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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 16th December 1998

The House met at half-past Nine o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr David Jamieson);
 
        And it being Two o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order.
2Income Tax,—The Vice Chamberlain of the Household reported to the House, That its Address of 7th December relating to Income Tax had been presented to Her Majesty; and that Her Majesty had been pleased to receive the same very graciously and to give the following Answer:
 
        I have received your Address praying that the Double Taxation Relief (Taxes on Income) (Ireland) Order 1998 be made in the form of the draft laid before your House.
 
        I will comply with your request.
3Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Joe Benton reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Town and Country Planning (Minerals) (Scotland) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 2913) and the Town and Country Planning (Compensation for Restrictions on Mineral Working and Mineral Waste Depositing) (Scotland) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 2914).
 
        Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
4Welsh Grand Committee,—Mr Barry Jones reported from the Welsh Grand Committee, That it had considered the matter of Government expenditure in Wales (1999-2000 to 2001-2002, referred to it on 27th November, and had directed him to report accordingly to the House.
 
        Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 115].
5Sexual Offences (Amendment) Bill,—Mr Secretary Straw, supported by the Prime Minister, Mr Secretary Blunkett, Mr Secretary Dewar, Mr Secretary Dobson, Secretary Marjorie Mowlam, Mr Secretary Michael and Mr Paul Boateng presented a Bill to reduce the age at which certain sexual acts are lawful; to make it an offence for a person aged 18 or over to engage in sexual activity with or directed towards a person under that age if he is in a position of trust in relation to that person; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 10].
 
        Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Bill be printed [Bill 10-EN].
6Modernisation of the House of Commons,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House approves the First Report from the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons on the Parliamentary Calendar: Initial Proposals (HC 60)—(Margaret Beckett);
 
        And it being four hours after commencement of proceedings on the Motion, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Order [yesterday]:—It was agreed to.
 
        Resolved, That this House approves the First Report from the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons on the Parliamentary Calendar: Initial Proposals (HC 60).
7Sittings of the House,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That, with effect from Monday 11th January until the end of the present session of Parliament, the Standing Orders and practice of the House shall have effect subject to the modifications set out below:
 
        (1) The House shall meet on Thursdays at half-past eleven o'clock, and will first proceed with private business, motions for unopposed returns and questions;
 
        (2) proceedings on business on Thursdays shall be interrupted at seven o'clock; and
 
        (3) in their application to Thursday sittings of the House, reference to a specified time in the Standing Orders shall be interpreted as reference to a time three hours before the time so specified, save that reference to half-past ten o'clock shall be substituted for reference to twelve o'clock in Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on a specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration)—(Mr Mike Hall);
 
        An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word 'will' to the end of the Question and add the words:
 
        'proceed with public business, which may include a motion for the adjournment of the House;
 
        (2) at two o'clock on Thursdays, the Speaker shall interrupt the business without question put and the sitting shall be suspended until half-past two o'clock; the House will then proceed with private business, motions for unopposed returns and questions, after which any business interrupted at two o'clock shall be resumed;
 
        (3) proceedings on business on Thursdays shall be interrupted at seven o'clock; and
 
        (4) in their application to Thursday sittings of the House, reference to a specified time in the Standing Orders shall be interpreted as reference to a time three hours before the time so specified, save that reference to a quarter to three o'clock in Standing Order No. 20 (Time for taking private business), to half-past three o'clock in Standing Order No. 21 (Time for taking questions) and to twelve o'clock in Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) shall remain unaltered.'.—(Sir George Young.)
 
        Question put forthwith, pursuant to Order [yesterday], That the Amendment be made;
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Marion Roe, Mr John Bercow: 140.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Miss Melanie Johnson, Dr Phyllis Starkey: 311.
 
        So the Question was negatived.
 
