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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 20th October 2003

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Courts Bill [Lords],-The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Courts Bill [Lords], as amended in the Standing Committee.

    A Clause-(Judicial independence)-(Mr David Heath)-brought up and read the first time.

    Question put, That the Clause be read a second time;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 122.

      Tellers for the Noes, Margaret Moran, Mr John Heppell: 284.

    Another Clause (Circuits)-(Mr David Heath)-brought up and read the first time.

    Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:-Clause, by leave, withdrawn.

    Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 1, line 5, to leave out the words 'and effective' and insert the words ', effective and accessible', instead thereof.-(Mr David Heath.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 107.

      Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Jim Fitzpatrick: 275.

    Another Amendment (No. 56) proposed to the Bill, in page 3, line 35, to leave out from the word 'specifying' to the first word 'the' in line 38 and insert the words-

      '(a) in respect of areas except London, areas which are the same as, or fall entirely within, the police areas listed in Schedule 1 to the Police Act 1996 (c. 16) (division of England and Wales, except London, into police areas), and

      (b) in respect of London, at least five separate areas falling entirely within',

    instead thereof.-(Mr David Heath.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 98.

      Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Jim Fitzpatrick: 278.

    Another Amendment (No. 4) proposed to the Bill, in page 5, line 13, at the end to insert the words-

      '( ) No local justice area may include areas which form part of more than one area specified under section 4.'.-(Mr David Heath.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:-Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Another Amendment (No. 37) made to the Bill.

    Another Amendment (No. 8) proposed to the Bill, in page 14, line 14, after the word 'courts', to insert the words '(including family proceedings courts and youth courts)'.-(Mr David Heath.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:-Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Another Amendment (No. 6) proposed to the Bill, in page 14, line 33, after the word 'place' to insert the words 'in the local justice area'.-(Mr David Heath.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Annette Brooke: 86.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Fraser Kemp, Jim Fitzpatrick: 278.

    Another Amendment (No. 53) proposed to the Bill, in page 45, line 6, to leave out the word 'and'.-(Mr Nick Hawkins.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:-Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Another Amendment (No. 38) made to the Bill.

    Another Amendment (No. 9) proposed to the Bill, in page 49, line 17, after the word 'may' to insert the words ', if the claimant consents'.-(Mr Andrew Dismore.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:-Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Other Amendments (Nos. 39 and 40) made to the Bill.

    A Schedule-(Transitional Provisions and Savings)-(Mr Christopher Leslie)-brought up, read the first and second time and added to the Bill.

    Other Amendments (Nos. 41 to 43, 11 to 35, 44, 36 and 45) made to the Bill.

    The Bill was read the third time and passed, with Amendments.

2    Urban Development,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Thurrock Development Corporation (Area and Constitution) Order 2003, dated 23rd June 2003, a copy of which was laid before this House on 2nd July, be approved-(Margaret Moran):-It was agreed to.

3    Social Security,-Ordered, That the following Statutory Instrument be referred to a Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation: the Housing Benefit (General) (Local Housing Allowance) Amendment Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2399).-(Margaret Moran.)

4    Draft Gambling Bill (Joint Committee) (Power to Travel Outside the United Kingdom),-Ordered, That the Order of the House of 10th July 2003 appointing a Select Committee to join with a Committee of the Lords to consider and report on any Clauses of a draft Gambling Bill presented to both Houses by a Minister of the Crown be amended by leaving out the words 'within the United Kingdom'.-(Margaret Moran.)

5    Environmental Audit,-Ordered, That Ian Lucas be discharged from the Environmental Audit Committee and Paul Flynn be added.-(Margaret Moran.)

6    Joint Committee on Human Rights,-Ordered, That Vera Baird be discharged from the Joint Committee on Human Rights and Mr Paul Stinchcombe be added.-(Margaret Moran.)

