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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 15th November 2005

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Council Tax (New Valuation Lists for England) Bill,—Janet Anderson reported from Standing Committee A, That it had gone through the Council Tax (New Valuation Lists for England) Bill, and directed her to report the same, without Amendment.

    Bill, not amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

2    National Insurance Contributions Bill,—Sir John Butterfill reported from Standing Committee D, That it had gone through the National Insurance Contributions Bill, and directed him to report the same, without Amendment.

    Bill, not amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mrs Joan Humble reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Employment (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Greg Pope reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (WIPO Copyright Treaty and WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty) Order 2005.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

5    Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr David Marshall reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Healthy Start Scheme and Welfare Food (Amendment) Regulations 2005.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

6    Pardon for Soldiers of the Great War Bill,—Andrew Mackinlay, supported by Chris Bryant, Paul Flynn, Mr Jim Cunningham, Mr Jeffrey M. Donaldson, David Taylor, Mr David Chaytor, Jim Sheridan, Angus Robertson and Ms Katy Clark, presented a Bill to provide the granting of pardons to soldiers of the British Empire forces executed during the Great War of 1914 to 1919 following conviction for offences of cowardice, desertion or attempted desertion, disobedience, quitting post, violence, sleeping at post, throwing away arms or striking a superior officer; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 2nd December and to be printed [Bill 87].

7    Electoral Systems Bill,—Mr David Chaytor, supported by Richard Burden, Mr John Denham, Mr Mike Hall, Nick Harvey and Mr David Heath, presented a Bill to provide for the holding of referendums about methods of election to the House of Commons and to local authorities; to enable a specified number of electors to require the holding of such a referendum; to require the Electoral Commission to establish a Citizen's Assembly to perform functions in relation to referendums; to provide for the adoption by a local authority of a different method of election; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 16th June and to be printed [Bill 88].

8    Protection of Runaway and Missing Children,—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make provision for a national system to safeguard runaway and missing children; to make provision for the collection and reporting of information about runaway and missing children; to make provision for co-ordination between local authorities and other bodies; and for connected purposes: And that Helen Southworth, John Battle, Ann Keen, Rosemary McKenna, Liz Blackman, Dan Norris, Ms Dari Taylor, Paddy Tipping, Laura Moffatt, Kitty Ussher, Peter Bottomley and Mr Paul Burstow do prepare and bring it in.

9    Protection of Runaway and Missing Children Bill,—Helen Southworth accordingly presented a Bill to make provision for a national system to safeguard runaway and missing children; to make provision for the collection and reporting of information about runaway and missing children; to make provision for co-ordination between local authorities and other bodies; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 12th May and to be printed [Bill 86].

10    Opposition Day [9th allotted day],—It being an allotted day at the disposal of the Leader of the Opposition in pursuance of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), the House proceeded to consider Opposition business.

    Consequences of NHS Financial Deficits,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House supports the provision by the NHS of comprehensive, high quality health services, based on need and not ability to pay; notes that, despite unprecedented resources provided to the NHS, NHS trusts were over 600 million in deficit in 2004-05 and predicts deficits approaching 1 billion this year; believes that these deficits threaten the delivery of NHS services, through service cuts, freezing of staff vacancies and redundancies, bed closures and the closure of services in community hospitals; further believes that the uncertainty caused by proposed primary care trust restructuring should not be used to obscure responsibility for financial recovery and service continuity; wishes to see resources reach front-line healthcare providers; regrets the lack of savings in NHS overhead and administration costs; and calls on the Government to intervene to ensure that the long-term interests of patients are not damaged by short-term financial decisions—(Mr Andrew Lansley);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'welcomes the Government's record levels of investment in the National Health Service, with expenditure set to rise to over 92 billion by 2007-08; notes that by this date 70 billion, more than ever before, will be going to the NHS front line; congratulates the Government on delivering investment and reform, leading to historic improvements to NHS services and capacity, reducing waiting times to their lowest in nearly a generation, from over two years to a maximum of six months, and to a maximum of 18 weeks by 2008, employing nearly a quarter of a million more NHS staff than in 1997, including 78,700 more nurses and 27,400 more doctors, and undertaking the largest hospital building programme in the history of the NHS, including investing 100 million in a community hospitals programme; further notes that the NHS has achieved overall financial balance in each of the past four years, and last year carried a deficit of around only 0.4 per cent. of total resources; compares this with the record of the previous Government which left the NHS with a 460 million deficit in 1996-97 which amounted to almost 1.5 per cent. of total resources; and agrees that, given the record increases in health funding available coupled with the strengthening of Primary Care Trust commissioning, all NHS organisations should be able to live within the resources available to them and to provide excellent services to their populations', instead thereof.—(Ms Secretary Hewitt.)