        And the Main Question being put;
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Miss Melanie Johnson, Dr Phyllis Starkey: 325.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Marion Roe, Mr John Bercow: 120.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        Resolved, That, with effect from Monday 11th January until the end of the present session of Parliament, the Standing Orders and practice of the House shall have effect subject to the modifications set out below:
 
        (1) The House shall meet on Thursdays at half-past eleven o'clock, and will first proceed with private business, motions for unopposed returns and questions;
 
        (2) proceedings on business on Thursdays shall be interrupted at seven o'clock; and
 
        (3) in their application to Thursdays sittings of the House, reference to a specified time in the Standing Orders shall be interpreted as reference to a time three hours before the time so specified, save that reference to half-past ten o'clock shall be substituted for reference to twelve o'clock in Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on a specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration).
8Meetings of Standing Committees,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [yesterday], That, with effect from Monday 11th January 1999 until the end of the present Session of Parliament, the Standing Orders and practice of the House shall have effect subject to the modifications set out below:
 
         Meetings of standing committees
 
        Standing Committees shall have leave to sit at any hour and notwithstanding any adjournment of the House, subject to the following provisions:
 
          (a) on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays when the House is sitting, no standing committee sitting at Westminster shall sit between the hours of one o'clock and half-past three o'clock, except as provided in paragraph (2) of Standing Order No. 88 (Meetings of standing committees); and
 
          (b) on Thursdays when the House is sitting, no standing committee sitting at Westminster shall sit between the hours of half-past eleven o'clock and half-past twelve o'clock, except as provided in paragraph (2) of Standing Order No. 88 (Meetings of standing committees) with the substitution in that paragraph of "half-past eleven o'clock" for "one o'clock" and "a quarter to twelve o'clock" for " a quarter past one o'clock".—(Mr Mike Hall.)
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Miss Melanie Johnson, Dr Phyllis Starkey: 307.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Jacqui Lait, Mr Dominic Grieve: 66.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        Resolved, That, with effect from Monday 11th January 1999 until the end of the present Session of Parliament, the Standing Orders and practice of the House shall have effect subject to the modifications set out below:
 
         Meetings of standing committees
 
        Standing Committess shall have leave to sit at any hour and notwithstanding any adjournment of the House, subject to the following provisions:
 
          (a) on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays when the House is sitting, no standing committee sitting at Westminster shall sit between the hours of one o'clock and half-past three o'clock, except as provided in paragraph (2) of Standing Order No. 88 (Meetings of standing committees); and
 
          (b) on Thursdays when the House is sitting, no standing committee sitting at Westminster shall sit between the hours of half-past eleven o'clock and half-past twelve o'clock, except as provided in paragraph (2) of Standing Order No. 88 (Meetings of standing committees) with the subsitution in that paragraph of "half-past eleven o'clock" for "one o'clock" and "a quarter to twelve o'clock" for "a quarter past one o'clock".
9Legal Aid and Advice (Scotland),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committess on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Criminal Legal Aid (Scotland) (Prescribed Proceedings) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1998, which were laid before this House on 1st December, be approved—(Mr David Jamieson):—It was agreed to.
10Legal Aid and Advice (Scotland),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Advice and Assistance (Assistance by Way of Representation) (Scotland) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1998, which were laid before this House on 1st December, be approved—(Mr David Jamieson):—It was agreed to.
11Education,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Financing of Maintained Schools Regulations 1998, which were laid before this House on 3rd December, be approved—(Mr David Jamieson):—It was agreed to.
12Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from Patricia Revell and Kate Coull, mothers of autistic children, for research into the safety of the MMR vaccine, for research into autism and for a register of autistic children, was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
13Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr David Jamieson);
 
        And it being Ten o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
14Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr David Jamieson.)
 
        And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-seven minutes past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.27 p.m.
Betty Boothroyd
Speaker        

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.

APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
1Legal Aid and Advice,—Draft Legal Aid (Prescribed Panels) Regulations 1998 [by Act] [Mr Geoffrey Hoon].
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
2Customs and Excise,—Excise Duty Point (External and Internal Community Transit Procedure) (Amendment) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3110), dated 14th December 1998 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].
3Education,—(1) Education (Determining School Admission Arrangements for the Initial Year) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3165), dated 16th December 1998, and
 
        (2) School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Admissions) (Modifications No. 2) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3130), dated 15th December 1998
 
    [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
4Health and Safety,—Chemicals (Hazard Information and Packaging for Supply) (Amendment) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3106), dated 10th December 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
5Local Government,—(1) Local Authorities (Goods and Services) (Public Bodies) (No. 6) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3095), dated 9th December 1998,
 
        (2) Local Government Act 1998 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Poole Borough Council) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3053), dated 8th December 1998; and
 
        (3) Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemptions) (Hastings and Luton Borough Councils) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 3114), dated 9th December 1998
 
    [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
6Universities of Oxford and Cambridge,—(1) Statute, dated 1st April 1998, made by the University of Cambridge, amending the Statutes of the University,
 
        (2) Statute, dated 13th May 1998, made by the Governing Body of Emmanuel College, Cambridge, amending the Statutes of the College,
 
        (3) Statute, dated 19th May 1998, made by the Governing Body of Corpus Christi College, Oxford, amending the Statutes of the College, and
 
        (4) Statute, dated 15th June 1998, made by the Governing Body of St. Hugh's College, Oxford, amending the Statutes of the College
 
    [by Act] [Margaret Beckett].
Other Papers:
7Appropriation Accounts, 1997-98,—Appropriation Account of sums granted by Parliament for 1997-98 for Class XII (Social Security) [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1-xii] [Dawn Primarolo].
8Broadcasting,—Statement of principles and administrative arrangements of qualifying revenue and multiplex revenue by the Independent Television Commission [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].
9Competition,—Paper, entitled Our Competitive Future: Building the Knowledge Driven Economy [Cm. 4176] [by Command] [Mr Secretary Mandelson].
10Forestry,—(1) Account of the Forestry Commission for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 11] [Dawn Primarolo].
 
        (2) Accounts of the Forestry Fund for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act); to be printed [No. 117] [Clerk of the House].
 
        (3) Reports and Accounts of:
 
          (i) Forest Enterprise,
 
          (ii) Forest Research, and
 
          (iii) the Forestry Commission
 
    for 1997-98; with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 12, 13 and 11] [Mr Nicholas Brown].
11Hong Kong (No. 4, 1998),—Agreement, done at Hong Kong on 30th July 1998, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China for the Promotion and Protection of Investments [by Command] [Cm. 4173] [Mr Secretary Cook].
12International Monetary Arrangments,—Indemnity given by the Treasury to the Bank of England covering its commitment to the Bank for International Settlements in respect of a loan to Brazil [by Act] [Ms Patricia Hewitt].
13Local Government Finance,—Accounts of the Scottish Office Development Department Non-Domestic Rating for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 119] (Clerk of the House].
14Local Government (Scotland),—Accounts of the Scottish Children's Reporter Administration for 1997-98, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 120] [Clerk of the House].
15National Health Service,—Statement of Guarantee given by the Department of Health on 14th December on temporary borrowing by the Queen Mary's Sidcup National Health Service Trust from National Westminster Bank PLC [by Act] [Mr Secretary Dobson].
16Policyholders Protection,—Statement by the Treasury under section 28 of the Policyholders Protection Act 1975 concerning assistance given by the Policyholders Protection Board to—
 
        (1) BAI (Run-Off) Limited, and
 
        (2) Black Sea and Baltic General Insurance Company Limited
 
    [by Act] [Ms Patricia Hewitt].
17Science and Technology,—Accounts of the:
 
