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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 14th July 2003

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Roger Gale reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft National Minimum Wage Regulations 1999 (Amendment) Regulations 2003.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

2    Thirteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Frank Cook reported from the Thirteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Land Registry Trading Fund (Extension and Amendment) Order 2003.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Fourteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Joe Benton reported from the Fourteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Special Grant Report (No. 125) (House of Commons Paper No. 776) on the Preserved Rights Grant for 2003-09, the Special Grant Report (No. 124) (House of Commons Paper No. 777) on the Delayed Discharges Grant Report for 2003-04 and the Special Grant Report (No. 123) (House of Commons Paper No. 778) on the Social Services (High Performers No. 2) Grant for 2003-04.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Draft Civil Contingencies Bill,-Ordered, That the Lords Message of 11th July relating to the Joint Committee on any draft Civil Contingencies Bill be now considered.

    Lords Message considered accordingly.

    Ordered, That the Committee appointed by this House do meet the Lords Committee as proposed by their Lordships.

    Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.

5    Draft Mental Incapacity Bill,-Ordered, That the Lords Message of 11th July relating to the Joint Committee on any draft Mental Incapacity Bill be now considered.

    Lords Message considered accordingly.

    Ordered, That the Committee appointed by this House do meet the Lords Committee as proposed by their Lordships.

    Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.

6    Communications Bill (Programme) (No. 3),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002], That the following provisions shall apply to the Communications Bill for the purpose of supplementing the Orders of 3rd December 2002 and 10th February 2003:

    Consideration of Lords Amendments

    1. Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments shall be completed at this day's sitting and shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the moment of interruption.

    2. Those proceedings shall be taken in the order shown in the first column of the following Table, and each part of those proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the time shown in the second column.

Lords AmendmentsTime for conclusion of proceedings
Nos. 1 and 26.00 p.m.
Nos. 3 to 387.30 p.m.
Nos. 39 to 1149.00 p.m.
Nos. 115 to 27810.00 p.m.

    Subsequent stage

      3. Any further Message from the Lords may be considered forthwith without any Question put.

      4. Proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement.-(Mr Nick Ainger.)

      The House divided.

        Tellers for the Ayes, Derek Twigg, Margaret Moran: 306.

        Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Randall, Mr Mark Hoban: 165.

      So the Question was agreed to.

    7    Communications Bill,-The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Communications Bill.

      Lords Amendment No. 1 was disagreed to.

      Amendments (a) to (c) were made to the Bill, in lieu of Lords Amendment No. 1 disagreed to.

      Lords Amendment No. 2 was agreed to.

      Lords Amendment No. 3 was disagreed to.

      An Amendment (a) was made to the Bill, in lieu of Lords Amendment No. 3 disagreed to.

      Lords Amendments Nos. 4 to 12 were agreed to.

      It being half-past Seven o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put forthwith the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour, pursuant to Order [this day].

      Lords Amendments Nos. 13 to 38 were agreed to.

      Lords Amendments Nos. 39 to 41 were agreed to.

      Lords Amendment No. 42 was disagreed to.

      An Amendment (a) was made to the Bill, in lieu of Lords Amendment No. 42 disagreed to.

      Lords Amendment No. 43 to 72 were agreed to.

      Amendments (a) to (e), consequential on Lords Amendment No. 72, were made to the Bill.

      Lords Amendments Nos. 73 to 114 were agreed to.

      Lords Amendments Nos. 115 and 116 were disagreed to.

      Amendments (a) to (e) were made to the Bill, in lieu of Lords Amendments Nos. 115 and 116 disagreed to.

      Lords Amendments Nos. 117 to 129 were agreed to.

      Lords Amendment No. 130.

      A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House agrees with the Lords in their Amendment-(Secretary Tessa Jowell);

      The House divided.

        Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Paul Clark: 314.

        Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mark Francois, Hugh Robertson: 175.

      So the Question was agreed to.

      The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.

      It being after Ten o'clock, the Speaker put forthwith the Questions necessary to dispose of the remaining Lords Amendments.

      Amendments (a) to (l) were made to the Bill, in lieu of Lords Amendments No. 130 disagreed to.

      Lords Amendments Nos. 131 to 278 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 155 and 196.

    8    Immigration,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Immigration (Provision of Physical Data) Regulations 2003, which were laid before this House on 12th June, be approved-(Charlotte Atkins):-It was agreed to.

    9    Official Secrets,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Official Secrets Act 1989 (Prescription) (Amendment) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 19th June, be approved-(Charlotte Atkins):-It was agreed to.

    10    Immigration,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Asylum (Designated States) (No. 2) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 17th June, be approved-(Charlotte Atkins);

    And the Speaker's decision as to the decision of the Question being challenged, the Division was deferred till Wednesday 16th July, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002].

    11    Social Security,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Social Security (Jobcentre Plus Interviews for Partners) Regulations 2003, which were laid before this House on 25th June, be approved-(Charlotte Atkins);

    And the Speaker's decision as to the decision of the Question being challenged, the Division was deferred till Wednesday 16th July, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002].

