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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 5th May 1999

The House met at half-past Nine o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Clive Betts);
 
        And it being Two o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order.
2Football (Offences and Disorder) Bill,—Mr Bill O'Brien reported from Standing Committee D, That it had gone through the Football (Offences and Disorder) Bill, and made Amendments thereunto.
 
        Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Friday 11th June; and to be printed [Bill 96].
 
        Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 428].
3European Scrutiny,—So much of the Order of 30th March [Fifteenth Report of the European Scrutiny Committee] as relates to the printing of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee was read and discharged.
4Football Regulator,—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to establish a regulator for professional football: And that Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Tony Clarke, Mr Ivor Caplin, Gillian Merron, Mr Vernon Coaker, Mr Stephen Hepburn, Mr Joe Ashton, Mr Ivan Henderson, Ann Keen, Jim Fitzpatrick, Mr Colin Burgon and Joan Walley do prepare and bring it in.
5Football Regulator Bill,—Mr Gerry Sutcliffe accordingly presented a Bill to establish a regulator for professional football: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 11th June and to be printed [Bill 95].
6Greater London Authority Bill (Consideration) [2nd allotted day],—The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the Greater London Authority Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 84 to 87) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 79) proposed to the Bill, in page 88, line 1, to leave out from the beginning of the line to the end of line 16 on page 98.—(Mr Richard Ottaway.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made;
 
        And it being half-past Six o'clock, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [30th April], put the Question already proposed from the Chair.
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made;
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Sir David Madel: 112.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr David Jamieson: 283.
 
        The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the remaining Questions necessary to dispose of the business required to be concluded at that hour.
 
        Another Clause (The PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Terms of appointment etc of the PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Staff of the PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Directions of the PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Guidance by the PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Duty of PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Further powers of the PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Provision of information to the PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Immunity of PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Expenses of the PPP arbiter)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 88 to 92) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 80) proposed to the Bill, in page 121, line 36, to leave out Clause 222.—(Mr Richard Ottaway.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Sir David Madel: 97.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Jane Kennedy, Mr Keith Hill: 265.
 
        And it being after Nine o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put forthwith the remaining Questions necessary to dispose of the business required to be concluded at that hour.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 140 to 144, 126, 138, 145, 100, 101, 109 to 113, 150, 127, 128 and 114) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Transfers of LRT's property etc to Transport for London)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Functions during the transition from LRT to TfL)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Fares etc during the transitional period)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Continuity: repealed or revoked functions of LRT)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Transfer of former functions of London Transport Executive)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Dissolution of London Regional Transport)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Interpretation of Chapter XIV)—(Jim Dowd)—brought up, read the first time and added to the Bill.
 
        A Motion being made, That the Bill be now read the third time;
 
        Margaret Beckett, by Her Majesty's Command, acquainted the House, That Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the Bill, gives her Consent, as far as Her Majesty's prerogative and interest is concerned, That the House may do therein as it shall think fit.
 
        And the Question being proposed;
 
        An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word 'That' to the end of the Question, and add the words 'this House, whilst accepting the principle of a representative body to speak for London, declines to give a Third Reading to the Greater London Authority Bill because it provides for an Authority elected by proportional representation, which will lead to weak government and disproportionate influence of minority parties; because it introduces road user charging which will not solve the problems of congestion or pollution in London; and because it provides wholly unsatisfactory arrangements for the future of London Underground which will not receive the necessary funding or management under the Government's proposed Public Private Partnership, thus burdening Londoners with substantial levels of debt from the outset.', instead thereof.—(Mr Richard Ottaway.)
 
        And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made;
 
        And it being Ten o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair.
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Stephen Day, Sir David Madel: 105.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Jane Kennedy, Mr Keith Hill: 265.
 
        So the Question was negatived.
 
        And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading):—It was agreed to.
 
        The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.
7Public Administration,—Ordered, That Mr Mike Hancock be discharged from the Select Committee on Public Administration and Mr Mark Oaten be added to the Committee.—(Mr Graham Allen.)
8Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Graham Allen.)
 
        And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eighteen minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.42 p.m.
Betty Boothroyd
Speaker        

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.

APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1Local Government,—Recreation Grounds (Revocation of Parish Council Byelaws) Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1227), dated 26th April 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].
2National Health Service,—(1) National Health Service (Clinical Negligence Scheme) (Amendment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1274), and
 
