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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 12th May 1998

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1Deregulation Committee,--Mr Peter L. Pike reported from the Deregulation Committee the following Resolution:
 
        That, in respect of the proposal for the Deregulation (Exchangeable Driving Licences) Order 1998, which was laid before this House on 25th March, a draft Order in the same terms as the proposal should be laid before the House.
 
        That the draft Deregulation (Deduction from Pay of Union Subscriptions) Order 1998, which was laid before this House on 5th May, should be approved.
 
The Committee came to this Resolution without a Division.
2National Lottery Bill [Lords],--Mr Roger Gale reported from Standing Committee A, That it had gone through the National Lottery Bill [Lords], and made Amendments thereunto.
 
        Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow, and to be printed [Bill 187].
 
        Minutes of proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 736].
3Rural and Community Hospitals,--Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to establish procedures to place restrictions on the closure of rural and community hospitals: And that Mr David Prior, Mrs Gillian Shephard, Mr John MacGregor, Mr Keith Simpson, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr Christopher Fraser, Mr Richard Spring, Mr Damian Green, Mr James Gray, Mr Tim Loughton, Mr John Bercow and Mr Shaun Woodward do prepare and bring it in.
4Rural and Community Hospitals Bill,--Mr David Prior accordingly presented a Bill to establish procedures to place restrictions on the closure of rural and community hospitals: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 3rd July and to be printed [Bill 186].
5Scotland Bill (Programme),--A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith pursuant to Standing Order No. 82 (Business Committee), That the further Report [11th May] from the Business Committee be now considered--(Mr John McFall):--It was agreed to.
 
        Question put forthwith, That this House agrees with the Committee in its Resolution:--It was agreed to.
6Scotland Bill (Consideration and Third Reading) [2nd allotted day],--The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the Scotland Bill, as amended in the Committee.
 
        Another Clause (Corruption or maladministration in local government)--(Dr Liam Fox)--brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Oliver Heald, Sir David Madel: 132.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Kevin Hughes, Bridget Prentice: 323.
 
        Another Clause (Concordats)--(Mr Michael Ancram)--brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Oliver Heald, Sir David Madel: 166.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Kevin Hughes, Bridget Prentice: 278.
 
        Another Clause (Cross-border reserved bodies)--(Ms Roseanna Cunningham)--brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:--Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Another Clause (Constitutional Court)--(Mr Alex Salmond)--brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time.
 
        And two and a half hours having elapsed since the start of proceedings on consideration of the Bill this day, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [13th January] and Resolution [this day], put the Question already proposed from the Chair.
 
        Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Alisdair Morgan, Mr Andrew Welsh: 8.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Ms Janet Anderson, Mr Jim Dowd: 388.
 
        Amendment (No. 61) proposed to the Bill, in page 53, line 9, at the end, to insert the words--
 
        '(1A) The parliamentary constituencies to which paragraph 1(c) applies are those determined by the Parliamentary Constituencies (Scotland) Order 1995, or those Scottish Parliamentary constituencies determined following a report of the Boundary Commission for Scotland as determined by paragraph 3 of this Schedule, except a parliamentary constituency including either of those islands referred to in paragraphs 1(a) and 1(b).'.--(Mr James Wallace.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:--Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Amendment (No. 26) made to the Bill.
 
        And three and a half hours having elapsed, the Deputy Speaker proceeded to put the Questions necessary to dispose of the business required to be disposed of at that hour.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 27 to 38 and 128) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 39) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 106) proposed to the Bill, in page 10, line 5, at the end, to insert the words--
 
        '(3) The standing orders shall include a requirement for every member elected to the Scottish Parliament to be requested to make the following affirmation:
 
          "I do hereby acknowledge the sovereign right of the Scottish people to determine the form of Government best suited to their needs, and do hereby declare and pledge that in all our actions and deliberations their interests shall be paramount.".
 
    and no other affirmation or oath shall be required of members of the Scottish Parliament.'.--(Mr Dennis Canavan.)
 
        Question, That the Amendment be made, put and negatived.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 111) proposed, in page 57, line 39, after the word 'sub-committees' to insert the words 'other than regional committees and regional sub-committees.'.--(Mr Donald Gorrie.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made.
 
        And more than four and a half hours having elapsed, the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair.
 
        Question, That the Amendment be made, put and negatived.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 129 and 41 to 45) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 130) proposed to the Bill, in page 14, line 6, at the end, to insert the words 'or confer or remove functions exercisable otherwise than in or as regards Scotland'.--(Mr Secretary Dewar.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made.
 