    12    Representation of the People,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Representation of the People (Form of Canvass) (England and Wales) Regulations 2003, which were laid before this House on 9th June, be approved-(Charlotte Atkins):-It was agreed to.

    13    Representation of the People,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Representation of the People (Form of Canvass) (Scotland) Regulations 2003, which were laid before this House on 9th June, be approved-(Charlotte Atkins):-It was agreed to.

    14    Constitutional Law,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) (No. 2) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 24th June, be approved-(Charlotte Atkins):-It was agreed to.

    15    Insolvency,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Insolvency Act 1986 (Amendment) (Administrative Receivership and Urban Regeneration etc.) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 12th June, be approved-(Charlotte Atkins):-It was agreed to.

    16    Draft Budget and Annual Policy Strategy,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of the unnumbered Explanatory Memorandum from HM Treasury dated 5th June relating to the Preliminary Draft General Budget of the European Communities for the financial year 2004, and European Union Document No. 7229/03, Commission Communication on the Annual Policy Strategy for 2004; and supports the Government's efforts to maintain budget discipline in the Community-(Charlotte Atkins):-It was agreed to.

    17    Identification of Ovine and Caprine Animals (Sheep and Goats),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union Document No. 15829/02, draft Council Regulation establishing a system for the identification and registration of ovine and caprine animals and amending Regulation (EEC) No. 3508/92; and supports the Government's view that this proposal does not take account of the way in which the United Kingdom sheep and goat industry operates, nor of the enhanced system of identification and traceability already in place in the UK, which is sufficient for animal health disease control purposes until an economical and affordable electronic identification system is available-(Charlotte Atkins):-It was agreed to.

    18    Home Affairs,-Ordered, That Mr Chris Mullin, Bridget Prentice and Mr Tom Watson be discharged from the Committee and that Mr John Denham, Janet Anderson and Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas be added.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

    19    Information,-Ordered, That Michael Fabricant be discharged from the Committee and that Mr Michael Jack be added.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

    20    Public Petitions,-A Public Petition from friends and supporters of the Bamburac family for the family to be permitted to remain in the UK was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

    21    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Charlotte Atkins.)

      And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-two minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

    [Adjourned at 10.38 p.m.

    Michael J. Martin
    Speaker


    Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


    APPENDIX I

    Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

    Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

      1    Education,-(1) Education (Assisted Places) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1705), and

      (2) Education (Assisted Places) (Incidental Expenses) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1707),

      dated 7th July [by Act] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

      2    Nurses and Midwives,-Nursing and Midwifery Council (Practice Committees) (Interim Constitution) Rules Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1738), dated 10th July 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].

      3    Pensions,-Occupational Pension Schemes (Transfer Values and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1727), dated 10th July 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].

      4    Social Care,-Care Homes (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1703), dated 7th July 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].

    Other Papers:

      5    Agricultural Marketing,-Report and Accounts of Food from Britain for 2002-03 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

      6    Aliens' Employment,-Cabinet Office Minute, dated 14th July 2003, under section 1(4) of the Aliens' Employment Act 1955 relating to aliens employed in the Civil Service during 2002-03 [by Act] [Mr Douglas Alexander].

      7    Atomic Energy Authority,-Accounts of the United Kingdom Atomic Energy Authority for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 982] [Clerk of the House].

      8    Betting, Gaming and Lotteries,-Report and Accounts for 2002-03 of:

      (1) the Horserace Betting Levy Board, and

      (2) the Horserace Totalisator Board

      [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

      9    Broadcasting,-Accounts of the-

      (1) Independent Television Commission Additional Payments and Financial Penalties by Licensees, and

      (2) Radio Authority Additional Payments by Radio Programme Licensees Account

      for 2002-03, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 977 and 983] [Clerk of the House].

      10    Companies,-Report by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on Companies in 2002-03 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

      11    Competition,-Account of the Competition Commission for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 978] [Clerk of the House].

      12    Education,-Report of the Teacher Training Agency for 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

      13    Education and Skills,-Department for Education and Skills Minute, dated 14th July 2003, concerning contingent liabilities in respect of redundancy entitlement for former civil servants who were employees of Training and Enterprise Councils (TECs) [by Command] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

      14    Environment,-Report and Accounts of the Environment Agency for 2002-03 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

      15    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Executive Agencies,-Report and Accounts of the Veterinary Laboratories Agency for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 892] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

      16    Environmental Protection,-Account of English Nature for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 981] [Clerk of the House].

      17    Food Standards Agency Executive Agencies,-Report and Accounts of the Meat Hygiene Service for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 860] [Mr Secretary Reid].

      18    Government Resources and Accounts,-Report and Accounts of the Small Business Service for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 807] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

      19    Government Trading Funds,-Reports and Accounts of the-

      (1) Defence Science and Technology Laboratory, and

      (2) Patent Office

      for 2002-03, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 894 and 775] [Clerk of the House].

