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Mr. Timms: Not without QTS is the answer. But as the hon. Gentleman said we have extended the period, recognising the important contribution that a number of overseas teachers have made.

Picking up the some of the points made by the hon. Member for Harrogate and Knaresborough, the GTC does support these new categories of registration and, in particular, supports the new category of provisional registration, so this is not something that is being imposed and is unwelcome.

Amendments No. 503 to 513 would prevent the GTC from undertaking suitability assessments both for trainee teachers and overseas teachers. I do not think that that would be in the interest of promoting the highest professional standards. I accept that before we consider making regulations, there is a lot of work to be done. We will certainly need to consult the GTC on the timing of the regulations and on the council's readiness to bring this new group of teachers within the regulatory framework. In turn, the GTC will want to consult the teacher unions, employers and initial teacher-training providers before a provisional register is established. Further, the funding implications—the availability of resources—will also need to be thought through and, of course, spending plans for 2003-04 and beyond will be the subject of the spending review under way at the moment. Therefore, the process of implementing the new category of provisional registration will not be an immediate one.

The number of individuals eligible for provisional registration would be small in comparison to the 400,000 and more qualified teachers who are currently eligible to be registered with the GTC. We estimate that the first tranche of provisional registrations could amount to around 40,000 individuals.

I hope that hon. Members, on reflection, will recognise that this is a helpful move and that the amendment will be withdrawn.

Mr. Willis: I am grateful to the Minister for his explanation. I do not support all his comments. For instance, it is up to the teacher training agency and the relevant institutions to vet people so as to establish whether they are suitable. The idea that they might finish a course and then be found to be unsuitable is farcical, so I do not accept that. Also, until trainee teachers have qualified, their status is no different

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from, for example, a classroom assistant who is working in a school but who cannot become an associate member.

I do not think that there is any difficulty in the GTC vetting overseas teachers without them becoming part and parcel of the associate registration process. I have, however, listened to what the Minister has said and I will reflect on it. I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.

Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

Schedule 13 agreed to

Ordered,

    That the Order of the Committee [11 December 2001] relating to programming, as amended [13 and 18 December 2001 and 10 January 2002 and today] be amended as follows—

    in paragraph (1), the words 'and on Monday 21st January at half past Four o'clock' are omitted;

    in paragraph (2), '19' is omitted and '18' inserted;

    the entries for the 14th to 19th sittings are omitted and the following is inserted:

14th Clauses 115 to 126, Schedule 12, Clauses 127 to 144, Schedule 13 (so far as not previously concluded) 5.15 p.m.
15thClauses 115 to 126, Schedule 12, Clauses 127 to 144, Schedule 13 (so far as not previously concluded)
16thClauses 145 to 148, Schedule 14, Clauses 149 to 151, Schedule 15,

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Clauses 152 to 170 (so far as not previously concluded)
10 p.m.
17th Clauses 171 to 181, Schedule 16, Clause 182, Schedule 17, Clause 183, Schedule 18, Clauses 184 to 189, Schedule 11, Clauses 190 to 193, Schedule 19, Clauses 194 to 200, Schedule 20, Clauses 201 to 211, Schedule 21, Schedule 22, new Clauses, new Schedules
18thClauses 171 to 181, Schedule 16, Clause 182, Schedule 17, Clause 183, Schedule 18, Clauses 184 to 189, Schedule 11, Clauses 190 to 193, Schedule 19, Clauses 194 to 200, Schedule 20, Clauses 201 to 211, Schedule 21, Schedule 22, new Clauses, new Schedules (so far as not previously concluded)—[Mr. Heppell.] 5 p.m.

Mr. John Heppell (Lord Commissioner to the Treasury): I thank you for your tolerance, Mr. Griffiths. I thank hon. Members for helping us to get through our business today.

Further consideration adjourned.—[Mr. Heppell.]

Adjourned accordingly at eleven minutes past Five o'clock till Tuesday 22 January at half-past Ten o'clock.

The following Members attended the Committee

Griffiths, Mr. Win (Chairman)

Bailey, Mr.

Brady, Mr.

Coaker, Mr.

Flint, Caroline

Francis, Dr.

Grayling, Chris

Heppell, Mr.

Kumar, Dr.

Laing, Mrs.

Lewis, Mr. Ivan

Miliband, Mr.

O'Brien, Mr. Stephen

Purnell, James

Timms, Mr.

Touhig, Mr.

Turner, Mr. Andrew

Willis, Mr.

 
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