The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chairman:
Mr.
David
Amess
Allen,
Mr. Graham
(Nottingham, North)
(Lab)
Browne,
Mr. Jeremy
(Taunton)
(LD)
Cable,
Dr. Vincent
(Twickenham)
(LD)
Clwyd,
Ann
(Cynon Valley)
(Lab)
Duddridge,
James
(Rochford and Southend, East)
(Con)
Hands,
Mr. Greg
(Hammersmith and Fulham)
(Con)
Hesford,
Stephen
(Wirral, West)
(Lab)
Hogg,
Mr. Douglas
(Sleaford and North Hykeham)
(Con)
Horam,
Mr. John
(Orpington)
(Con)
Ladyman,
Dr. Stephen
(South Thanet)
(Lab)
Michael,
Alun
(Cardiff, South and Penarth)
(Lab/Co-op)
Mudie,
Mr. George
(Leeds, East)
(Lab)
Roy,
Lindsay
(Glenrothes)
(Lab)
Timms,
Mr. Stephen
(Financial Secretary to the
Treasury)
Twigg,
Derek
(Halton) (Lab)
Whittingdale,
Mr. John
(Maldon and East Chelmsford)
(Con)
Mr. Mark Etherton,
Committee Clerk
attended
the Committee
First
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Monday 2
November
2009
[Mr.
David Amess in the
Chair]
Value
Added Tax (Buildings and Land) Order
2009
4.30
pm
The
Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Stephen
Timms): I beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the Value Added Tax (Buildings and Land)
Order 2009 (S.I. 2009, No.
1966).
I
bid you a very warm welcome, Mr. Amess, to chairing our
Committee. It is the first time that I have served under your
chairmanship. I welcome all Committee members as well.
This Treasury
order addresses some issues that have arisen since the current schedule
10 of the Value Added Tax Act 1994 was introduced in 1 June 2008.
Schedule 10 sets out the rules governing the operation of
the option to tax, whereby land and property owners can choose whether
to apply VAT to what would otherwise be VAT-exempt supplies of land and
buildings. A business that exercises that option is required to charge
VAT on all future lettings or sales of the property concerned but is
able to recover the VAT on associated costs, such as repairs and
refurbishments. The option to tax therefore provides flexibility for
developers and landlords whose customers are businesses. I should add
that supplies of domestic and charitable buildings are exempt from VAT
and therefore not affected by the option to
tax.
After
extensive consultation with businesses on simplifying schedule 10, a
revised version came into effect on 1 June 2008 that introduced new
rules for revoking an option to tax and made other changes requested by
businesses to make the operation of the legislation less burdensome.
The package was widely welcomed. A small number of amendments have been
identified since, which are necessary to protect against tax avoidance
risks and to ensure that business can benefit as intended. We have
identified opportunities to simplify the rules further and to ensure
that the anti-avoidance legislation does not bite unfairly in cases of
lending to property developers by banks that have received financial
support from the
Government.
The
changes to schedule 10 take those identified opportunities, first, by
ensuring that when a property subject to an option to tax is sold, the
payments received will be subject to VAT, even if they are made some
time after the sale takes place. That will close an avoidance loophole
and create certainty. Secondly, the changes will ensure that the
benefits of the real estate election rules, which allow businesses to
take a single option to tax all future acquisitions of land and
buildings rather than notify each individually, also apply to those
buying property at auction. Thirdly, the changes make it simpler for
taxpayers to obtain permission from Her Majestys Revenue and
Customs to revoke an option to taxafter the requisite 20 years
have passedand to exclude new
buildings from an existing option to tax. Fourthly, the changes amend
the disapplication of the option to tax anti-avoidance test to ensure
that the test does not catch banks simply because they have Government
shareholding.
The
amendments to schedule 10 in the Treasury order ensure that businesses
can benefit from the option to tax rules as intended when schedule 10
was introduced, and protect against avoidance
risk.
I commend the
order to the
Committee.
4.33
pm
Mr.
Greg Hands (Hammersmith and Fulham) (Con): It is a
pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr. Amess, for, I
believe, the second time. I thank the Financial Secretary for
introducing the order. As he said, it follows on from the identically
titled order of last year, which made extensive changes to schedule 10
of the 1994 Act, and the changes before us adjust the regime brought in
last year. I understand that most were prompted by suggestions from
businesses, which I think the Financial Secretary also said. We have
some questions about the
order.
We
welcomed last years order, which introduced the so-called
options tax that allows VAT to be charged and,
therefore, other VAT to be offset at the same time, hence irrevocable
VAT becomes recoverable. We are minded to support the present changes
but I would be grateful if the Financial Secretary could first answer
some questions about the proposals.
The
explanatory notes identify two key motives for the changes. First, they
state that the changes will facilitate the schemes use. How
much take-up has there been of the options made available by last
years order, both in terms of the number of
instancescompanies involvedand the financial value of
the
transactions?
