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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 19th May 2003

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Private Bills [Lords] (No Standing Order not previously inquired into applicable),-The Speaker laid upon the Table a Report from one of the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills, That, in the case of the following Bill, originating in the Lords and referred after the First Reading thereof, no Standing Order not previously inquired into is applicable thereto:

    Nottingham City Council Bill [Lords].

    Bill to be read a second time.

2    First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Miss Ann Widdecombe reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Broadcasting (Independent Productions) (Amendment) Order 2003.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    Harbours Bill [Lords],-The Lords have passed a Bill to amend the procedure for dealing with applications for orders under section 14 or 16 of the Harbours Act 1964 and for making orders under section 15 of that Act; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

4    Criminal Justice Bill (Programme) (No. 5),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That, in accordance with the Resolution of the Programming Committee of 14th May, the Order of the House of 2nd April 2003 (Proceedings on consideration and Third Reading of the Criminal Justice Bill) be amended by omitting the entries in the Table for the second and third day and inserting the following:

Day

Proceedings

Time for conclusion of proceedings

Second day

New Clauses relating to Part 1, Clause No. 7, Clauses Nos. 9 and 10.

One and a quarter hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion for this Order.

New Clauses relating to Part 2, Clauses Nos. 11 to 17, New Clauses relating to Part 5, Clauses Nos. 27 to 34, New Clauses relating to Part 9, Clauses Nos. 50 to 62.

Two hours after the commencement of those proceedings.

New Clauses relating to Part 7, Clauses Nos. 36 to 43.

Four and a half hours after the commencement of those proceedings.

Clause No. 63, Schedule No. 4, Clauses Nos. 64 to 81, New Clauses relating to Part 10.

Six and a half hours after the commencement of those proceedings.

Third day

New Clauses Nos. 30 to 39 and 46 to 51.

Two and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Bill.

Remaining New Clauses relating to Part 12, Clauses Nos. 127 to 163, Schedule No. 7, Clause No. 164, Schedule No. 8, Clauses Nos. 165 to 171, Schedule No. 9, Clauses Nos. 172 to 176, Schedule No. 10, Clauses Nos. 177 to 201, Schedule No. 11, Clauses Nos. 202 to 206, Schedule No. 12, Clauses Nos. 207 to 211, Schedules Nos. 13 and 14, Clause No. 212, Schedule No. 15, Clauses Nos. 213 to 221, Schedule No. 16, Clauses Nos. 222 to 246, Schedule No. 17, Clause No. 247, Schedule No. 18, Clause No. 248, Schedules Nos. 19 and 20, Clauses Nos. 249 to 251, Schedule No. 21, Clause No. 252, Schedule No. 22, Clauses Nos. 253 and 254, Schedule No. 23, Clauses Nos. 255 to 258, Schedule No. 24, Clause No. 259, New Clauses relating to Part 6, Clause No. 35, Schedule No. 3, Clauses Nos. 260 to 265, Schedule No. 25, Clauses Nos. 266 to 268, Schedule No. 26, Clauses Nos. 269 to 273, Schedule No. 27, Clause No. 274, Schedule No. 28, Clause No. 275, Schedule No. 29, Clauses Nos. 276 to 280.

Four hours after the commencement of those proceedings.

Remaining New Clauses, New Schedules, any remaining proceedings on the Bill.

Five and a half hours after the commencement of those proceedings.

    -(Paul Goggins.)

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Jim Murphy, Charlotte Atkins: 283.

      Tellers for the Noes, Hugh Robertson, Mr Desmond Swayne: 160.

    So the Question was agreed to.

5    Criminal Justice Bill,-The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the Criminal Justice Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.

    A Clause (Taking fingerprints without consent)-(Mr Bob Ainsworth)-brought up and read the first time.

    Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time;

    And it being one and a quarter hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion relating to Criminal Justice Bill (Programme) (No. 5), the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001, 29th October 2002, 2nd April and this day].

    Question, that the Clause be read a second time, put and agreed to.

    Clause added.

    The Deputy Speaker proceeded to put forthwith the Question on an Amendment selected by the Speaker for separate division.

    Amendment (No. 169) proposed, in page 6, line 2, to leave out Clause No. 9.-(Mr David Heath.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Annette Brooke, Mr Alan Reid: 40.

      Tellers for the Noes, Charlotte Atkins, Mr Jim Murphy: 317.

