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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 21st July 1999

The House met at half-past Nine o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Greg Pope);
 
        And it being Two o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order.
2Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Barry Jones reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 48) on 1999-2000 Special Grant for developing new approaches to commissioning services for drug misusers.
 
        Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
3Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:
 
        The Lords have agreed to the Company and Business Names (Chamber of Commerce, Etc.) Bill, without Amendment.
 
        Road Traffic (Use of Mobile Telephones) Bill,—The Lords have passed a Bill to make it an offence to drive while using a hand-held mobile telephone; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
4Employment Rights (International Obligations) Bill,—Mr Tony Benn, supported by Mr Harold Best, Mrs Ann Cryer, Mr Alan Simpson, Mr Llew Smith, Audrey Wise, Mr Mike Wood, Mr Austin Mitchell, Mr Kevin McNamara, Mr Dennis Skinner, Mr Bill Etherington and Maria Fyfe presented a Bill to make provision for the implementation in the laws of the United Kingdom of the rights in employment which are established by certain international instruments ratified by the United Kingdom: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 146].
5Work with Asbestos,—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to create new offences relating to negligent or malicious practice involving work with asbestos; to increase the penalties available to the courts for existing offences; to confer new powers on the Health and Safety Executive; to amend the law with regard to the employment rights of health and safety representatives; and for connected purposes: And that Mr Harry Cohen, Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Michael Clapham, Mr Jeremy Corbyn, Tom Cox, Mr Neil Gerrard, Dr Norman A. Godman, Helen Jackson, Mr Gerald Kaufman, Mr John Smith, Dr Howard Stoate and Mr Tony Worthington do prepare and bring it in.
6Work with Asbestos Bill,—Mr Harry Cohen accordingly presented a Bill to create new offences relating to negligent or malicious practice involving work with asbestos; to increase the penalties available to the courts for existing offences; to confer new powers on the Health and Safety Executive; to amend the law with regard to the employment rights of health and safety representatives; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 23rd July and to be printed [Bill 147].
7Access to Justice Bill [Lords],—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Reasons assigned by the Lords for disagreeing to certain of the Amendments made by this House, and an Amendment made by the Lords to an Amendment made by this House to the Access to Justice Bill [Lords].
 
        Lords Reason for disagreeing to Commons Amendments in page 1, line 18, page 11, line 20, page 11, line 40, page 11, line 43 (Nos. 27 to 30) considered:—
 
        A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House does not insist on its Amendments—(Mr Keith Vaz);
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Robert Ainsworth, Jim Dowd: 294.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Keith Simpson, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 166.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        Resolved, That this House does not insist on its Amendments.
 
        Amendments (a) to (e) made to the Bill, in lieu of the Commons Amendments Nos. 27 to 30 to which the Lords have disagreed.
 
        Lords Reason for disagreeing to Commons Amendments in page 12, line 35 (No. 31) considered:—
 
        A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House does not insist on its Amendment—(Mr Keith Vaz);
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Clelland, Mr Kevin Hughes: 288.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr Keith Simpson: 173.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        Resolved, That this House does not insist on its Amendment.
 
        Amendments (a) and (b) made to the Bill in lieu of Commons Amendment No. 31, to which the Lords have disagreed.
 
        Lords Amendment to Commons Amendment in page 19, line 14 (No. 56) considered:—
 
        Resolved, That this House disagrees to the Amendment proposed by the Lords in line 4 of Commons Amendment No. 56.—(Mr Keith Vaz.)
 
        Amendment (a) made to the Bill in lieu of the Lords Amendment to Commons Amendment No. 56.
8Employment Relations Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Employment Relations Bill.
 
        Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 16 agreed to.
 
        Lords Amendment No. 17.
 
        A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said Amendment—(Mr Secretary Byers);
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Keith Hill: 312.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Keith Simpson: 109.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        Lords Amendment accordingly disagreed to.
 
        Lords Amendments Nos. 18 and 19 agreed to.
 
        Lords Amendment No. 20.
 
        A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said Amendment;
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Keith Hill: 319.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Bill Rammell, Mr Martin Caton: 0.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        Resolved, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said Amendment.
 