        (2) National Health Service (Existing Liabilities Scheme) (Amendment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1275),
 
        dated 4th May 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Dobson].
3Social Security,—Social Security Revaluation of Earnings Factors Order 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 1235), dated 27th April 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].
Other Papers:
4Defence Executive Agencies,—Report and Accounts of the Defence Animal Centre for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 259] [Mr Secretary Robertson].
5Gift of Public Property,—Department for Education and Employment Minute, dated 5th May 1999, concerning the gifting of assets to UFI Ltd to support the development of the Company to deliver the Department's objectives for lifelong learning [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
6Ireland (No. 7, 1999),—Agreement, done at Dublin on 27th April 1999, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Ireland establishing the Independent Commission for the Location of Victims' Remains [by Command] [Cm 4344] [Mr Secretary Cook].
7National Health Service,—Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Scotland on 28th April 1999 on loans proposed to be raised by the Dumfries & Galloway Acute & Maternity Hospitals National Health Service Trust [by Act] [Mr Secretary Dewar].
8Public Accounts,—Treasury Minute on the Fifth Report from the Committee of Public Accounts, Session 1998-99 [by Command] [Cm. 4335] [Mrs Barbara Roche].
9Trade Union and Labour Relations,—Report of the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service (ACAS) for 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1Education (School Organisation Committees) (England) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 700), the Education (School Organisation Plans) (England) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 701) and the Education (Transition to New Framework) (School Organisation Proposals) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 704):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Ben Bradshaw, Mrs Janet Dean, Mr Bill Etherington, Mr Don Foster, Mr Roger Godsiff, Mr David Jamieson, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mrs Theresa May, Estelle Morris, Mr Phil Sawford, Mr Nicholas Soames, Rachel Squire, Mr Graham Stringer, Mr John Wilkinson, Mr Phil Willis and Derek Wyatt.
2Education (Budget Statements and Supplementary Provisions) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 486):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Christine Butler, Mr Charles Clarke, Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas, Mr Jim Dobbin, Mr Don Foster, Dr Brian Iddon, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mrs Theresa May, Rachel Squire, Sir Teddy Taylor, Dr Rudi Vis, Mr Brian White, Sir Raymond Whitney and Mr Phil Willis.
3Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Framework Agreement for Trade and Co-operation between the European Community and its Member States and the Republic of Korea) Order 1999, and the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Economic Partnership, Political Co-ordination and Co-operation Agreement between the European Community and its Member States and the United Mexican States) Order 1999:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Orders to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Joe Ashton, Mr Menzies Campbell, Dr David Clark, Ann Clwyd, Mr David Heath, Mrs Joan Humble, Mr Brian Jenkins, Mr Alan Keen, Jane Kennedy, Sir David Madel, Mr Kerry Pollard, Ms Joyce Quin, Mr Andrew Rowe, Sir Michael Spicer, Mr Roger Stott and Mr Michael Trend.
4Education (Education Standards Etc. Grants) (England) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999, No. 606):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mrs Angela Browning, Mr Jamie Cann, Mr Charles Clarke, Mr Robin Corbett, Mrs Ann Cryer, Mr Christopher Gill, Mr Kelvin Hopkins, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Paul Keetch, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mrs Theresa May, Mr Bill Michie, Joan Ryan, Mr David Taylor, Mr Phil Willis and Ms Rosie Winterton.
5Draft Unfair Dismissal and Statement of Reasons for Dismissal (Variation of Qualifying Period) Order 1999:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Tim Boswell, Mr Ronnie Campbell, Mr David Chidgey, Mr Tim Collins, Mr Brian Cotter, Mr Frank Doran, Julia Drown, Mr Fabian Hamilton, Mr David Lepper, Mr Terry Lewis, Mr Ian McCartney, Mr Greg Pope, Mr Chris Ruane, Mr Anthony Steen, Mr John Townend and Dr Tony Wright.
6Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 47) on rural bus subsidy grants for 1999-2000 (HC 407):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Special Grant Report to the Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Graham Allen, Mr Peter Bradley, Mr Colin Breed, Mr Andrew George, Jane Griffiths, Glenda Jackson, Mr Bernard Jenkin, Mr Andy King, Chris McCafferty, Mr Tony McWalter, Mr Richard Page, Mr Gordon Prentice, Ms Debra Shipley, Mr John Smith, Mrs Caroline Spelman and Mr Ian Taylor.
7Value Added Tax (Amendment) Regulations 1999 (S.I., 1999. No. 438):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Tenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Robert Ainsworth, Mr David Atkinson, Mr Graham Brady, Dr Vincent Cable, Dr Lynda Clark, Tom Cox, Mr John Cryer, Mr Edward Davey, Jim Fitzpatrick, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Alan Johnson, Mr Bob Laxton, Mr Stephen Pound, Dawn Primarolo, Mr Brian Sedgemore and Mr John Whittingdale.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1Agriculture,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Agriculture Committee [Government Response to the Second Report from the House of Lords Select Committee on the European Communities, Session 1998-99, EC Regulation of Genetic Modification in Agriculture, HL Paper 11]; to be printed [No. 427-i]; and
 
        (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Sea Fishing; Government Response to the Second Report from the House of Lords Select Committee on the European Communities, Session 1998-99, EC Regulation of Genetic Modification in Agriculture, HL Paper 11]
 
    [Mr Peter Luff].
2Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [UK Climate Change Programme]; to be printed [No. 171-vi] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett]; and
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [Tendered Bus Services]; to be printed [No. 429-i] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
3European Scrutiny,—(1) Eighteenth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 34-xviii]; and
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 30th March [Schengen Agreement]; to be printed [No. 430]
 
    [Mr Jim Marshall].
4Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [DETR: Sale of Residual Loans to Housing Associations]; to be printed [No. 431-i] [Mr David Davis].



 
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