Secondly,
the changes reduce further the risk of schedule 10
being used for abusive tax avoidance purposes. Is that
remark a response to a theoretical risk, or an actual risk of tax
avoidance? Is there any evidence that the scheme is being abused and,
if so, what isor is projected to bethe scale of abuse
over a whole financial year? The technical changes seem acceptable, but
I would like the Financial Secretarys reassurance that the
parties affected have been properly consulted.
A further
question relates to the 20-year revocations that became permissible
from 1 August 2009. That was one of the changes approved last year and
it would be helpful to have the Financial Secretarys
reflections on what has happened since they took effect. Finally, given
that the rules on those options are already being amended, does the
right hon. Gentleman anticipate any problems with any of the existing
cases as a result of changes that we are discussing
today?
4.36
pm
Mr.
Jeremy Browne (Taunton) (LD): I wish to contribute briefly
to the debate, because I, too, see merit in the proposals. However, I
have a few additional questions that I wish to put to the Financial
Secretary. The first questionand this has been touched on by
the hon. Member for Hammersmith and Fulhamrefers to the degree
to which the measures make tax avoidance easier or, as I
imagine the Financial Secretary would claim, harder. Is there a
differential in operation? Some companies are very alert to the
possibilities of reducing their tax liability and can see ways in which
these
mechanisms can be brought to bear for their benefit, but smaller
organisations may have more difficulty in that regard. It would be
helpful if the Financial Secretary reassured the Committee that the
nature of the arrangements is such that they do not mean that companies
would have to go to elaborate lengths to try to calculate many
different models of taxation to try to find which one is most
advantageous to them.
I know it
would require some projections or assumptions, but it would be helpful
to the Committee to have an estimate of how much additional revenue
would be raised for Treasury coffers as a result of such measures. Is
this primarily about trying to comply with a European Union-wide
approach? Is it about trying to make the taxation regime easier for
business to understand? Is it about trying to encourage more investment
by companies? Is it about trying to maximise revenue to the Treasury at
a time when we have very straitened public finances? Perhaps it is a
combination of all of those considerations, but I am interested in the
motivation and the projected
consequences.
Will
the Financial Secretary give us an indication of the effect of the
temporary VAT cut on this measure? More pertinently, what effect will
it have in just less than two months, when the temporary VAT cut no
longer applies and we revert back to the 17.5 per cent. rate? What
would be the potential consequences of increasing VAT to, for example,
20 per cent.? That has been widely mooted in the press and elsewhere
and is seen by many as a possible policy in the years ahead to try to
grapple with the budget deficitalthough for the record that is
not a policy of my
party.
Finally,
the measures take effect from 1 August 2009. Perhaps I simply do not
understand the proceduresand I realise that the House does not
sit in Augustbut it seems to strange that we are brought into
such Committees, more than three months after the date the measures
take effect, to discuss whether we approve of them. Presumably, if the
Committee decided that it did not approve of the measures, there would
be all kinds of complications trying to reverse something that has
already been set in train. Procedurally, would it not be better for us
to have an opportunity to discuss these matters in advance, rather than
many months
afterwards?
4.39
pm
Mr.
Timms: It might help the Committee if I say a little bit
more about the avoidance measure, particularly on the automatic
revocation rule. That will enable me to
address the questions raised by both hon. Gentlemen. I am grateful for
their support in principle for these changes.
Once the
cooling-off period has expired, an option to tax cannot normally be
revoked for 20 years. That ensures a fair balance between the VAT
recovered by the businessfor example, on building or
refurbishment costsand the VAT received by HMRC from supplies
of land or property. The Budget changes allowed an option to tax to
lapse automatically if the taxpayer had not held a relevant interest in
the property in the immediately preceding six years. That automatic
revocation included an anti-avoidance rule to prevent abuse but, in
discussion with businesses, three new situations were identified that
could create a tax-avoidance opportunity not prevented by the current
rule. The order addresses the three avoidance opportunities by denying
automatic revocation in each of those circumstances. We are not aware
of any current avoidance on that basis and we are not expecting a
significant impact on receipts as a result of the changes we are
making. But it is estimated that the changesparticularly the
one on the automatic revocation rulecould protect up to
£100 million a year in future. That is the scale of what we are
dealing with.
I can tell the
hon. Member for Hammersmith and Fulham that leading up to the order
there was extensive discussion with interested businesses to discover
their thoughts on the proposals. Representatives of the trade bodies
for the property sector and leading legal accountancy and advisory
bodies were involved in the consultation process and expressed
themselves content with what we are
proposing.
The
hon. Member for Taunton asked a fair question about the delay. However,
as he said, we have not been here for most of the period since the
order was laid. We seek to bring such matters to the House as soon as
we can. Sometimes there are several, leading to bunching, which can
cause delay. I agree with him that these matters should be brought to
the House as quickly as possible. In this instance, given the summer
break, we have done
so.
I
am grateful to both hon. Members for what they have said and I hope the
Committee will feel able to agree the
order.
Question
put and agreed to.
4.43
pm
Committee
rose.