7    Accommodation and Works,-Ordered, That Syd Rapson be discharged from the Accommodation and Works Committee and Mr Stephen Hepburn be added.-(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

8    Defence,-Ordered, That Patrick Mercer, Jim Knight and Syd Rapson be discharged from the Defence Committee and Mr Peter Viggers, Mike Gapes and Mr Dai Havard be added.-(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

9    Education and Skills,-Ordered, That Ms Meg Munn be discharged from the Education and Skills Committee and Helen Jones be added.-(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

10    Health,-Ordered, That Andy Burnham and Julia Drown be discharged from the Health Committee and Mr Keith Bradley and Mr Jon Owen Jones be added.-(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

11    Northern Ireland Affairs,-Ordered, That Mr Stephen McCabe be discharged from the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee and Mr Iain Luke be added.-(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

12    Scottish Affairs,-Ordered, That Eric Joyce be discharged from the Scottish Affairs Committee and Mr John MacDougall be added.-(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

13    Trade and Industry,-Ordered, That Dr Ashok Kumar and Mrs Jackie Lawrence be discharged from the Trade and Industry Committee and Mr Michael Clapham and Judy Mallaber be added.-(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

14    Treasury,-Ordered, That Dr Nick Palmer be discharged from the Treasury Committee and John Mann be added.-(Mr John Heppell, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

15    Public Petitions,-A Public Petition from Katrina Wynne for the removal of Crown immunity in relation to health and safety legislation was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

16    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Vernon Coaker.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-seven minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.33 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 17th October 2003 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):

    1    Defence, Foreign Affairs, International Development and Trade and Industry,-Government Response to the First Joint Report from the Defence Committee, the Foreign Affairs Committee, the International Development Committee and the Trade and Industry Committee, Session 2002-03, on the Government's Proposals for Secondary Legislation under the Export Control Act [by Command] [Cm. 5988] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

    2    Health,-Government Response to the Sixth Report from the Health Committee, Session 2002-03, on the Victoria Climbie Inquiry Report [by Command] [Cm. 5992] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

    3    Investigatory Powers,-Explanatory Memorandum to the draft Retention of Communications Data (Extension of Initial Period) Order 2003 [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 17th October 2003 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments):

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    4    Food,-Food (Provisions relating to Labelling) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 2647), dated 9th October 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].

Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 20th October 2003:

Other Papers:

    5    Defence,-Ministry of Defence Minute, dated 20th October 2003, concerning the gifting of a non-core MOD site in Northern Ireland to the Office of the First Minister/Deputy First Minister of the Northern Ireland Executive [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon].

    6    Northern Ireland,-Account of the Public Income and Expenditure of Northern Ireland for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 1123] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

    7    School Standards and Framework,-Accounts of the:-

    (1) East Cleveland Education Action Zone, and

    (2) South East Sheffield Education Action Zone

    for 2002-03, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 1187 and 1185] [Clerk of the House].

Papers withdrawn:

    8    Explanatory Memorandum to the draft Retention of Communications Data (Extension of Initial Period) Order 2003 [laid 11th September 2003].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

    1    Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 127) on Special Grants for reducing fire deaths in those areas in England suffering the highest fatality rate, - The Committee of Selection has discharged Paul Clark and Paul Truswell from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Report); and nominated in substitution Mr Stephen Pound and Bridget Prentice.

    2    Working Time (Amendment) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1684), - The Committee of Selection has discharged Dr Vincent Cable from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Malcolm Bruce.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Education and Skills,-Fifth Special Report from the Education and Skills Committee [Government Response to the Sixth Report from the Committee, Session 2002-03, on The Work of Ofsted]; to be printed [No. 1190] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

    2    Public Accounts,-(1) Forty-third Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Fisheries in England]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 752];

    (2) Forty-fourth Report from the Committee [New IT Systems for Magistrates' Courts: the Libra Project]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 434]; and

    (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Procurement of Vaccines by the Department of Health]; to be printed [No. 1209-i]

    [Mr Edward Leigh].

    3    Science and Technology,-(1) Seventh Special Report from the Science and Technology Committee [Government Response to the Fifth Report from the Committee, Session 2002-03, on The Work of the Natural Environment Research Council]; to be printed [No. 1161];

    (2) Eighth Special Report from the Committee [Government Response to the Sixth Report from the Committee, Session 2002-03, on UK Science and Europe: Value for Money?]; to be printed [No. 1162];

    (3) Eighth Report from the Committee [The Work of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 936];

    (4) Ninth Report from the Committee [The Scientific Response to Terrorism], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 415]; and

    (5) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Government Support for Nanotechnology]; to be printed [No. 1160-i]

    [Dr Ian Gibson].



 
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