons are annexed to these guidelines.

3. There are, however, certain exceptional types of case of public importance for which the provisions as to majority verdicts and the disquali?cation of jurors may not be sufficient to ensure the proper administration of justice. In such cases it is in the interests of both justice and the public that there should be further safeguards against the possibility of bias and in such cases checks which go beyond the investigation of criminal records may be necessary.

4. These classes of case may be de?ned broadly as (a) cases in which national security is involved and part of the evidence is likely to be heard in camera, and (b) terrorist cases.

5. The particular aspects of these cases which may make it desirable to seek extra precautions are (a) in security cases a danger that a juror, either voluntarily or under pressure, may make an improper use of evidence which, because of its sensitivity, has been given in camera, (b) in both security and terrorist cases the danger that a juror's political beliefs are so biased as to go beyond normally re?ecting the broad spectrum of views and interests in the community to re?ect the extreme views of sectarian interest or pressure group to a degree which might interfere with his fair assessment of the facts of the case or lead him to exert improper pressure on his fellow jurors.

6. In order to ascertain whether in exceptional circumstances of the above nature either of these factors might seriously in?uence a potential juror's impartial performance of his duties or his respecting the secrecy of evidence given in camera, it may be necessary to conduct a limited investigation of the panel. In general, such further investigation beyond one of criminal records made for disquali?cations may only be made with the records of police Special Branches. However, in cases falling under para. 4(a) above (security cases), the investigation may, additionally, involve the security services. No checks other than on these sources and no general inquiries are to be made save to the limited extent that they may be needed to con?rm the identity of a juror about whom the initial check has raised serious doubts.

7. No further investigation, as described in para. 6 above, should be made save with the personal authority of the Attorney-General on the application of the Director of Public Prosecutions and such checks are hereafter referred to as 'authorised checks'. When a chief officer of police has reason to believe that it is likely that an authorised check may be desirable and proper in accordance with these guidelines he should refer the matter to the Director of Public Prosecutions with a view to his having the conduct of the prosecution from an early stage. The Director will make any appropriate application to the Attorney-General.

8. The result of any authorised check will be sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions. The Director will then decide, having regard to the matters set out in para. 5 above, what information ought to be brought to the attention of prosecuting counsel.

9. No right of stand-by should be exercised by counsel for the Crown on the basis of information obtained as a result of an authorised check save with the personal authority of the Attorney-General and unless the information is such as, having regard to the facts of the case and the offences charged, to afford strong reason for believing that a particular juror might be a security risk, be susceptible to improper approaches or be in?uenced in arriving at a verdict for the reasons given above.

10. Where a potential juror is asked to stand by for the Crown, there is no duty to disclose to the defence the information on which it was founded; but counsel may use his discretion to disclose it if its nature and source permit it.

11. When information revealed in the course of an authorised check is not such as to cause counsel for the Crown to ask for a juror to stand by but does give reason to believe that he may be biased against the accused, the defence should be given, at least, an indication of why that potential juror may be inimical to their interests; but because of its nature and source it may not be possible to give the defence more than a general indication.

12. A record is to be kept by the Director of Public Prosecutions of the use made by counsel of the information passed to him and of the jurors stood by or challenged by the parties to the proceedings. A copy of this record is to be forwarded to the Attorney-General for the sole purpose of enabling him to monitor the operation of these guidelines.

13. No use of the information obtained as a result of an authorised check is to be made except as may be necessary in direct relation to or arising out of the trial for which the check was authorised.

Appendix 2: Letter dated 16 January from The Rt Hon The Baroness Ashton of Upholland, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, re Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill

Thank you for your letter of 19 December, asking for a further explanation of the Government's view that provisions in Part 3 of the Bill are compatible with the Convention rights.

Taking your points in turn:

1. Why does the Government consider that the "reasonable belief" of an enforcement agent as to the status of individual premises as the basis for a) entry without a warrant and b) the use of forced re-entry without prior judicial authorisation provides adequate protection to debtors, and other third parties, rights to respect for their home and private life (Article 8 ECHR)?

Article 8 is a qualified right. It is limited in that interference is allowed as is permitted by the law for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others. A successful monetary claim represents a "possession" of the creditor, and therefore lawful creditors have the right pursuant to Article 1, Protocol 1 ECHR to enjoy their "possessions" and not to be deprived of them. It is necessary, of course, to find an appropriate balance between the rights of debtors and creditors which, in my view, the Bill achieves.

