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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 2nd March 2004

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Liaison Committee,-Mr Alan Williams reported, pursuant to Standing Order No. 145 (Liaison Committee), That the Committee had directed him to report the following recommendation for the allocation of time for the consideration of Estimates on an allotted day (being the second allotted day in the present Session of Parliament):

    That a day not later than 18th March be allotted for the consideration of the following Supplementary Estimates for the financial year 2003-04:

      Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, in so far as it relates to biofuels;

      Department for Transport, in so far as it relates to aviation services.

    Report to lie upon the Table.

2    Employment Relations Bill,-Mr Eric Forth reported from Standing Committee D, That it had gone through the Employment Relations Bill, and made Amendments thereunto, and had amended the Title, as follows:

    A Bill to amend the law relating to the recognition of trade unions and the taking of industrial action; to make provision about means of voting in ballots under the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992; to amend provisions of that Act relating to rights of members and non-members of trade unions and to make other provision about rights of trade union members, employees and workers; to make further provision concerning the enforcement of legislation relating to minimum wages; to make further provision about proceedings before and appeals from the Certification Officer; to make further provision about the amalgamation of trade unions; to make provision facilitating the administration of trade unions and the carrying out by them of their functions; and for connected purposes.

    Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 61].

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 412].

3    Fire and Rescue Services Bill,-Sir Nicholas Winterton reported from Standing Committee G, That it had gone through the Fire and Rescue Services Bill, and made Amendments thereunto.

    Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 62].

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 413].

4    Higher Education Bill,-Mr Roger Gale reported from Standing Committee H, That it had agreed to the following Resolution in respect of the Higher Education Bill:

    That the Standing Committee recommends that the Order of the House of 27th January (Higher Education Bill (Programme)) be further amended by the substitution in paragraph 2 (time for conclusion of proceedings in Standing Committee) for the words 'Thursday 4th March' of the words 'Tuesday 9th March'.

    Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.

5    Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Bill O'Brien reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers' Compensation) (Payment of Claims) (Amendment) Regulations 2004.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

6    Fisheries Jurisdiction,-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make provision for withdrawal from the Common Fisheries Policy of the European Union; to amend the Fisheries Limits Act 1976; to make provision about the exercise of functions under that Act by Scottish Ministers, the National Assembly for Wales, Northern Ireland Ministers and the Secretary of State; to provide that that Act shall have effect regardless of the provisions of the European Communities Act 1972; to define Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish waters; and for connected purposes: And that Mr Alex Salmond, Mr Roy Beggs, Mr Alistair Carmichael, Mr Nigel Dodds, Mr Kelvin Hopkins, Mr Elfyn Llwyd, Mr Eddie McGrady, Mr Austin Mitchell, Angus Robertson, Mr Anthony Steen, Mr Michael Weir and Ann Winterton do prepare and bring it in.

7    Fisheries Jurisdiction Bill,-Mr Alex Salmond accordingly presented a Bill to make provision for withdrawal from the Common Fisheries Policy of the European Union; to amend the Fisheries Limits Act 1976; to make provision about the exercise of functions under that Act by Scottish Ministers, the National Assembly for Wales, Northern Ireland Ministers and the Secretary of State; to provide that that Act shall have effect regardless of the provisions of the European Communities Act 1972; to define Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish waters; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 21st May and to be printed [Bill 64].

8    Pensions Bill,-The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Pensions Bill;

    And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word 'That' to the end of the Question and add the words 'this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Pensions Bill because it fails to provide encouragement for individuals to save for their retirement or for companies to keep open existing pension schemes or start new ones and does nothing to mitigate the effect on the savings culture of the expansion of means-tested benefits in retirement; it omits measures permitting simplification and amendment of pension schemes' terms, abolishing compulsory AVC provision, simplifying anti-franking provisions, permitting people to continue working part-time for a company after retirement, abolishing or modifying Guaranteed Minimum Pensions, and new vesting arrangements; and further fails to provide help for the estimated 60,000 people who have already lost all or most of their pension entitlement', instead thereof.-(Mr David Willetts.)

    And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mark Field, Angela Watkinson: 154.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Vernon Coaker: 388.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading):-It was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read a second time.

9    Pensions Bill (Programme),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 6th November 2003 (Programming of Bills)], That the following provisions shall apply to the Pensions Bill:

    Committal

    1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee.

    Standing Committee

    2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on 22nd April 2004.

    3. The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it meets.

    Consideration and Third Reading

    4. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the day on which those proceedings are commenced.

    5. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption on the day on which proceedings on consideration are commenced.

    6. Sessional Order B (programming committees) made by the House on 28th June 2001 shall not apply to proceedings on consideration and Third Reading.

    Other proceedings

    7. Any other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or on any further message from the Lords) may be programmed-(Bridget Prentice);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Vernon Coaker: 378.

      Tellers for the Noes, Angela Watkinson, Mr Mark Field: 153.

    So the Question was agreed to.

