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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 30th November 2004

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Sessional Returns,—Ordered, That there be laid before this House Returns for Session 2003-04 of information and statistics relating to—

    (1) Business of the House;

    (2) Closure of Debate, Proposal of Question and Allocation of Time (including Programme Motions);

    (3) Sittings of the House;

    (4) Private Bills and Private Business;

    (5) Public Bills;

    (6) Delegated Legislation and Regulatory Reform Orders;

    (7) European Legislation, etc;

    (8) Grand Committees;

    (9) Chairmen's Panel; and

    (10) Select Committees.—(The Chairman of Ways and Means.)

2    Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    Human Rights (Joint Committee),—The Lords communicate that they have appointed a Select Committee of six Lords to join with a Committee appointed by the Commons as the Joint Committee on Human Rights,

    To consider:

      (a) matters relating to human rights in the United Kingdom (but excluding consideration of individual cases);

      (b) proposals for remedial orders, draft remedial orders and remedial orders made under section 10 of and laid under Schedule 2 to the Human Rights Act 1998; and

      (c) in respect of draft remedial orders and remedial orders, whether the special attention of the House should be drawn to them on any of the grounds specified in Standing Order 74 (Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments);

    To report to the House:

      (a) in relation to any document containing proposals laid before the House under paragraph 3 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether a draft order in the same terms as the proposals should be laid before the House; or

      (b) in relation to any draft order laid under paragraph 2 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether the draft Order should be approved;

    and to have power to report to the House on any matter arising from its consideration of the said proposals or draft orders; and

    To report to the House in respect of any original order laid under paragraph 4 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether:

      (a) the order should be approved in the form in which it was originally laid before Parliament; or

      (b) that the order should be replaced by a new order modifying the provisions of the original order; or

      (c) that the order should not be approved,

    and to have power to report to the House on any matter arising from its consideration of the said order or any replacement order;

    That the Committee have power to agree with any Committee appointed by the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman;

    That the quorum of the Committee shall be two;

    That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;

    That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;

    That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;

    That the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Human Rights Committee in the last session of Parliament be referred to the Committee;

    That the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the Committee think fit, be printed.

3    Income Tax (Trading and Other Income) Bill,—Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer, supported by Ms Secretary Hewitt, Mr Secretary Johnson, Mr Paul Boateng, Dawn Primarolo, Mr Stephen Timms and John Healey, presented a Bill to restate, with minor changes, certain enactments relating to income tax on trading income, property income, savings and investment income and certain other income; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 9].

    Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Income Tax (Trading and Other Income) Bill be printed [Bill 9-EN].

4    Road Safety Bill,—Mr Secretary Darling, supported by the Prime Minister, Mr Secretary Prescott, Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr Secretary Blunkett, Mr Secretary Reid, Mr Secretary Murphy, Mr Secretary Hoon, Mr Peter Hain, Mr David Lammy, Mr David Jamieson and Charlotte Atkins, presented a Bill to make provision about road traffic, registration plates, vehicle and driver information, motorway picnic areas and private hire vehicles: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 10].

    Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Road Safety Bill be printed [Bill 10-EN].

5    Queen's Speech (Motion for an Address),—The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed on 23rd November, That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, as follows:

    Most Gracious Sovereign,

    We, Your Majesty's most dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Majesty for the Gracious Speech which Your Majesty has addressed to both Houses of Parliament;

    And the Question being again proposed:—The House resumed the adjourned Debate.

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, at the end, to add the words 'but deplore the absence of any measures in the Gracious Speech which would reduce the burden of centrally imposed targets, bureaucracy and regulation on the NHS and the Education Service; call on Ministers to implement urgently the action needed to deliver cleaner hospitals and to strengthen school discipline; regret the omission of measures to abolish top up fees; note that legislation to reduce the size of Ofsted will merely reverse part of the huge increases in its staffing levels since 1997; reject the Government's intention to impose additional fees on those attending further education colleges and deprecate the damage this will cause to adult and vocational education; further regret the carry over of the School Transport Bill, which will impose extra financial burdens on hard working families; are concerned at the failure to take forward legislation on mental health in a form that would protect the rights of people with mental health problems and promote their access to treatment; further regret the lack of any proposals in the Gracious Speech to provide effective public health services; and further deplore the absence of measures to promote freedom and independence for health and education professionals or effective choice of patients and parents.'.—(Mr Andrew Lansley.)

    And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Andrew Selous, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 178.

      Tellers for the Noes, Bridget Prentice, Gillian Merron: 305.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And it being after Seven o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.

    Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.

6    Draft Mental Health Bill (Joint Committee),—Ordered, That the Lords Message [29th November] relating to the draft Mental Health Bill be now considered.

    That this House concurs with the Lords in the said Resolution.