Having said that, I do accept that the enforcement agent should have a reasonable belief that he is attending the right property before attempting entry or re-entry into premises. This will be based upon the evidence that the agent will have to hand when calling at the premises.

When calling for a judgment, the enforcement agent will be acting upon the information contained within a warrant issued by the courts. When calling for a tax debt, the agent will be acting upon information held on government records, provided and updated by the taxpayer. When calling for a CRAR debt, the agent will be calling at the address specified within the tenancy agreement. This information should give the enforcement agent a "reasonable belief" that he is calling at the right premises. If calling at premises other than where the agent reasonably believes the debtor resides or carries on a trade or business, the agent will require prior judicial authority to do so.

2. Has the Government considered limiting powers of forcible re-entry without judicial oversight to purely commercial premises (i.e. by excluding properties occupied as a dwelling) in order to limit the risk posed to debtors and their families and to third parties rights to respect for their home and to their physical integrity (i.e. those rights protected by Article 8 ECHR)?

Yes, we are considering whether to amend to the Bill to restrict re-entry without a warrant to premises that are wholly commercial.

3. What conditions do the Government consider must be satisfied before a warrant for forced entry will be compatible with the rights of debtors and third parties under Articles 6 and 8 ECHR and Article 1, Protocol 1 ECHR? Why are these conditions not expressly included on the face of the Bill?

I have outlined in the detailed policy statement on delegated powers for the Bill (a copy of which is enclosed) the conditions the Government believes a judge should take into account before granting a warrant for entry using reasonable force. They are contained at paragraphs 149-150, and are repeated below:

"149. Judicial authority may be granted under paragraph 20 or 21 provided that prescribed conditions are met. It is intended that the court's power should only be used as a last resort and each individual case will be judged upon its merits. The conditions of which the court needs to be satisfied for granting forced entry will be contained in regulations under paragraph 22(1) of Schedule 12. It is our intention that these conditions will include:

- that other methods of enforcement have failed;

- the property is inhabited by the debtor;

- normal entry attempts have been unsuccessful;

- there is reason to believe there are suitable goods on the premises to satisfy the debt (and evidence to support that belief);

- the enforcement agent has considered the likely means required to gain entry; and

- the enforcement agent will leave the property in a secure state.

150. The judge may also take other factors into account when making his decision, including:

- the size of the debt;

- the type of debt; and

- any other information about the debtor's personal circumstances."

I believe these conditions to be sufficient to ensure that the provisions relating to warrants for forced entry are ECHR compliant. The conditions are not on the face of the Bill to ensure the necessary flexibility to change these requirements in the future, should circumstances dictate, without the need for further primary legislation.

Of course, it is important to bear in mind that judges will rightly have the discretion to make appropriate decisions in individual cases, based on the evidence with which they are presented.

4. Why is the Government persuaded that the new certification scheme will ensure that enforcement agents have adequate and appropriate levels of experience to ensure that in practice, their extended powers of entry are used in a way which respects Convention rights?

The new enhanced and extended certification process will include a requirement for enforcement agents to undergo training in certain key areas. Therefore as well as needing a thorough knowledge of enforcement law, agents will have to undergo training in fields such as diversity awareness, dealing with conflict (including restraint techniques), and identifying vulnerable or potentially vulnerable debtor groups. Such training will ensure that enforcement agents are fully aware of the rights of all parties with whom they come into contact guaranteed by Article 8 ECHR and Article 1, Protocol 1 ECHR.

Judicial oversight of the system will also ensure impartiality in its application. Judges will have a discretion not to award certificates if the applicant has not successfully completed the required training or has failed to exhibit a full understanding of these rights. Also, debtors or a third party will be able to complain about the actions of a certificated enforcement agent to the judge who issued the certificate. This procedure will be more easily accessible and more widely advertised than the complaints procedure for the current certification scheme, and will enable complaints to dealt with speedily and appropriately, should an agent abuse their position.

5. What conditions do the Government imagine might be applied to individual certificates to ensure that appropriate levels of experience and maturity are guaranteed? Is there any reason why these conditions, or categories of conditions, could not be specified on the face of the Bill?

