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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Thursday 3rd November 2005

The House met at half-past Ten o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    London Local Authorities and Transport for London Bill,—Mr Peter Lilley reported from the Committee on the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Bill, That it had agreed to a Special Report, which it had directed him to make to the House.

    Report, and so much of the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee as relates to the Report, to lie upon the Table; and to be printed [No.647].

2    National Lottery Bill,—Mr Roger Gale reported from Standing Committee A, That it had gone through the National Lottery Bill and made Amendments thereunto.

    Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Monday 7th November; and to be printed [Bill 72].

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    European Standing Committee,—Hugh Bayley reported from a European Standing Committee the following Resolution:

    That the Committee takes note of European Union Documents No. 8137/05, Commission Communication on Policy Coherence for Development: Accelerating progress towards attaining the Millennium Development Goals, No. 8138/05, Commission Communication on Speeding up progress towards the Millennium Development Goals—the European Union's contribution, and No. 8139/05, Commission Communication on Accelerating progress towards attaining the Millennium Development Goals—Financing for Development and Aid Effectiveness; and supports the Government's view that the EU's recognition that its non-aid policies have an important impact on developing countries' prospects for growth and development, including attaining the Millennium Development Goals; EU Member States' commitments to double annual EU aid to all developing countries by 2010, with at least 50 percent. of the agreed increase going to Africa, and to achieve the 0.7 percent. ODA/GNI target by 2015; and agreements on increased aid effectiveness under the Paris Declaration, untying of aid, trade-related assistance, multilateral debt relief and innovative financing in line with the outcomes of the UN Millennium Review Summit to take stock of progress towards the Millennium Development Goals.

    Resolution to lie upon the Table.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Terrorism Bill [2nd allotted day],—The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee on the Terrorism Bill.

    (In the Committee)

    Clauses Nos. 21 and 22 agreed to.

    Clause No. 5 (Preparation of terrorist acts).

    Amendment (No. 87) proposed, in page 7, line 22, after the word 'any', insert the word 'relevant'.—(Mr Alistair Carmichael.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Clause agreed to.

    Clause No. 6 (Training for terrorism).

    Amendment (No. 57) proposed, in page 7, line 32, to leave out the words 'or suspects'.—(Mr Dominic Grieve.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Another Amendment (No. 58) proposed, in page 8, line 26, at the end to insert the words—

    '(4A) It shall be a defence to an offence under section 6 (1), for the defendant to show that he reported any suspicion to the police or in the case of an employee to his employer or other person in authority over him.'.—(Mr Dominic Grieve.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made:

The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Andrew Selous, Mr Peter Atkinson: 219

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Gillian Merron: 315

    Clause agreed to.

Clause No. 7 agreed to.

    Clause No. 8 (Attendance at a place used for terrorist training).

    Amendment (No. 59) proposed, in page 10, line 13, at the end to add the words—

    (7) It shall be a defence to an offence under this section for a defendant to show on the balance of probabilities that his attendance at any place used for terrorist training was—

      (a) for the purpose of preventing the instruction or training taking place; or

      (b) for the purpose of gathering information about the instruction or training; or

      (c) involuntary.—(Mr Dominic Grieve.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made:

The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Andrew Selous, Mr Mark Prisk: 223

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Gillian Merron: 316

    Clause agreed to.

Clauses Nos. 9 to 11 agreed to.

    Clause No. 12 (Trespassing etc. on nuclear sites).

Amendments (Nos. 100 to 103) made. Clause, as amended, agreed to. Clauses Nos. 13 to 16 agreed to.

    Clause No. 17 (Commission of offences abroad).

    Amendment (No. 90) proposed, in page 16, line 3, to leave out the word 'and'.—(Mr David Heath.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made:

The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Sir Robert Smith, Andrew Selous: 211

      Tellers for the Noes, Tony Cunningham, Mr Ian Cawsey: 303

    The Chairman, being of the opinion that the principle of the Clause and any matters arising thereon had been adequately discussed in the course of debate on the Amendment proposed thereto, put forthwith the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 68 (Debate on clause or schedule standing part), That the Clause stand part of the Bill:—It was agreed to.

    Clause No. 18 (Liability of company directors etc.).

    Amendment (No. 104) proposed, in page 16, line 36, to leave out from the word 'of' to the end of line 37.—(Mr Dominic Grieve.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment by leave withdrawn.

    Clause agreed to.

    Clause No. 19 agreed to.

    Clause No. 20 (Interpretation of Part 1).

    Amendment (No. 33) proposed, in page 17, to leave out lines 31 to 33.—(Richard Burden.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    And it being Six o'clock, the Chairman put the remaining Questions necessary to bring proceedings in the Committee to a conclusion, pursuant to Order [26th October].

    Clause No. 20 agreed to.

    Schedule No. 1 agreed to.

    Clauses Nos. 25 to 27 agreed to.

    Schedule No. 2 agreed to.

    Clauses Nos. 28 to 36 agreed to.

    Schedule No. 3 agreed to.

    Clauses Nos. 37 and 38 agreed to.

    Whereupon the Chairman left the Chair to report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

    The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair, and Joan Ryan reported, That the Committee had gone through the Bill and directed her to report the same, with Amendments.

    Ordered, That the Bill, as amended in the Committee, be considered on Monday 7th November, and be printed [Bill 77].

5    Immigration,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Immigration (Provision of Physical Data) (Amendment) Regulations 2005, which were laid before this House on 10th October, be approved—(Joan Ryan):—It was agreed to.