    That, in accordance with the Order of the House of 20th July in the last Session of Parliament, a Select Committee of twelve Members be appointed to join with a Committee appointed by the Lords, as the Joint Committee on the draft Mental Health Bill, with the same terms of reference, powers and membership as in the last Session and that the proceedings of the Joint Committee on the draft Mental Health Bill in the last Session of Parliament be referred to the Committee; and

    That the Committee do meet with the Committee appointed by the Lords on Wednesday 1st December at half-past Nine o'clock in the Boothroyd Room.—(Mr Vernon Coaker.)

    Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.

7    Section 5 of the European Communities (Amendment) Act 1993,—Ordered, That, for the purposes of its approval under section 5 of the European Communities (Amendment) Act 1993, the Government's assessment as set out in the Pre-Budget Report 2004 shall be treated as if it were an instrument subject to the provisions of Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation).—(Mr Vernon Coaker.)

8    Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from—

    (1) residents of Gidea Park, Romford against the extension of existing railway sidings to accommodate Crossrail; and

    (2) Mr Steve Hallam and others against the proposed closure of mental health care facilities at the Riverside Unit in Torbay

    were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

9    Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Vernon Coaker.)

    And accordingly, the House, having continued to sit till seventeen minutes to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 7.43 p.m.

Michael J. Martin

Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1    Constitutional Law,—National Assembly for Wales (Transfer of Records) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3137), dated 29th November 2004 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Peter Hain].

2    Family Proceedings,—Family Proceedings Fees Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3114), dated 25th November 2004 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Christopher Leslie].

3    Landlord and Tenant,—(1) Landlord and Tenant (Notice of Rent) (England) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3096), dated 22nd November 2004;

    (2) Leasehold Houses (Notice of Insurance Cover) (England) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3097), dated 23rd November 2004; and

    (3) Leasehold Valuation Tribunals (Procedure) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3098), dated 22nd November 2004

    [by Act], with Explanatory Memoranda thereon [by Command] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

4    Northern Ireland,—Employment Relations (Northern Ireland) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3078), dated 17th November 2004 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Christopher Leslie].

5    Supreme Court of England and Wales,—Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 3) Rules 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3129), dated 24th November 2004 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr David Lammy].

6    Supreme Court of England and Wales,—(1) Civil Proceedings Fees Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3121); and

    (2) Non-Contentious Probate Fees Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 3120),

    dated 25th November 2004 [by Act], with Explanatory Memoranda thereon [by Command] [Mr Christopher Leslie].

Other Papers:

7    National Lottery,—Accounts of the National Endowment for Science, Technology and the Arts for 2003-04, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 23] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

8    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister,—Government Response to the Eleventh Report of the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee, Session 2003-04, on the Role of Historic Buildings in Urban Regeneration [by Command] [Cm. 6420] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

9    Public Petitions,—Observations by the Secretary of State for the Home Office on the Petition [11th October 2004] from residents of Gloucester for joint working between the Government, police, retail employers and shop workers to tackle retail crime [by Standing Order] [Clerk of the House].

APPENDIX II

Reports from Select Committees

1    Constitutional Affairs,—First Report from the Constitutional Affairs Committee [Freedom of Information Act 2000 — progress towards implementation], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [Nos. 79-I and -II] [Mr A. J. Beith].

2    Culture, Media and Sport,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [Public Libraries]; to be printed [No. 81-i] [Sir Gerald Kaufman].

3    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-Committee on the Government's Rural Delivery Strategy of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [The Government's Rural Delivery Strategy]; to be printed [No. 83-i] [Mr Michael Jack].

4    Foreign Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [Western Balkans]; to be printed [No. 87-i] [Mr Donald Anderson].

5    Home Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee [Anti-Social Behaviour]; to be printed [No. 80-i] [Mr John Denham].

6    International Development,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee, together with Appendices [The European Union's trade agreements with African, Caribbean and Pacific countries]; to be printed [No. 68-i] [Tony Baldry].

7    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [Homelessness]; to be printed [No. 61-i] [Andrew Bennett].

8    Standards and Privileges,—First Report from the Committee on Standards and Privileges [Conduct of Mr Anthony Steen], with an Appendix; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 71] [Sir George Young].

9    Statutory Instruments,—First Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 66-i] [Mr David Tredinnick].

10    Trade and Industry,—(1) First Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [The Electricity Distribution Networks: Lessons from the storms of October 2002 and Future investment in the networks]; to be printed [No. 89]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [UK Employment Regulation: Crown Post Offices];to be printed [Nos. 90-i and 91-i]

    [Mr Martin O'Neill].

11    Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [Bank of England November 2004 Inflation Report]; to be printed [No. 48-ii] [Mr John McFall].

12    Welsh Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Police Service, Crime and Anti-Social Behaviour in Wales]; to be printed [No. 46-i] [Mr Martyn Jones].



 
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