      20    Historical Manuscripts,-Report and Financial Statements of the Historical Manuscripts Commission for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Command] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

      21    Israel (No. 1, 2003),-Exchange of Notes, done at Tel Aviv on 18th September and Jerusalem on 24th December 2002, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Israel amending the Convention providing for the Reciprocal Recognition and Enforcement of Judgements in Civil Matters signed at London on 28th October 1970, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Cm. 5874] [Mr Secretary Straw].

      22    Leasehold Reform, Housing and Urban Development,-Report and Financial Statements of English Partnerships for 2002-03 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

      23    National Audit,-Reports by the Comptroller and Auditor General on-

      (1) Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ): New Accommodation Programme,

      (2) Hip replacements: an update, and

      (3) PFI: The New Headquarters for the Home Office

      [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 955, 956 and 954] [Clerk of the House].

      24    National Heritage,-Report and Accounts of the Royal Botanic Gardens Kew for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 739] [Clerk of the House].

      25    National Loans,-Accounts relating to issues from the National Loans Fund for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 988] [Clerk of the House].

      26    Police,-Report and Accounts of the Police Information Technology Organisation (PITO) for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 966] [Clerk of the House].

      27    Railways,-Report of the Rail Passengers Committee Wales for 2002-03 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

      28    Severn Bridges,-Accounts prepared pursuant to section 28 (1) (b) of the Severn Bridges Act 1992 for 2001-02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 980] [Clerk of the House].

      29    Shipman Inquiry,-(1) Second Report: The Police Investigation of March 1998, and

      (2) Third Report: Death Certification and the Investigation of Deaths by Coroners

      [by Command] [Cms. 5853 and 5854] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

      30    Trade Union and Labour Relations,-Accounts of the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service and of the Certification Officer and the Central Arbitration Committee for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 979] [Clerk of the House].

      31    Treasury Solicitor,-Crown's Nominee Account for 2002-03 [by Act] [John Healey].

      32    Utilities,-Report and Accounts of the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets (Ofgem) for 2002-03, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 921] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

    APPENDIX II

    Standing Committees

      1    Draft National Minimum Wage Regulations 1999 (Amendment) Regulations 2003,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Dr Ian Gibson, Mr Fabian Hamilton and Mr Andrew Love from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Ian Stewart, Dr Howard Stoate and Ms Dari Taylor.

      2    Draft Land Registry Trading Fund (Extension and Amendment) Order 2003:-

      (1) The Speaker has appointed Mr Frank Cook Chairman, in place of Mr Bill O'Brien; and

      (2) The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr David Clelland and Mr Mark Fisher from the Thirteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Kelvin Hopkins and Mr Mark Lazarowicz.

      3    Special Grant Report (No. 125) (House of Commons Paper No. 776) on the Preserved Rights Grant for 2003-09, the Special Grant Report (No. 124) (House of Commons Paper No. 777) on the Delayed Discharges Grant Report for 2003-04 and the Special Grant Report (No. 123) (House of Commons Paper No. 778) on the Social Services (High Performers No. 2) Grant for 2003-04,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Kevin McNamara and Mr Robert N. Wareing from the Fourteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Reports); and nominated in substitution Barbara Follett and Mr Martin Salter.

    APPENDIX III

    Reports from Select Committees

      1    Education and Skills,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Public Expenditure]; to be printed [No. 864-ii] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

      2    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the New Covent Garden Market Sub-Committee of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [New Covent Garden Market: a follow-up]; to be printed [No. 901-ii] [Mr Michael Jack].

      3    Human Rights,-Fifteenth Report form the Joint Committee on Human Rights [Scrutiny of Bills and Draft Bills: Further Progress Report], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1005] [Jean Corston].

      4    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions-(1) Tenth Report from the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [The Draft Housing Bill], together with the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 751-I];

      (2) Eleventh Report from the Committee [Living Places: Cleaner, Safer, Greener], together with the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 673-I];

      (3) Twelfth Report from the Committee {The Evening Economy and the Urban Renaissance], together with the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 396-I}; and

      (4) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Work of the Electoral Commission and the Boundary Committee for England]; to be printed [No. 1003-i]

      [Andrew Bennett].

      5    Science and Technology,-(1) Sixth Report from the Science and Technology Committee [UK Science and Europe: Value for Money?], and Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 386-I and -II];

      (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Light Pollution and Astronomy]; to be printed [No. 747-ii]; and

      (3) Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 7th July [The Work of the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council]; to be printed [No. 936]

      [Dr Ian Gibson].

      6    Treasury,-(1) Sixth Special Report from the Treasury Committee [Government Response to the Committee's Sixth Special Report, on the UK and the Euro]; to be printed [No. 1004]; and

      (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Transparency of Credit Card Charges]; to be printed [No. 967-iii]

      [Mr John McFall].



 
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