    And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Henry Bellingham, Andrew Selous: 231.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Dave Watts, Mr Frank Roy: 312.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):—It was agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House welcomes the Government's record levels of investment in the National Health Service, with expenditure set to rise to over 92 billion by 2007-08; notes that by this date 70 billion, more than ever before, will be going to the NHS front line; congratulates the Government on delivering investment and reform, leading to historic improvements to NHS services and capacity, reducing waiting times to their lowest in nearly a generation, from over two years to a maximum of six months, and to a maximum of 18 weeks by 2008, employing nearly a quarter of a million more NHS staff than in 1997, including 78,700 more nurses and 27,400 more doctors, and undertaking the largest hospital building programme in the history of the NHS, including investing 100 million in a community hospitals programme; further notes that the NHS has achieved overall financial balance in each of the past four years, and last year carried a deficit of around only 0.4 per cent. of total resources; compares this with the record of the previous Government which left the NHS with a 460 million deficit in 1996-97 which amounted to almost 1.5 per cent. of total resources; and agrees that, given the record increases in health funding available coupled with the strengthening of Primary Care Trust commissioning, all NHS organisations should be able to live within the resources available to them and to provide excellent services to their populations.

    Licences and Licensing (S.I., 2005, No. 2091),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that the Licensing Act 2003 (Second appointed day) Order 2005 (S.I. 2005, No. 2091), dated 27th July 2005, a copy of which was laid before this House on 29th July, be annulled—(David Maclean);

The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Andrew Selous, Mr Peter Atkinson: 228.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Frank Roy, Mr Dave Watts: 302.

So the Question was negatived.

    Oversight of the Ministerial Code,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes the recommendation made by the Committee on Standards in Public Life that there should be an independent Adviser on Ministerial Interests; and insists that the Government should immediately begin the process of establishing such a position—(Chris Grayling);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'acknowledges that, amongst other measures, this Government introduced a requirement for individual Ministers, on appointment to each new office, to provide their Permanent Secretary with a full list in writing of all interests which might be thought to give rise to a conflict; welcomes the section of the Ministerial Code on handling Ministers' private interests which is more comprehensive than Questions of Procedure for Ministers; and recognises that this Government has agreed to appoint an independent adviser to provide Permanent Secretaries and Ministers with an additional source of professional advice as required and will make an announcement on this shortly', instead thereof.—(Mr Jim Murphy.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;

    Mr Patrick McLoughlin rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:—It was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Henry Bellingham, Mr David Evennett: 229.

      Tellers for the Noes, Tony Cunningham, Joan Ryan: 288.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):—It was agreed to.

    The Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House acknowledges that, amongst other measures, this Government introduced a requirement for individual Ministers, on appointment to each new office, to provide their Permanent Secretary with a full list in writing of all interests which might be thought to give rise to a conflict; welcomes the section of the Ministerial Code on handling Ministers' private interests which is more comprehensive than Questions of Procedure for Ministers; and recognises that this Government has agreed to appoint an independent adviser to provide Permanent Secretaries and Ministers with an additional source of professional advice as required and will make an announcement on this shortly.

11    Marketing of Foods Derived from Genetically Modified Maize,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union Document No. 12197/05, draft Council Decision authorising the placing on the market of foods and food ingredients from genetically modified maize line MON863 as novel foods or novel food ingredients under Regulation (EC) No. 258/97; and supports the Government's view that products derived from this maize meet the necessary requirements for authorisation under Regulation (EC) No. 258/97—(Mr John Heppell);

    And the Deputy Speaker's opinion as to the decision of the Question being challenged, the Division was deferred till to-morrow, pursuant to Standing Order No. 41A (Deferred divisions).

