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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 17th June 2003

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Mersey Tunnels Bill,-The Order of the day being read, for further consideration of the Mersey Tunnels Bill, as amended in the Committee;

    Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Tuesday 24th June.

2    Finance Bill (except Clauses Nos. 1, 4, 5, 9, 14, 22, 42, 56, 57, 124, 130 to 135, 138, 139, 148 and 184 and Schedules Nos. 5, 6, 19, and 25, and any new Clauses and Schedules tabled by Friday 9th May 2003 relating to excise duty on spirits or R&D tax credits for oil exploration),-Sir Nicholas Winterton reported from Standing Committee B, That it had gone through the Finance Bill (except Clauses Nos. 1, 4, 5, 9, 14, 22, 42, 56, 57, 124, 130 to 135, 138, 139, 148 and 184 and Schedules Nos. 5, 6, 19, and 25, and any new Clauses and Schedules tabled by Friday 9th May 2003 relating to excise duty on spirits or R&D tax credits for oil exploration), and made Amendments thereunto.

    Bill, as amended in the Committee and in the Standing Committee, to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 125].

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 826].

3    Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Miss Ann Widdecombe reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2003 and the draft Employment Equality (Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2003.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    Road Traffic (Amendment) Bill [Lords],-The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision with respect to the driving and use of vehicles drawn by horses or other animals on roads or in other public places; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

5    Older People's Rights Commissioner,-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make provision for the establishment of an Older People's Rights Commissioner to promote and protect the human rights of older people; to make provision in respect of the recognition of such rights by public and private bodies; to assist older people in respect of such rights; to make provision for the powers and duties of the Commissioner; and for connected purposes: And that David Taylor, Ms Candy Atherton, Mr Roger Berry, Mr Harold Best, Mr David Chaytor, Mr David Drew, Paul Flynn, Linda Gilroy, Mr John Horam, Dr Brian Iddon, Mr Andy Reed and Mrs Betty Williams do prepare and bring it in.

6    Older People's Rights Commissioner Bill,-David Taylor accordingly presented a Bill to make provision for the establishment of an Older People's Rights Commissioner to promote and protect the human rights of older people; to make provision in respect of the recognition of such rights by public and private bodies; to assist older people in respect of such rights; to make provision for the powers and duties of the Commissioner; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 11th July and to be printed [Bill 124].

7    Opposition Day [9th allotted day],-It being an allotted day at the disposal of the Leader of the Opposition in pursuance of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), the House proceeded to consider Opposition business.

    Constitutional Implications of the Prime Minister's Reshuffle,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes the far-reaching constitutional implications of the changes to the machinery of Government announced in the Government reshuffle last week; deplores the total lack of consultation before the changes were announced and the confusion that has ensued since; is gravely concerned that the Prime Minister is abolishing the historic office of Lord Chancellor without any idea of what will take its place, and, in particular, how the independence of the judiciary is to be maintained; is unclear about the relationship between the spokesmen for Scotland and Wales in the House of Commons and the new Secretary of State for Constitutional Affairs, who appears to have executive responsibility for the functions of the Scotland and Wales Offices; regrets that the Prime Minister clearly regards the jobs of the Secretary of State for Transport and Leader of the House as part-time; further notes that the NHS in England and Wales is now to be run by a Secretary of State who has no control over health policies in his own constituency, and whose constituents will not be affected by the decisions he takes as Secretary of State for Health; and calls on the Prime Minister not to proceed with his plans for change until he has properly consulted on them-(Mr Eric Forth);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'welcomes the Government's continuing drive to modernise the constitution and public service by creating a new Department for Constitutional Affairs focused on improving the criminal justice system, by consulting on establishing an independent Judicial Appointments Commission, by consulting on establishing a Supreme Court, and by consulting the House of Lords on the appointment by the House of its own Speaker, and putting in place better arrangements for the conduct of Scottish and Welsh business after the successful bedding-down of devolution; further welcomes the continued accountability of the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales to the House; further welcomes the appointment of the new Secretary of State for Health who will continue the drive to reform and modernise the National Health Service; and supports the Government in its continued commitment to invest and reform the public services', instead thereof.-(Secretary Peter Hain.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;

    David Maclean rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:-It was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Mr Mark Francois: 183.

      Tellers for the Noes, Derek Twigg, Paul Clark: 327.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):-It was agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House welcomes the Government's continuing drive to modernise the constitution and public service by creating a new Department for Constitutional Affairs focused on improving the criminal justice system, by consulting on establishing an independent Judicial Appointments Commission, by consulting on establishing a Supreme Court, and by consulting the House of Lords on the appointment by the House of its own Speaker, and putting in place better arrangements for the conduct of Scottish and Welsh business after the successful bedding-down of devolution; further welcomes the continued accountability of the Secretaries of State for Scotland and Wales to the House; further welcomes the appointment of the new Secretary of State for Health who will continue the drive to reform and modernise the National Health Service; and supports the Government in its continued commitment to invest and reform the public services.