10    Pensions Bill [Money],-Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Pensions Bill [Money];

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Pensions Bill, it is expedient to authorise the payment out of money provided by Parliament of-

    (a) any expenditure of the Secretary of State or the Lord Chancellor under the Act, and

    (b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums payable under any other Act out of money so provided-(Bridget Prentice):-It was agreed to.

11    Pensions Bill [Ways and Means],-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Pensions Bill, it is expedient to authorise-

    (1) the levying of charges under the Act-

      (a) for the purpose of meeting expenditure of the Secretary of State relating to the establishment or expenses of the Board of the Pension Protection Fund;

      (b) for the purposes of the Pension Protection Fund maintained under the Act;

      (c) for the purpose of meeting expenditure payable out of the Fraud Compensation Fund maintained under the Act;

    (2) the levying of charges under the Pension Schemes Act 1993 for the purpose of meeting-

      (a) the expenses of the Pensions Regulator (including the expenses of establishing it);

      (b) the costs of the legal assistance scheme established in connection with proceedings before the Pensions Regulator Tribunal;

      (c) the expenses of the Pensions Compensation Board;

    (3) the making of payments into the Consolidated Fund-(Bridget Prentice);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Mr Vernon Coaker: 326.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Eric Forth, Mr Nigel Evans: 20.

    So the Question was agreed to.

12    Northern Ireland,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Rates (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2004, which was laid before this House on 10th February, be approved-(Bridget Prentice):-It was agreed to.

13    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Bridget Prentice.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till ten minutes past Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 8.10 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

    1    Social Security,-Draft Jobseeker's Allowance (Amendment) Regulations 2004 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Smith].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    2    Betting, Gaming and Lotteries,-(1) Gaming Act (Variation of Fees) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 531), and

    (2) Lotteries (Gaming Board Fees) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 532)

dated 1st March 2004 [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

    3    Health and Safety,-Health and Safety (Fees) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 456), dated 23rd February 2004 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].

    4    Insolvency,-(1) Insolvency Proceedings (Monetary Limits) (Amendment) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 547), dated 27th February 2004 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt], and

    (2) Insurers (Reorganisation and Winding Up) (Amendment) Regulations 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 546), dated 2nd March 2004 [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].

Other Papers:

    5    Consumer Protection,-Report by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on consumer safety for the period 1st April 1998 to 31st March 2003 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 411] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

    6    Coroners,-(1) Berkshire (Coroners' Districts) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 536), dated 29th February 2004,

    (2) Cumbria (Coroners' Districts) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 458), dated 23rd February 2004, and

    (3) Cumbria (Coroners' Districts) (No. 2) Order 2004 (S.I., 2004, No. 535), dated 29th February 2004

    [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

    7    Social Security Administration,-Report by the Social Security Advisory Committee under Section 174(1) of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 and a statement by the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions on the Draft Jobseeker's Allowance (Amendment) Regulations 2004 [by Command] [Cm. 6145] [Mr Secretary Smith].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

    1    Draft Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers' Compensation) (Payment of Claims) (Amendment) Regulations 2004,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Brian H. Donohoe, Mr Kevan Jones and Mr Geoffrey Robinson from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations) and nominated in substitution Mr Bob Blizzard, Mr Tony McWalter and Mr Neil Turner.

    2    Sustainable and Secure Buildings Bill,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr David Heyes from Standing Committee C (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr John Hayes.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Constitutional Affairs,-Third Report from the Constitutional Affairs Committee [Work of the Committee 2003]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 410] [Mr A. J. Beith].

    2    Defence and Home Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Defence and Home Affairs Committees [Homeland Security]; to be printed [No. 417-i] [Mr Bruce George].

    3    Draft Gambling Bill,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on the Draft Gambling Bill; to be printed [No. 139-xvii] [Mr John Greenway].

    4    Environmental Audit,-(1) Second Report from the Environmental Audit Committee [GM Food-Evaluating the Farm Scale Trials], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 90]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Water: the Periodic Review 2004 and the Environmental Programme]; to be printed [No. 416-i]

    [Mr Peter Ainsworth].

    5    Foreign Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [South Africa]; to be printed [No. 117-iii] [Mr Donald Anderson].

    6    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,-Memoranda submitted to the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [Postal Voting], to be printed [No. 400-II] [Andrew Bennett].

    7    Statutory Instruments,-Tenth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 82-x] [Mr David Tredinnick].

    8    Trade and Industry,-(1) Third Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [Resilience of the National Electricity Network], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 69]; and

    (2) Third Special Report from the Committee [Government Observations on the Sixteenth Report from the Committee, Session 2002-03, on Rewards for Failure]; to be printed [No. 415]

    [Mr Martin O'Neill].

[W.H., No. 27]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

    Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mr Nick Ainger.)

    And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 4.29 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst

Deputy Speaker

CORRIGENDUM

    In the Votes and Proceedings for Monday 1st March:

    (1) In item 3, the text of the Message from the Lords should have read as follows:

    The Lords have agreed to the European Parliamentary and Local Elections (Pilots) Bill, with Amendments; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

    (2) Item 9 should have referred to the draft Firearms (Northern Ireland) Order 2004.



 
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