        (1) Medical Research Council, and
 
        (2) Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council (PPARC)
 
    for 1997-98, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 118 and 121] [Clerk of the House].
18Treaty Series (No. 58, 1998),—Agreement, concluded at Stockholm on 27th-28th February 1996, concerning Specific Stability Requirements for Ro-Ro Passenger Ships undertaking Regular Scheduled International Voyages between or to or from Designated Ports in North West Europe and the Baltic Sea [by Command] [Cm. 4180] [Mr Secretary Cook].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1Greater London Authority Bill (except Clauses 1 to 4 and Schedules 1 and 2):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee A, and has appointed Mr Nicholas Winterton and Mr Edward O'Hara Chairmen; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed twenty-nine Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Peter Brooke, Ms Karen Buck, Mr Paul Burstow, Sir Sydney Chapman, Mr Iain Coleman, Mr Keith Darvill, Mr Edward Davey, Mr Andrew Dismore, Mr Jim Dowd, Jim Fitzpatrick, Mr Eric Forth, Mr Mike Gapes, Mrs Eileen Gordon, Kate Hoey, Mr Simon Hughes, Glenda Jackson, Mr Ken Livingstone, Siobhain McDonagh, Mr John McDonnell, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Richard Ottaway, Ms Linda Perham, Mr Stephen Pound, Mr John Randall, Mr Nick Raynsford, Joan Ryan, Mr John Smith, Mr John M. Taylor and Mr John Wilkinson.
2Draft Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 1999 and the draft Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 1999:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Orders to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Bill Olner Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Peter Bottomley, Ann Clwyd, Mr Michael Colvin, Mr Stephen Day, Mr David Drew, Mr Frank Field, Mr Damian Green, Mr David Jamieson, Mr Paul Keetch, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Jim Marshall, Mr George Mudie, Mr Allan Rogers, Debra Shipley, Mr David Taylor and Mr Phil Willis.
3Income Support (General) (Standard Interest Rate Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 2878):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Humfrey Malins Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has appointed sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Ms Diane Abbott, Mr Peter Bradley, Mr Tim Collins, Angela Eagle, Mr David Faber, Mr Paul Goggins, Mrs Teresa Gorman, Mr Kevin Hughes, Ann Keen, Mr Mark Oaten, Mrs Diana Organ, Mr Tom Pendry, Mr Eric Pickles, Miss Geraldine Smith, Steve Webb and Audrey Wise.
Grand Committees
4The Speaker has appointed Mrs Ray Michie Chairman of the Scottish Grand Committee in respect of the meeting of the Committee in Edinburgh on Monday 18th January.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee [Highly able children]; to be printed [No. 22-iii] [Mr Malcolm Wicks].
2Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—(1) First Report from the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Millennium Compliance of the Transport Industry]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 90];
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Integrated Transport White Paper]; to be printed [No. 32-ii]; and
 
        (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Eurostar Regional Services]; to be printed [No. 89-ii]
 
    [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
3European Scrutiny,—Fourth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 34-iv] [Mr Jimmy Hood]
4Foreign Affairs,—Part of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [Sierra Leone]; to be printed [No. 116-i] [Mr Donald Anderson].
5Northern Ireland Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [Operation of the Fair Employment (Northern Ireland) Act 1989: Ten Years On]; to be printed [No.95-ii] [Mr Peter Brooke].
6Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Controls to Prevent and Detect Fraud in Family Practitioner Service Payments]; to be printed [No. 123-i] [Mr David Davis].
7Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration on 15th December [Annual Report of the Health Service Ombudsman for 1997-98]; to be printed [No. 56-ii] [Mr Rhodri Morgan].
8Science and Technology,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [Engineering and Physical Sciences Based Innovation]; to be printed [No. 17-v] [Dr Michael Clark].
9Social Security,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Social Security Committee [Child Benefit]; to be printed [No.114-i] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].
CORRIGENDUM
In the Votes and Proceedings of 15th December, Appendix III, item 6 should have appeared as follows:
Scottish Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Scottish Affairs Committee on 14th December [Inward/Outward Investment in Scotland]; to be printed [No. 84-iii] [Mr David Marshall].


THE SPEAKER'S CERTIFICATE
The Speaker certified that the Consolidated Fund Bill is a Money Bill within the meaning of the Parliament Act 1911.



 
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