12    Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from—

    (1) supporters of the Isitfair Council Tax protest campaign for a fair and equitable replacement for council tax [two Petitions]; and

    (2) Linzi Cooper, Emma Lavery, students of Bede College, residents of Bellingham and others for changes to the funding systems for colleges

    were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

13    Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr John Heppell.)

    And accordingly, the House, having continued to sit till fourteen minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.46 p.m.

Michael J. Martin

Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1    Northern Ireland,—Draft Legal Aid (Northern Ireland) Order 2005 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Bridget Prentice].

2    Social Security,—Draft Jobseeker's Allowance (Jobseeker Mandatory Activity) Pilot Regulations 2005 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hutton].

Other Papers:

3    Industrial Organisation and Development,—Account of the Industrial Organisation and Development Act 1947 for 2004-05, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 675] [Clerk of the House].

4    National Lottery,—(1) Account of the Scottish Arts Council National Lottery Distribution Fund for 2004-05; and

    (2) Report of the sportscotland Lottery Fund for 2004-05

    [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 631 and 643] [Mr Secretary Darling].

5    Northern Ireland,—(1) Annual Statements of the Department of Education—Teachers' Superannuation Scheme for 2004-05, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 499] [Mr Secretary Hain];

    (2) Resource Accounts of the—

      (i) Assembly Ombudsman for Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland Commissioner for Complaints;

      (ii) Department for Employment and Learning;

      (iii) Department for Regional Development;

      (iv) Department for Social Development;

      (v) Department of Agriculture and Rural Development;

      (vi) Department of Culture, Arts and Leisure;

      (vii) Department of Education;

      (viii) Department of Enterprise, Trade and Investment;

      (ix) Department of Finance and Personnel;

      (x) Department of Finance and Personnel—Superannuation and Other Allowances;

      (xi) Department of Health, Social Services and Public Safety;

      (xii) Department of Health, Social Services and Public Safety—Health and Personal Social Services Superannuation Scheme;

      (xiii) Department of the Environment;

      (xiv) Northern Ireland Assembly;

      (xv) Northern Ireland Authority for Energy Regulation;

      (xvi) Office of the First Minister and Deputy First Minister; and

      (xvii) Public Income and Expenditure of Northern Ireland

    for 2004-05, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [Nos. 510, 500, 493, 494, 511, 512, 498, 501, 503, 504, 505, 492, 502, 495, 496, 497 and 509] [Mr Secretary Hain]; and

    (3) Resource Accounts of the Food Standards Agency Northern Ireland for 2004-05, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 536] [Mr Secretary Hain].

6    Police (Northern Ireland),—Accounts of the Police Service of Northern Ireland for 2004-05, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 676] [Clerk of the House].

7    Reserve Forces,—Amendment 29 to the Territorial Army Regulations [by Act] [Secretary John Reid].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    National Insurance Contributions Bill,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Ian Lucus from Standing Committee D (nominated in respect of the Bill) and nominated in substitution Kali Mountford.

2    Draft Employment (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Northern Ireland) Order 2005,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Brian H. Donohoe, Dr Ian Gibson and Mr David Hamilton from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order) and nominated in substitution Paul Clark, Mary Creagh and Mrs Madeline Moon.

3    Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (WIPO Copyright Treaty and WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty) Order 2005,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Bruce George from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order) and nominated in substitution John Robertson.

4    Draft Healthy Start Scheme and Welfare Food (Amendment) Regulations 2005,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Dai Havard and Mr Iain Wright from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations) and nominated in substitution Kerry McCarthy and Anne Snelgrove.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1    Constitutional Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Constitutional Affairs Committee [Electoral administration]; to be printed [No. 640-ii] [Mr Alan Beith].

2    Culture, Media and Sport,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [Analogue Switch-Off]; to be printed [No. 650-ii] [Mr John Whittingdale].

3    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Avian Influenza]; together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 682-i]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Animal Welfare Bill]; together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 683-i]

    [Mr Michael Jack].

4    Scottish Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Scottish Affairs Committee [The Potential Benefits for Scotland of the 2012 Olympics]; to be printed [No. 658-ii] [Mr Mohammad Sarwar].

5    Trade and Industry,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [Royal Mail after liberalisation]; to be printed [570-iii] [Peter Luff].

[W.H., No. 37]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting began at half-past Nine o'clock.

Adjournment,—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mr Vernon Coaker.)

    And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 2 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst

Deputy Speaker



 
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