    The Deputy Speaker proceeded to put forthwith the Question on the remaining new Clause moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour.

    A Clause (Taking non-intimate samples without consent)-(Mr Bob Ainsworth)-brought up.

    Question put, That the Clause be added to the Bill.

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Charlotte Atkins, Mr Jim Murphy: 323.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Hugh Robertson: 178.

    The Deputy Speaker proceeded to put forthwith the Question on the remaining Amendment moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour.

    Amendment (No. 231) made to the Bill.

    And it being two hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion relating to Criminal Justice Bill (Programme) (No. 5), the Deputy Speaker put forthwith the Question on the new Clauses moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001, 29th October 2002, 2nd April and this day].

    A Clause (Absconding by persons released on bail)-(Ms Harriet Harman)-brought up and added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Supplementary amendments to the Bail Act 1976)-(Ms Harriet Harman)-brought up and added to the Bill.

    The Deputy Speaker proceeded to put forthwith the Question on the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour.

    Amendments (Nos. 443 to 448, 232, 449 to 451 and 72 to 93) made to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Rules of court)-(Mr Secretary Blunkett)-brought up and read the first time.

    Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time;

    And it being four and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion relating to Criminal Justice Bill (Programme) (No. 5), the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001, 29th October 2002, 2nd April and this day].

    Question, That the Clause be read a second time, put and agreed to.

    Clause added.

    The Deputy Speaker proceeded to put forthwith the Questions on Amendments selected by the Speaker for separate division.

    Amendment (No. 2) proposed to the Bill, in page 25, lie 10, to leave out Clause No. 37.-(Mr Oliver Letwin.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Hugh Robertson, Mr Desmond Swayne: 227.

      Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Derek Twigg: 299.

    Amendment (No. 3) proposed, in page 25, line 38, to leave out Clause No. 38.-(Mr Oliver Letwin.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Hugh Robertson, Mr Desmond Swayne: 223.

      Tellers for the Noes, Gillian Merron, Derek Twigg: 304.

    The Deputy Speaker proceeded to put forthwith the Question on the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour.

    Amendments (Nos. 203 to 211) made to the Bill.

    Another Amendment (No. 18) proposed to the Bill, in page 41, line 7, to leave out the words 'a qualifying offence' and insert the words 'murder or rape, contrary to section 1 of the Sexual Offences Act 1956', instead thereof.-(Mr Dominic Grieve.)

    And it being six and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion relating to Criminal Justice Bill (Programme) (No. 5), the Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001, 29th October 2002, 2nd April and this day].

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Hugh Robertson, Mr Desmond Swayne: 189.

      Tellers for the Noes, Dan Norris, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 330.

    So the Question was negatived.

    The Speaker proceeded to put forthwith the Questions on the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour.

    Amendments (Nos. 462 to 465, 357, 466, 467, 423 to 425, 474, 475, 468, 469, 358 to 373, 470 to 472 and 374 to 420) made to the Bill.

    The Speaker proceeded to put forthwith the Questions on the remaining new Clauses moved by a Minister of the Crown to be disposed of at that hour.

    A Clause (Restrictions on publication in the interests of justice)-(Mr John Heppell)-brought up and added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Revocation of bail)-(Mr John Heppell)-brought up and added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Armed Forces: Part 10)-(Mr John Heppell)-brought up and added to the Bill.

    Another Clause (Application of Part 10 to Northern Ireland)-(Mr John Heppell)-brought up and added to the Bill.

    Bill to be further considered to-morrow.

6    Local Government Finance,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 121) (House of Commons Paper No. 640) on Invest to Save Budget Round 5 Projects, Local e-Government Programme and e-Voting, which was laid before this House on 11th April, be approved-(Jim Fitzpatrick):-It was agreed to.

7    Regulatory Reform,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 18 (Consideration of draft regulatory reform orders), That the draft Regulatory Reform (British Waterways Board) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 28th April, be approved-(Jim Fitzpatrick):-It was agreed to.

8    Welsh Grand Committee,-Ordered, That-

    (1) the matter of the Economy in Wales be referred to the Welsh Grand Committee for its consideration;

    (2) the Committee shall meet at Westminster on Tuesday 24th June at five minutes to Nine o'clock and between Two o'clock and Four o'clock to take questions under Standing Order No. 103 (Welsh Grand Committee (questions for oral answer)), and to consider the matter of the Economy in Wales under Standing Order No. 107 (Welsh Grand Committee (matters relating exclusively to Wales)).-(Jim Fitzpatrick.)