    Community Pharmacies,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House believes community pharmacies play a vital role in providing for local healthcare needs, with highly qualified pharmacists able to advise on general and over-the-counter medicines and to dispense and to advise on prescription-only medicines; notes that community pharmacies are truly local, with nine out of ten people considering it easy to get to a community pharmacy; and is concerned about any change which might lead to a reduction in the excellent services or accessibility currently provided by community pharmacies-(Mr Tim Yeo);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'agrees that the OFT report on the "Control of Entry Regulations and Retail Pharmacy Services in the UK" provides a useful analysis of the market impact of the current control of entry regulations on consumers and competition and highlights the need for the present regime governing pharmacies to be updated; favours change to open up the market and improve quality and access without diminishing the crucial role that community pharmacies play, especially in poorer areas; and supports the need for a balanced package of measures which plays to the strengths of community pharmacies and enhances the role of pharmacists in the modern NHS', instead thereof.-(Ms Secretary Hewitt.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;

    David Maclean rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:-It was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Mr Mark Hoban: 197.

      Tellers for the Noes, Jim Fitzpatrick, Charlotte Atkins: 338.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):-It was agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House agrees that the OFT report on the 'Control of Entry Regulations and Retail Pharmacy Services in the UK' provides a useful analysis of the market impact of the current control of entry regulations on consumers and competition and highlights the need for the present regime governing pharmacies to be updated; favours change to open up the market and improve quality and access without diminishing the crucial role that community pharmacies play, especially in poorer areas; and supports the need for a balanced package of measures which plays to the strengths of community pharmacies and enhances the role of pharmacists in the modern NHS.

8    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Nick Ainger.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eighteen minutes to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 7.42 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

    1    Immigration,-Draft Asylum (Designated States) (No. 2) Order 2003 [by Act]; with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

    2    Northern Ireland,-Draft Budget (No. 2) (Northern Ireland) Order 2003 [by Act]; with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    3    Health Care and Associated Professions,-(1) Health Professions Council (Conduct and Competence Committee) (Procedure) Rules Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1575),

    (2) Health Professions Council (Functions of Assessors) Rules Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1577),

    (3) Health Professions Council (Health Committee) (Procedure) Rules Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1576),

    (4) Health Professions Council (Investigating Committee) (Procedure) Rules Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1574)

    (5) Health Professions Council (Registration and Fees) Rules Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1572),

    (6) Health Professions Council (Registration Appeals) Rules Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1579),

    (7) Health Professions Council (Screeners) Rules Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1573),

    (8) Health Professions Order 2001 (Legal Assessors) Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1578) and

    (9) Health Professions (Parts of and Entries in the Register) Order of Council 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1571)

    dated 13th June 2003 [by Statutory Instrument] [Mr Secretary Reid].

Other Papers:

    4    Financial Services,-Report and Accounts of the Financial Services Authority for 2002-03 [by Act] [Mr Paul Boateng].

    5    Value Added Tax,-Explanatory Memorandum on the Value Added Tax (Finance) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1568), laid 16th June 2003 [by Command] [John Healey].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

    Draft Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2003 and draft Employment Equality (Sexual Orientation) Regulations 2003,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Michael Clapham, Barbara Follett, Sandra Osborne and Joyce Quin from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr Russell Brown, Mr John MacDougall, Mr Frank Roy and Ian Stewart.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Culture, Media and Sport,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [British Film Industry]; to be printed [No. 667-vi] [Mr Gerald Kaufman].

    2    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Poultry Farming in the United Kingdom Sub-committee of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Poultry Farming in the United Kingdom]; to be printed [No. 779-ii] [David Taylor].

    3    Foreign Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee [The Decision to go to War in Iraq]; to be printed [No. 813-i and -ii] [Donald Anderson].

    4    Health,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Maternity Services Sub-committee of the Health Committee [Choice in Maternity Services]; to be printed [No. 796-i] [Julia Drown].

    5    Home Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee [Asylum Applications]; to be printed [No. 692-v] [David Winnick].

    6    International Development,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [Department for International Development: Departmental Report 2003]; to be printed [No. 825-i] [Tony Worthington].

    7    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [The Draft Housing Bill]; to be printed [No. 751-ii] [Andrew Bennett].

    8    Scottish Affairs,-(1) Third Special Report from the Scottish Affairs Committee [Government Response to the Second Report from the Committee on Homeworkers in Scotland and the Minimum Wage]; to be printed [No. 816]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Scotland Office Departmental Report 2003]; to be printed [No. 815-i]

    [Mrs Irene Adams].

    9    Statutory Instruments,-Twenty-second Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 96-xxii] [Mr David Tredinnick].

    10    Trade and Industry,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [Support to businesses from Regional Development Agencies]; to be printed [No. 814-i] [Mr Martin O'Neill].

    11    Treasury,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [Bank of England May 2003 Inflation Report]; to be printed [No. 817-i]; and

    (2) Paper laid before the Committee [Equitable Life]

    [Mr John McFall].


[W.H., No. 70]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

    Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mr Jim Murphy.)

    And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 4.28 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker



 
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