Concepts such as 'experience' and 'maturity' would be very difficult to define. Certificates will be granted on the basis of the applicant producing evidence of having completed the relevant training and exhibiting a suitable level of knowledge of the law, as well as providing suitable bonds, insurance etc, rather than based on concepts such as 'experience' or 'maturity'. Any conditions of a certificate would relate to the debts that an agent can enforce or the geographical area in which he can operate, rather than dealing with issues such as 'experience'. Judges will have the right to refuse an application for a certificate where an applicant has not sufficiently exhibited the right knowledge or skills. Again, for reasons of flexibility, I would prefer to leave such definitions to delegated legislation.

6. What has persuaded the Government that permitting third parties to assist enforcement agents in the execution of forced entry does not create a risk that debt recovery agencies may exercise their powers in a manner which poses a disproportionate interference with the Convention rights of debtors, their families, and third parties?

I believe there are justifications for allowing third parties to assist the enforcement agent, for instance by providing assistance at large premises and preparing detailed inventories. In addition, the enforcement agent will be personally responsible for actions taken, which will include actions taken by those assisting him (other than offences against the person committed by those assisting him, in which case the assistant will be personally liable), in the enforcement of the writ, warrant or statutory debt concerned. The fact that steps can be taken personally against the enforcement agent (by way of the remedies previously outlined) should ensure that the behaviour, by both the agent and those assisting him, is not a disproportionate interference with the rights of debtors, their families or third parties under Article 8 ECHR and Article 1, Protocol 1 ECHR.

I should add, by way of clarification, that the Bill will regulate "enforcement agents" and not debt collectors (you referred to 'debt recovery agencies' in question 6). Debt collectors are already regulated under the Consumer Credit Act 1974.

7. What limitations do the Government intend to impose on the use of enforcement powers by enforcement agents and those who assist them? What safeguards does the Government consider necessary to protect the right to respect for the home, and family life and to protect individual rights to physical integrity?

Limits on the actions of enforcement agents will be set out in regulations, and will include the following:

- certain goods will be exempt from seizure in accordance with a prescribed list;

- there will be restrictions as to the times at which an enforcement agent will be permitted to attend a debtor's premises;

- access to premises will be restricted to 'normal' methods (i.e. doors or French - windows, and not, for example, via open windows, skylights, or by putting a foot in the door); and

- force will only be permitted in order to restrain debtors who are actively physically obstructing or threatening the enforcement agent or resisting the taking into control of goods.

I believe that these restrictions will provide sufficient protection to debtors' rights to respect for the home and family life and to protect individual rights to physical integrity whilst also taking into account the rights of the creditor.

8. We would be grateful if you could confirm that any enforcement agent, or third party assistant, acting in excess of their powers to use reasonable force against persons will be liable for prosecution for offences against the person.

I can confirm that all enforcement agents and third party helpers remain subject to the law when carrying out their duties, for example, they may be prosecuted for assault.

9. We note your commitment to provide in time for Committee stage in the House of Lords a policy statement on how the Government intends to use the delegated powers in the Bill (HL Deb, 29 November 2006, Col 803). We would be grateful if a copy of this statement (or any draft statement) could be made available to the Committee as soon as possible.

I understand that a copy of the detailed policy statement has already been sent to the Clerk to the Committee, but I enclose a further copy. This document has also been published on the DCA website at: http://www.dca.gov.uk/legist/delegated-powers.pdf.

I hope that the Committee finds this helpful.


128   EN paras 153-4. Back

129   EN para. 7. Back

130   Clause 1(2)(a) and (3)(b). Back

131   EN paras 34 and 154. Back

132   EN para. 156. Back

133   Clause 12. Back

134   EN para. 157. Back

135   Fourteenth Report of Session 2002-03, Work of the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission, HL Paper 132/HC 142. Back

136   Nineteenth Report of Session 2004-05, The Work of the Committee in the 2001-2005 Parliament, HL Paper 112/HC 552, paras 162 to 166. Back

137   para. 14. Back

138   Clause 20(1). Back

139   Clause 20(2). Back

140   EN para. 162. Back

141   Clause 21(1). Back

142   Caluse 21(2). Back

143   Clause 21(5). Back

144   EN paras 60-61. Back

145   Clause 22(1). Back

146   Schedule 3, para. 2. Back

147   Ibid., para. 3. Back

148   EN para. 163. Back

149   Northern Ireland Act 1998, s.69(1). Back

150   Ibid, s.69(3). Back

151   Ibid, s.69(4). Back

152   Ibid, s.69(6). Back

153   HC Deb, 13 December 2006, col. 900. Back


 
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