        And it being after Ten o'clock, further proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments to the Employment Relations Bill stood adjourned.
 
        Lords Amendments to be further considered to-morrow.
9Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [Lords],—The Order of the day being read for consideration of the Contracts (Rights of Third Parties) Bill [Lords], not amended in the Standing Committee;
 
        Ordered, That the Bill be considered to-morrow.
10Cinemas and Film,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Films (Modification of the Definition of 'British Film') Order 1999, which was laid before this House on 8th July, be approved—(Jim Dowd);
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Robert Ainsworth, Mr Graham Allen: 314.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Douglas Hogg, Mrs Teresa Gorman: 36.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        Resolved, That the draft Films (Modification of the Definition of 'British Film') Order 1999, which was laid before the House on 8th July, be approved.
11Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Jim Dowd.)
 
        And accordingly the House, having continued to sit until seventeen minutes past Eleven o'clock, adjourned until tomorrow.
[Adjourned at 11.17 p.m.
Betty Boothroyd
Speaker        

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.

APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
1Courts and Legal Services,—Report of the Court Service for 1998-99 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 706] [Mr Keith Vaz].
2Culture, Media and Sport Executive Agencies,—Report and Accounts of the Royal Parks Agency for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 600] [Mr Secretary Smith].
3Defence Executive Agencies,—Reports and Accounts of—
 
        (1) Defence Codification Agency,
 
        (2) Defence Postal and Courier Services Agency, and
 
        (3) Royal Air Force Signals Engineering Establishment
 
    for 1998-99, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 720, 521 and 677] [Mr Secretary Robertson].
4Electricity,—Report of the Director General for Electricity Supply: Office of Electricity Regulation (Offer) for 1998 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 646] [Mr Secretary Byers].
5Gas,—Report of the Director General for Gas Supply: Office of Gas Supply (Ofgas) for 1998 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 645] [Mr Secretary Byers].
6Government Trading Funds,—Reports and Accounts of—
 
