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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 9th June 1998

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1Message from the Lords,--A Message was received from the Lords, as follows:
 
        The Lords have agreed to the Community Care (Residential Accommodation) Bill, without Amendment.
2Youth Parliament,--Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to establish a parliament of young people in the United Kingdom; to make provisions for the powers and functions of that parliament; and for connected purposes: And that Mr Andrew Rowe, Mrs Llin Golding, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Giles Radice and Mr Anthony Steen do prepare and bring it in.
3Youth Parliament Bill,--Mr Andrew Rowe accordingly presented a Bill to establish a parliament of young people in the United Kingdom; to make provisions for the powers and functions of the parliament; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 3rd July and to be printed [Bill 199].
4Teaching and Higher Education Bill [Lords] (Consideration and Third Reading) [2nd allotted day],--The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the Teaching and Higher Education Bill [Lords], as amended in the Standing Committee.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 120) proposed to the Bill, in page 3, to leave out lines 15 to 26 and to insert the words--
 
        '(2) Those matters are:
 
          (a) the standards of professional conduct of teachers;
 
          (b) the standards of medical fitness required to teach;
 
          (c) the powers which it needs to perform its functions under section 2 of this Act;
 
          (d) recruitment to the teaching profession;
 
          (e) the training and career development of teachers;
 
          (f) methods of teaching;
 
          (g) methods of assessing the performance of individual teachers; and
 
          (h) methods of assessing the effectiveness of different methods of teaching.' instead thereof.--(Mrs Theresa May.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:--Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 82, 83, 10 and 11) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Scottish Further Education Funding Council: "relevant body" for purposes of section 19(5) of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995)--(Mr Brian Wilson)--brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Unauthorised use of "university" in title of educational institution, etc)--(Dr Kim Howells)--brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (University college, etc., not to be treated as university)--(Dr Kim Howells)--brought up, read the first time and second time, and added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Charitable status of further and higher education corporations)--(Dr Kim Howells)--brought up, read the first and second time, and added to the Bill.
 
        A Clause (Compensation of employers)--(Mr Damien Green)--brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time.
 
        And two hours having elapsed, since the commencement of proceedings on the Bill, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [8th June], put the Question already proposed from the Chair.
 
        Question, That the Clause be read a second time, put and negatived.
 
        The Deputy Speaker then put forthwith the Question on Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to the remainder of the Bill.
 
        Amendments (Nos. 55 to 57, 73, 99, 75, 58 to 61, 68, 74, 62 and 63, 78 to 81 and 64) made to the Bill.
 
        Title accordingly amended, as follows: An Act to make provision for the establishment of General Teaching Councils for England and Wales and with respect to the registration, qualifications and training of teachers and the inspection of such training; to make new provision with respect to grants and loans to students in higher or further education and fees payable by them; to make provision with respect to the funding of higher education institutions and certain further education, and other matters relating to further and higher education institutions; to enable the higher and further education funding councils in Scotland to discharge certain functions jointly; to enable young persons to have time off work for study or training; to make provision with respect to the inspection of training and careers services provided in pursuance of arrangements or directions under the Employment and Training Act 1973; to provide that the Scottish Further Education Funding Council shall be a relevant body for the purposes of section 19(5) of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; and for connected purposes.
 
        A Motion made and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read the third time;
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr David Jamieson, Mr David Clelland: 307.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Sir David Madel, Mrs Caroline Spelman: 174.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed, with Amendments.
5European Communities (Amendment) Bill [Allocation of time],--Ordered, That the Order of the House of 17th December 1997 be supplemented as follows:
 
Lords Amendment
 
        1.--(1) Proceedings on Consideration of the Lords Amendment shall be completed at this day's sitting and, if not previously concluded, shall be brought to a conclusion three hours after the commencement of proceedings on this Order.
 
         (2) For the purpose of bringing proceedings to a conclusion the Speaker shall put forthwith the Question already proposed from the Chair (and any other Question necessary to dispose of the proceedings).
 
Stages subsequent to first Consideration of Lords Amendment
 
        2.--(1) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the consideration forthwith of any further Message from the Lords on the Bill.
 
         (2) The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement.
 
         (3) For the purpose of bringing those proceedings to a conclusion the Speaker shall put forthwith any Question necessary to dispose of the proceedings.
 
Reasons Committee
 
        3.--(1) The Speaker shall put forthwith the Question on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons and the appointment of its Chairman.
 
         (2) A Committee appointed to draw up Reasons shall report before the conclusion of the sitting at which it is appointed.
 
