Mr.
Campbell: As I recall, the police view on recording was
that that is good practice in some areas. We would certainly want to
see that good practice rolled out. However, they were also keen to tell
us that it is predominantly a local matter. As the hon. Member for
Chesterfield said, the police will know the people, and they will not
only be aware of who they are but will record that information. That is
the usual
practice. Of
course, we are very much aware of the issue of burdens on the police
and the best use of their time. However, as I said, it is good practice
in some areas to record the information. The police will put it into
their pocket books now and, if it is not a burden on them now, I am not
sure how it will be a burden on them in the future if that best
practice is extended. When it comes to considering best practice for
all the measures, of course we take such factors into consideration all
the time. I cannot give the hon. Member for Hornchurch a definitive
answer. I cannot say that there will be a review and it will be
published on a particular day, but of course we will examine the
effectiveness of the measures. We will seek to quantify their effect,
not least because we want to ensure, in line with what the police are
telling us, that they are
working. On
the point about displacement and the apparent worthlessness of what we
are seeking to do, I do not agree at all. There may well be some
displacement, of course. People may move on to somewhere else, another
public place, and then fall foul of the legislation. They may go to
someone’s house. We are not claiming that there will be no
displacement, but the police tell us that the powers will be useful on
the street and we believe that they will have an effect. We believe
that they will send the strong message that we need to continue to send
to young people, as well as giving the police the effective powers that
they are asking us for. I certainly do not agree with the hon.
Gentleman if he says that
there will be no effect. Interventions can and do work with young
people. This provision is part of a package of measures, but it is an
important
part. Question
put and agreed
to. Clause
29, as amended, accordingly ordered to stand part of the
Bill.
Clause
30Directions
to individuals who represent a risk of
disorder Question
proposed, That the clause stand part of the
Bill.
James
Brokenshire: I can begin the debate on this clause as I
have a few seconds. It is an important provision that will require
careful consideration, given the impact that it may have on some very
young children and the overall impact on and interrelationship with
child protection issues. It extends directions to leave an area from
people aged 16 or over to those aged 10 or over. I look forward to
continuing the
debate. 10.25
am The
Chairman adjourned the Committee without Question put (Standing Order
No.
88). Adjourned
till this day at One
o’clock.
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