        And five and a half hours having elapsed, the Deputy Speaker proceeded to put the Question already proposed from the Chair.
 
        Question, That the Amendment be made, put and agreed to.
 
        The Chairman then put forthwith the remaining Questions necessary to dispose of the business required to be disposed of at that hour.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 131 and 132, 223 to 229 and 256) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 16, to leave out lines 11 to 34.--(Mr Michael Ancram.)
 
        Question, That the Amendment be made, put and negatived.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 5) proposed to the Bill, in page 16, line 12, to leave out the words '(a) which the Secretary of State' and insert the words 'which the Secretary of State, having taken legal advice,' instead thereof.--(Mr Michael Ancram.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Oliver Heald: 132.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Janet Anderson, Mr Jim Dowd: 296.
 
        More than six and a half hours having elapsed since the commencement of proceedings on the Bill, further consideration of the Bill stood adjourned, pursuant to Resolution this day.
 
        Bill to be further considered to-morrow.
7Adjournment,--Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.--(Mr John McFall.)
 
        And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till fifteen minutes to Twelve o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 11.45 p.m.
Betty Boothroyd
Speaker        

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.

APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:
1Northern Ireland,--Draft Fire Services (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 1998 [by Act] [Secretary Marjorie Mowlam].
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
2Agriculture,--Action Programme for Nitrate Vulnerable Zones (England and Wales) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1202), dated 7th May 1998 [by Act] [Dr John Cunningham].
3Consumer Credit,--Consumer Credit Licensing (Appeals) Regulations 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1203), dated 10th May 1998 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].
4Pensions,--Pensions Appeal Tribunals (England and Wales) (Amendment) Rules 1998 (S.I., 1998, No. 1201), dated 8th May 1998 [by Act] [Mr Geoffrey Hoon].
Other Papers:
5Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions,--Naval and Marine Pay and Pensions (Hong Kong Locally Engaged Ratings' Service Pensions Increases) Order 1998, dated 22nd April 1998 [by Act] [Mrs Ann Taylor].
APPENDIX II
Reports from Select Committees
1Agriculture,--(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Agriculture Committee on 12th May [Flood and coastal defence]; to be printed [No. 707-ii]; and
 
        (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Flood and coastal defence; vitamin B6]
 
    [Mr Peter Luff].
2Deregulation,--Fifth Report from the Deregulation Committee [Proposal for the Deregulation (Exchangeable Driving Licences) Order 1998 and the draft Deregulation (Deduction from Pay of Union Subscriptions) Order 1998]; to be printed, together with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 732] [Mr Peter L. Pike].
3Environmental Audit,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environmental Audit Committee on 12th May [Greening Government]; to be printed [No. 517-viii] [Mr John Horam].
4Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee on 12th May [Implementation of the Best Value Framework]; to be printed [No. 705-ii] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].
5Foreign Affairs,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee on 12th May [Foreign Policy and Human Rights]; to be printed [No. 369-viii] [Mr Donald Anderson].
6Home Affairs,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee on 12th May [Immigration and nationality issues]; to be printed [No. 734-i] [Mr Chris Mullin].
7Public Administration,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the Public Administration Committee on 12th May [The 1998 Report of the Office of Public Service]; to be printed [No. 733] [Mr Rhodri Morgan].
8Standards and Privileges,--Sixteenth Report from the Committee on Standards and Privileges [Complaint against Mr Stephen Dorrell], together with an Appendix (Memorandum by the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards); to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 735] [Mr Robert Sheldon].
9Statutory Instruments,--Thirty-Third Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 12th May and Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 33-xxxiii] [Mr David Tredinnick].
10Welsh Affairs,--(1) Second Report from the Welsh Affairs Committee [The Present Crisis in the Welsh Livestock Industry], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 447]; and
 
        (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [The Present Crisis in the Welsh Livestock Industry]
 
    [Mr Martyn Jones].


CORRIGENDUM
In the Votes and Proceedings for Wednesday 6th May, Appendix III, Item 11 should have read as follows:
Scottish Affairs,--Minutes of Evidence taken before the Scottish Affairs Committee on 6th May [The Work of the Scottish Sports Council and Inward Investment into Scotland]; to be printed [Nos. 738 and 698-ii] [Mr David Marshall].



 
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