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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 15th November 2004

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Royal Assent,—The Speaker notified the House, in accordance with the Royal Assent Act 1967, That Her Majesty had signified her Royal Assent to the following Acts, agreed upon by both Houses:

      Domestic Violence, Crime and Victims Act 2004

      Highways (Obstruction by Body Corporate) Act 2004

      Human Tissue Act 2004

      Children Act 2004.

2    Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    The Lords have agreed to the Pensions Bill, with Amendments; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

    The Lords have agreed to the Hunting Bill, with Amendments; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

3    Pensions Bill,—Lords Amendments to the Pensions Bill to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 178].

4    Hunting Bill,—Lords Amendments to the Hunting Bill to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 179].

5    Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider a Lords Amendment in lieu of an Amendment to which the Commons have disagreed.

    Lords Amendment No. 2C.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment—(Mr Ivor Caplin);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nick Ainger, Mr John Heppell: 260.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Crispin Blunt, Mr John Randall: 160.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 6th November 2003 (Programming of Bills)], That a Committee be appointed to draw up a Reason to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendment No. 2C;

    That Mrs Liz Blackman, Mr Colin Breed, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Vernon Coaker and Mr Gerald Howarth be members of the Committee;

    That Mr Ivor Caplin be the Chairman of the Committee;

    That three be the Quorum of the Committee;

    That the Committee do withdraw immediately—(Mr Vernon Coaker):—It was agreed to.

6    Pensions Bill [Ways and Means],—Resolved, That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Pensions Bill, it is expedient to authorise the levying of charges by virtue of the Act for the purpose of meeting expenditure of the Secretary of State to or in respect of the Ombudsman for the Board of the Pension Protection Fund.—(Malcolm Wicks.)

7    Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Bill,—Mr Ivor Caplin reported from the Committee appointed to draw up a Reason to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendment No. 2C to the Armed Forces (Pensions and Compensation) Bill, That it had drawn up the following Reason, which it had directed him to report to the House:

    The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 2C for the following Reason:—

      Because it involves a charge on public funds, and the Commons do not offer any further Reason, trusting that this Reason may be deemed sufficient.

    The Reason was agreed to.

    Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reason, with the Bill and Amendments.

8    Legal Services Commission,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Criminal Defence Service (Choice in Very High Cost Cases) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2004, which were laid before this House on 21st October, be approved—(Joan Ryan);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Nick Ainger, Mr John Heppell: 300.

      Tellers for the Noes, Gregory Barker, Mr Crispin Blunt: 128.

    So the Question was agreed to.

9    Environmental Protection,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Landfill Allowances and Trading Scheme (England) Regulations 2004, which were laid before this House on 13th October, be approved—(Joan Ryan):—It was agreed to.

10    Environmental Protection (Northern Ireland),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Landfill (Maximum Landfill Amount) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2004, which were laid before this House on 13th October, be approved—(Joan Ryan):—It was agreed to.

11    Adjournment (Thames Gateway),—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Joan Ryan);

    And it being Ten o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.

12    Public Petitions,—A Public Petition from Mr Chris Keen and others for the withdrawal of British military support for military action by the United States of America in Iraq's cities was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

13    Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Tom Watson.)

    And accordingly, the House, having continued to sit till half-past Ten o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.30 p.m.

Michael J. Martin

Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 12th November 2004 pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):

1    Constitutional Affairs,—Government Response to the Fourth Report from the Constitutional Affairs Committee, Session 2003-04, on Civil Legal Aid: adequacy of provision [Cm. 6367] [Mr David Lammy].

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 12th November 2004 pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments):

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

2    Agriculture,—Seeds (National Lists of Varieties) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 2949), dated 11th November 2004, with an Explanatory Memorandum [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

3    Legal Services,—Probate Services (Approved Body) Complaints Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 2951), dated 11th November 2004, with an Explanatory Memorandum [Mr David Lammy].

4    Social Security,—Fines (Deductions from Income Support) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 2889), dated 6th November 2004, with an Explanatory Memorandum [Mr Secretary Johnson].

    Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 15th November 2004:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

5    Criminal Law,—Draft Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Categories of Offences) Order 2004 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

Other Papers:

6    Cabinet Office,—Paper, entitled A Draft Civil Service Bill: A Consultation Document [by Command] [Cm. 6373] [Ruth Kelly].

7    Government Resources and Accounts,—Treasury Minute, dated 15th November 2004, directing the application of certain amounts as appropriations in aid of the estimates for the year ending 31st March 2005 [by Act] [Mr Paul Boateng].

8    Miscellaneous (No. 14, 2004),—Protocol No. 14, done at Strasbourg on 13th May 2004, to the Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms, amending the Control System of the Convention with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Cm. 6370] [Mr Secretary Straw].

9    National Audit,—Reports by the Comptroller and Auditor General on—

    (1) Facing Justice: Tackling defendants' non-attendance at court: and

    (2) Ministry of Defence: The Rapid Procurement of Capability to Support Operations

    [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 1162 and 1161] [Clerk of the House].

10    Northern Ireland,—Report and Accounts of the Special EU Programmes Body for Northern Ireland for 2003, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 1101] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

11    Pastoral Measure,—Report of the Churches Conservation Trust for 2003-04 [by Measure] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

12    Public Petitions,—Observations by—

    (1) the Secretary of State for Education and Skills on the Petition [14th October] from parents and pupils of Crowlands Junior School in Romford, Essex, for greater choice in secondary education in the London Road area of Romford; and

    (2) the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on the Petition [28th October] from residents of the Parliamentary Constituency of Leigh, Lancashire, against the closure of local post offices

    [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

13    Supply Estimates, 2004-05,—Winter Supplementary Estimates for Supply for 2004-05 for Central Government [by Command]; to be printed [No. 1234] [Mr Paul Boateng].

14    Supply Estimates, 2005-06,—Estimates for which a Vote on Account is required for 2005-06 for—

    (1) Central Government [by Command]; to be printed [No. 1235] [Mr Paul Boateng];

    (2) the Electoral Commission [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1238] [The Speaker];

    (3) the House of Commons [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1236] [The Speaker]; and

    (4) the National Audit Office [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1237] [Mr Alan Williams].

Papers withdrawn:

15    Criminal Law,—Draft Criminal Justice Act 2003 (Categories of Offences) Order 2004 [laid 25th October].

APPENDIX II

Reports from Select Committees

1    Education and Skills,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Teaching Children to Read]; to be printed [No. 1269-i] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

2    Public Accounts,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Welfare to Work: Tackling the Barriers to the Employment of Older People]; to be printed [No. 1249-i] [Mr Edward Leigh].



 
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