Miscellaneous
 
        4.--(1) In the case of proceedings on Consideration of the Lords Amendment, on any further Message from the Lords or on a Motion relating to a Committee to draw up Reasons--
 
          (a) Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply,
 
          (b) the proceedings shall not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House,
 
          (c) no dilatory Motion with respect to, or in the course of, the proceedings shall be made except by a Minister of the Crown (in which case the Question on the Motion shall be put forthwith),
 
          (d) if the proceedings are interrupted by a Motion for the Adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) a period equal to the duration of the proceedings on the Motion shall be added to the period allowed for the interrupted proceedings, and
 
          (e) if the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the proceedings are concluded, no notice shall be required of a Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order.--(Mr Doug Henderson).
6European Communities (Amendment) Bill (Consideration of Lords Amendment),--The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendment to the European Communities (Amendment) Bill.
 
        A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in the said Amendment--(Mr Doug Henderson);
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mr Jim Dowd: 330.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Sir David Madel, Mrs Caroline Spelman: 134.
 
        So the Question was agreed to.
 
        The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
 
        Ordered, That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendment.
 
        That Mr Doug Henderson, Mr Denis McShane, Sir David Madel, Mr Patrick Nicholls and Mr Greg Pope be members of the Committee;
 
        That Mr Doug Henderson be the Chairman of the Committee;
 
        That three be the Quorum of the Committee;
 
        That the Committee do withdraw immediately--(Jane Kennedy.)
7Private Hire Vehicles (London) Bill,--The Order for the House to resolve itself into a Committee on the Private Hire Vehicles (London) Bill on Friday 3rd July was read and discharged.
 
        Ordered, That the Bill be committed to a Standing Committee.--(Jane Kennedy.)
8European Communities (Amendment) Bill,--Mr Doug Henderson reported from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendment to the European Communities (Amendment) Bill, That it had drawn up the following Reason, which it had directed him to report to the House:
 
        The Commons disagree to the Amendment made by the Lords after Clause 1, for the following Reason:--
 
        Because it would not be appropriate to restrict commencement of the Act in the way proposed.
 
        The Reason was agreed to.
 
        Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reason with the Bill and Amendment.
9Adjournment,--Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.--(Jane Kennedy.)
 
        And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-one minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 10.39 p.m.
Betty Boothroyd
Speaker        

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.

APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1Local Government (Scotland),--(1) Local Government Act 1988 (Competition) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1422),
 
        (2) Local Government Act 1988 (Exemption for Works Contracts) (Scotland) Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1423), and
 
        (3) Local Government (Exemption from Competition) (Scotland) Amendment Order 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1421),
 
    dated 5th June 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Dewar].
2National Debt,--Draft Government Stock (Amendment) Regulations 1998 [by Act] [Mrs Helen Liddell].
3Road Traffic,--Driving Licenses (Community Driving Licence) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1420), dated 6th June 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].
4Social Security,--(1) Social Security (Claims and Payments) Amendment Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1381), dated 3rd June 1998, and
 
        (2) Social Security (Student Amounts Amendment) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1379), dated 2nd June 1998
 
    [by Act] [Secretary Harriet Harman].
Other Papers:
5Local Government (Scotland),--Security and Emergency Measures (Water and Sewerage Authorities) (Scotland) Direction 1998, dated 4th June 1998 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Dewar].
6Scottish Land Court,--Report as to the proceedings of the Scottish Land Court for 1997 [by Command] [Cm. 3970] [Mr Secretary Dewar].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
Draft Producer Responsibility Obligations (Northern Ireland) Order 1998,--The Committee of Selection has discharged from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation Ms Jenny Jones (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Kelvin Hopkins.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1Agriculture,--(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Agriculture Committee on 9th June [Flood and coastal defence]; to be printed [No. 707-iii]; and
 
        (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Flood and coastal defence; vitamin B6]
 
    [Mr Peter Luff].
2Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee on 9th June [English Nature]; to be printed [No. 790-i] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].
3Foreign Affairs,--Part of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee on 9th June [The Public Expenditure Plans of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, 1998-99]; to be printed [No. 745-ii] [Mr Donald Anderson].
4Home Affairs,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee on 9th June [Electoral law and administration]; to be printed [No. 768-ii] [Mr Chris Mullin].
5International Development,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee on 9th June [Conflict Prevention and Post-Conflict Reconstruction]; to be printed [No. 787-i] [Mr Bowen Wells].
6Modernisation of the House of Commons,--Seventh Report from the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons [The Scrutiny of European Business], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 791] [Mrs Ann Taylor].
7Statutory Instruments,--Thirty-Sixth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 33-xxxvi] [M David Tredinnick].
8Trade and Industry,--Sixth Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [Small and Medium-Sized Enterprises], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 471] [Mr Martin O'Neill].



 
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