9    Business of the House,-Ordered, That at the sitting on Thursday 22nd May, the Motion for the adjournment of the House in the name of the Prime Minister relating to matters to be considered before the forthcoming adjournment may be proceeded with, though opposed, for three hours, or until Six o'clock, whichever is the later, and shall then lapse.-(Jim Fitzpatrick.)

10    Public Petitions,-Public Petitions from-

    (1) residents of Canvey Island for the provision of police foot patrols in the Winter Garden area of Canvey Island,

    (2) Mrs Hughes and others against for greater control by local communities over the siting of mobile phone masts, and

    (3) Frank Round and Paula Sharrock for an increase in the maximum sentence for causing death by dangerous driving

    were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

11    Adjournment,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn-(Jim Fitzpatrick);

    And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then nine minutes to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.51 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    1    Agriculture,-Feeding Stuffs (Sampling and Analysis), the Feeding Stuffs (Enforcement) and the Feeding Stuffs (Establishments and Intermediaries) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1296), dated 13th May 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

    2    Animals,-Protection of Animals (Anaesthetics) (Amendment) (No. 2) (England) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1328), dated 15th May 2003 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

    3    Education,-North Birmingham College (Dissolution) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1293), dated 9th May 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

    4    Pensions,-Judicial Pensions and Retirement Act 1993 (Addition of Qualifying Judicial Offices) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1311), dated 13th May 2003 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

    5    Supreme Court of England and Wales,-Civil Procedure (Amendment No. 3) Rules 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 1329), dated 18th May 2003 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

Other Papers:

    6    Culture, Media and Sport,-Department for Culture, Media and Sport Minute, dated 19th May 2003, concerning a contingent liability relating to the 'Home and Garden' exhibition at the Geffrye Museum from 10th September 2003 to 18th July 2004 [by Command] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

    7    Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration,-Thirty-second Report of the Review Body on Doctors' and Dentists' Remuneration [by Command] [Cm. 5721] [The Prime Minister].

    8    National Audit,-Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Ministry of Defence: Through-Life Management [by Act]; to be printed [No. 698][Clerk of the House].

    9    National Health Service,-Statement of Guarantee, given by the Secretary of State for Health on 6th May 2003, on loans proposed to be raised by Mid Yorkshire Hospitals National Health Service Trust [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

    10    New Towns,-Statement of Guarantee, given by HM Treasury on 16th May 2003, in respect of temporary borrowing by the Commission of the New Towns from Barclays Bank PLC [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].

    11    Public Petitions,-Observations by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on the Petitions [8th April] [three Petitions] from Mrs Beryl Rudman and others; residents of Chesham and Amersham; residents of Stafford Constituency; and [9th April] [four Petitions] from constituents of Rayleigh; residents of the Vale of York; users of dispensing chemists in the Westbury constituency and users of the Parley Cross Pharmacy in the Christchurch constituency against the unrestricted opening of pharmacies able to dispense NHS prescriptions [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

    1    Health and Social Care Bill (Programming Sub-Committee),-The Speaker has discharged Claire Ward from the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee E in respect of the Bill and nominated in substitution Mr Mike Hall.

    2    Draft Broadcasting (Independent Productions) (Amendment) Order 2003,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Tony Banks, Dr Hywel Francis and Mr Gerry Steinberg from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Bob Blizzard, Mr Alan Campbell and Mr Kevan Jones.

    3    Draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Euro-Mediterranean Agreement establishing an Association between the European Communities and their Member States and the Arab Republic of Egypt) Order 2003 and the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Agreement establishing an Association between the European Communities and its Member States and the Republic of Chile) Order 2003,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Virginia Bottomley from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Orders); and nominated in substitution Peter Bottomley.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Education and Skills,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Secondary Education: Teacher Retention]; to be printed [No. 714-i] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

    2    Public Accounts,-(1) Twenty-third Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Innovation in the NHS - the acquisition of the Heart Hospital]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 299];

    (2) Twenty-fourth Report from the Committee [Community Legal Service: the introduction of contracting]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 185]; and

    (3) Twenty-fifth Report from the Committee [Protecting the public from waste]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 352]

    [Mr Edward Leigh].



 
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