6    Draft Budget of the European Communities for 2006,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of the Unnumbered Explanatory Memorandum from HM Treasury dated 1st June 2005 relating to the Preliminary Draft General Budget of the European Communities for the financial year 2006, and the letter from the Economic Secretary dated 26th August relating to the Draft Budget of the European Communities for the financial year 2006; and supports the Government's efforts to maintain budget discipline in the Community—(Joan Ryan):—It was agreed to.

7    Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from supporters of the Isitfair Council Tax protest campaign for a fair and equitable replacement for council tax [two Petitions] were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

8    Public Petition,—A Public Petition from residents of Birkenhead and others in support of the Animal Welfare Bill was presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

9    Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Ian Cawsey.)

    And accordingly, the House, having continued to sit till twenty-five minutes to Seven o'clock, adjourned till Monday 7th November.

[Adjourned at 6.35 p.m.

Michael J. Martin

Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock on Monday next.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1    Food,—Draft Healthy Start Scheme and Welfare Food (Amendment) Regulations 2005 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

2    International Immunities and Privileges,—Draft European Court of Human Rights (Immunities and Privileges) (Amendment) Order 2005 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Straw].

3    Investigatory Powers,—Draft Retention of Communications Data (Further Extension of Initial Period) Order 2005 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

4    Food and Environment Protection,—Code of Practice for using plant protection products [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

5    Land Drainage,—North-West, Severn-Trent and Welsh Regional Flood Defence Committees (Boundaries Alteration) Order 2005 (S.I., 2005, No. 3047), dated 24th September 2005 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

Other Papers:

6    Crime and Disorder,—Report and Accounts of the Youth Justice Board for 2004-05, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 571] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

7    Police,—Report of the Chief Surveillance Commissioner to the Prime Minister and to Scottish Ministers for 2004-05 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 444] [The Prime Minister].

8    Public Petitions,—(1) Observations by the Deputy Prime Minister on the Petition [11th October] from Len Barge, Lionel Hart, Albert Payne, Irene Willis and others for a Town Council for Canvey;

    (2) Observations by the Deputy Prime Minister on the Petitions [20th October [two Petitions]; 24th October; and 26th October [four Petitions]] from the Isitfair Council Tax protest campaign for a fair and equitable replacement for council tax; and

    (3) Observations by the Secretary of State for Transport on the Petition [21st July] from readers of the Faversham Times for lower speed limits on the A251 Ashford Road, including the villages of North Street, Sheldwich and Badlesmere

    [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

9    Regulation of Investigatory Powers,—Reports for 2004 of the—

    (1) Intelligence Services Commissioner; and

    (2) Interception of Communications Commissioner

    [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 548 and 549] [The Prime Minister].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Terrorism (Northern Ireland) Bill (Programming Sub-Committee),—The Speaker has appointed Mr Henry Bellingham, Lorely Burt, Mr Vernon Coaker, Mr Laurence Robertson, Lynda Waltho, Mr Shaun Woodward and Mr Iain Wright members of the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee E in respect of the Bill.

2    Terrorism (Northern Ireland) Bill,—The Speaker has appointed David Taylor and Ann Winterton Chairmen of Standing Committee E in respect of the Bill.

3    Draft Civil Partnership (Judicial Pensions and Church Pensions, etc.) Order 2005, draft Civil Partnership (House of Commons Members' Fund) Order 2005, draft Civil Partnership (Jurisdiction and Recognition of Judgements) Regulations 2005 and draft Civil Partnership (Family Proceedings and Housing Consequential Amendments) Order 2005,—The Speaker has appointed John Bercow Chairman of the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Orders and Regulations.

4    Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organisations) Order 2005 (S.I., 2005, No. 2558),—The Speaker has appointed Mr Bill Olner Chairman of the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Order.

5    Civil Contingencies Act 2004 (Contingency Planning) Regulations 2005 (S.I., 2005, No. 2042),—The Speaker has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman of the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Regulations.

6    Draft New Opportunities Fund (Specification of Initiatives) (No. 2) Order 2005,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Mike Weir Chairman of the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Order.

7    Draft Disability Discrimination (Private Clubs etc.) Regulations 2005,—The Speaker has appointed Hugh Bayley Chairman of the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Regulations.

    European Standing Committees

8    The Speaker has appointed Mrs Joan Humble Chairman of the European Standing Committee in respect of European Union Document Nos. 15570/04 and 15614/04 on Nominal Quantities for Pre-Packed Products.

9    The Speaker has appointed John Cummings Chairman of the European Standing Committee in respect of European Union Document No. 9758/05 on European Information Society for Growth and Employment.

10    The Speaker has appointed John Cummings Chairman of the European Standing Committee in respect of European Union Document No. 10514/05 on Common Agricultural Policy: Reform of the Sugar Sector.

11    The Speaker has appointed Hywel Williams Chairman of the European Standing Committee in respect of European Union Document Nos. 13686/04, 13687/04, 13688/04, 13689/04 and 13690/04 on EC External Action-New Instruments for Co-operation.

12    EU Documents Nos. 8137/05, 8138/05 and 8139/05 relating to the EU Contribution to achieving the UN Millennium Development Goals,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Richard Burden, Michael Jabez Foster and Mr David Hamilton from the European Standing Committee (nominated in respect of the Documents) and nominated in substitution Kelvin Hopkins, Dr Ashok Kumar and Mr Andy Reed.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

Health,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [Changes to Primary Care Trusts]; to be printed [No. 646-i] [Mr Kevin Barron].

[W.H., No. 33]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting began at half-past Two o'clock.

Adjournment (Twenty-seventh Annual Report from the House of Commons Commission),—Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mr Tom Watson.)

    And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 8th November.

[Adjourned at 5.53 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst

Deputy Speaker



 
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