        (1) Companies House, and
 
        (2) The Patent Office
 
    for 1998-99, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 635 and 718] [Clerk of the House].
7Local Government,—Report and Accounts of the London Pensions Fund Authority for 1998-99 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
8Miscellaneous Financial Provisions,—Report of the Rural Development Commission for 1998-99 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
9Museums and Galleries,—Account of the Victoria and Albert Museum for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 768] [Clerk of the House].
10National Heritage (Scotland),—Accounts of the Royal Botanical Garden, Edinburgh for 1998-99 with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 769] [Clerk of the House].
11National Insurance,—National Insurance Fund Long Term Financial Estimates: Report by the Government Actuary on the Quinquennial Review for the period ended 5th April 1995 [by Command] [Cm. 4406] [Dawn Primarolo].
12National Lottery,—Account of the Arts Council of England Lottery Distribution for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 772] [Clerk of the House].
13Prosecution of Offences,—Report of the Crown Prosecution Service for 1998-99 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 675] [Mr Attorney General].
14Public Lending Right,—Account of the Public Lending Right Central Fund for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 770] [Clerk of the House].
15Science and Technology,—Report and Summary Financial Statement of the Economic and Social Research Council for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].
16Treaty Series (No. 45, 1999),—Agreement, done at Tallinn on 16th August 1995, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Republic of Estonia on International Road Transport [by Command] [Cm. 4398] [Mr Secretary Cook].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1Draft Courses for Drink-Drive Offenders (Experimental Period) (Termination of Restrictions) Order 1999:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and has appointed Mr John Butterfill Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Graham Allen, Mr David Borrow, Mr Tom Brake, Mr Dale Campbell-Savours, Mr Harry Cohen, Mr Lawrence Cunliffe, Mr David Faber, Mr Stephen Hepburn, Glenda Jackson, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr Andrew Robathan, Miss Geraldine Smith, Helen Southworth, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Derek Twigg and Mr Shaun Woodward.
2Salary of the Data Protection Registrar for the period 1st April 1999 to 31st March 2000:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Salary of the Data Protection Registrar to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and has appointed Mr Humfrey Malins Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Hilary Benn, Ms Karen Buck, Mr Keith Darvill, Mr Denzil Davies, Mr Neil Gerrard, Mr John Greenway, Mr Mike Hall, Mr John Horam, Mr George Howarth, Mr Paul Keetch, Ms Oona King, Dr Doug Naysmith, Bob Russell, Mr Nick St. Aubyn, Mr Keith Simpson and Ms Gisela Stuart.
3Education (Head Teachers) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1287):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and has appointed Mr Edward O'Hara Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Sir Sydney Chapman, Mr James Clappison, Mr Charles Clarke, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown, Mr Don Foster, Mrs Joan Humble, Mr Eric Illsley, Mr David Jamieson, Lynne Jones, Miss Julie Kirkbride, Chris McCafferty, Siobhain McDonagh, Mr Andrew Miller, Christine Russell, Joan Ryan and Mr Phil Willis.
4National Health Service (General Medical Services) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1627), and the National Health Service (General Medical Services) (Scotland) Amendment (No. 3) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1620):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and has appointed Mr Bill O'Brien Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Douglas Alexander, Mr Peter Bottomley, Dr Peter Brand, Mr David Clelland, Mr Stephen Day, Mr John Denham, Maria Fyfe, Dr Norman A. Godman, Mr Paul Goggins, Mr Dominic Grieve, Mr Philip Hammond, Dr Evan Harris, Rosemary McKenna, Dr Gavin Strang, Mr Gareth R. Thomas (Harrow West) and Mr Robert N. Wareing.
5Food Safety (Fishery Products and Live Shellfish) (Hygiene) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1585):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation and has appointed Mr Bowen Wells Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Dr Peter Brand, Mr Julian Brazier, Mr David Clelland, Mr Terry Davis, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Jeff Ennis, Mr Andrew George, Mrs Linda Gilroy, Tessa Jowell, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Mr Kevin McNamara, Mr Tom Pendry, Mrs Caroline Spelman, Mr Ian Taylor, Mr Mark Todd and Mr Brian White.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1Defence,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence Committee [Defence Research Expenditure]; to be printed [No. 616-iv] [Mr Bruce George].
2Education and Employment,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee [The role of private companies in the management and supply of state education services]; to be printed [No. 763-i] [Mr Malcolm Wicks]; and
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Employment Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee [The Employment Consequences of European Economic and Monetary Union]; to be printed [No. 547-iv] [Mr Derek Foster].
3Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—(1) Sixteenth Report from the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Multilateral Environmental Agreements]; together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [Nos. 307-I and III]; and
 
        (2) Seventeenth Report from the Committee [Housing: PPG3]; together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [Nos. 490-I and III]
 
    [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].
4European Scrutiny,—(1) Twenty-seventh Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 34-xxvii]; and
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Post-Council Scrutiny: the Internal Market Council, 21 June 1999]; to be printed [No. 766]
 
    [Mr Jimmy Hood].
5Northern Ireland Affairs,—(1) Third Report from the Committee [Impact in Northern Ireland of Cross-Border Road Fuel Price Differentials], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 334];
 
        (2) Fourth Report from the Committee [The Operation of the Fair Employment Act 1989: Ten Years On], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 95]; and
 
        (3) Papers laid before the Committee [Miscellaneous]
 
    [Mr Peter Brooke].
6Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Freedom of Information Draft Bill]; to be printed [No. 570-xii] [Dr Tony Wright].
7Scottish Affairs,—(1) Second Report from the Scottish Affairs Committee [Tourism in Scotland], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 85]; and
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Work of The Scottish Office]; to be printed [No. 771]
 
    [Mr David Marshall].
8Science and Technology,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [The Year 2000-Computer Compliance: Follow up]; to be printed [No. 692-ii] [Lynne Jones].
9Social Security,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Social Security Committee [Social Security Implications of Parental Leave]; to be printed [No. 543-ii] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].
10Welsh Affairs,—(1) Sixth Report from the Welsh Affairs Committee [Denbighshire County Council's Funding Crisis], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 340];
 
        (2) Third Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Second Report from the Committee, on Broadcasting in Wales and the National Assembly]; to be printed [No. 774]; and
 
        (3) Memorandum laid before the Committee [Welsh Office Departmental Report 1999]
 
    [Mr Martyn Jones].



 
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