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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 18th March 2003

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Regulatory Reform,-Mr Peter Pike reported from the Regulatory Reform Committee the following Resolutions:

    That a draft Order in the same terms as the proposal for the Regulatory Reform (British Waterways Board) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 13th January, should be laid before the House.

    That the draft Regulatory Reform (Schemes under section 129 of the Housing Act 1988) (England) Order 2003, which was laid before this House on 11th March, should be approved.

    The Committee came to this Resolution without a Division.

2    Co-operatives and Community Benefit Societies Bill,-Mr George Stevenson reported from Standing Committee C, That it had gone through the Co-operatives and Community Benefit Societies Bill, and made Amendments thereunto.

    Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Friday 4th April; and to be printed [Bill 79].

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 553].

3    Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr David Chidgey reported from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Education (Admission Forums) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2900).

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Derek Conway reported from the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 111) (House of Commons Paper No. 421) on the Neighbourhood Renewal Fund.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

5    Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    Crime (International Co-operation) Bill [Lords],-The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision for furthering co-operation with other countries in respect of criminal proceedings and investigations; to extend jurisdiction to deal with terrorist acts or threats outside the United Kingdom; to amend section 5 of the Forgery and Counterfeiting Act 1981 and make corresponding provision in relation to Scotland; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

6    Crime (International Co-operation) Bill [Lords],-The Crime (International Co-operation) Bill [Lords] was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 78].

    Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Crime (International Co-operation) Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 78-EN].

7    Pensions (Winding-up) Bill,-The Order for reading the Pensions (Winding-up) Bill a second time on Friday 21st March was read and discharged.

    Bill to be read a second time on Friday 20th June.

8    Pensioner Trustees and Final Payments,-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to give pensioner members of occupational pension schemes the statutory right to be member-nominated trustees of such schemes, and to guarantee the final payments of such schemes; and for connected purposes: And that Mr Jim Cunningham, Ms Debra Shipley, Mr Stephen McCabe, Mr Bill Olner, Andy King and Mr Lindsay Hoyle do prepare and bring it in.

9    Pensioner Trustees and Final Payments Bill,-Mr Jim Cunningham accordingly presented a Bill to give pensioner members of occupational pension schemes the statutory right to be member-nominated trustees of such schemes, and to guarantee the final payments of such schemes; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 13th June and to be printed [Bill 77].

10    Iraq,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes its decisions of 25th November 2002 and 26th February 2003 to endorse UN Security Council Resolution 1441; recognises that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and long range missiles, and its continuing non-compliance with Security Council Resolutions, pose a threat to international peace and security; notes that in the 130 days since Resolution 1441 was adopted Iraq has not co-operated actively, unconditionally and immediately with the weapons inspectors, and has rejected the final opportunity to comply and is in further material breach of its obligations under successive mandatory UN Security Council Resolutions; regrets that despite sustained diplomatic effort by Her Majesty's Government it has not proved possible to secure a second Resolution in the UN because one Permanent Member of the Security Council made plain in public its intention to use its veto whatever the circumstances; notes the opinion of the Attorney General that, Iraq having failed to comply and Iraq being at the time of Resolution 1441 and continuing to be in material breach, the authority to use force under Resolution 678 has revived and so continues today; believes that the United Kingdom must uphold the authority of the United Nations as set out in Resolution 1441 and many Resolutions preceding it, and therefore supports the decision of Her Majesty's Government that the United Kingdom should use all means necessary to ensure the disarmament of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction; offers wholehearted support to the men and women of Her Majesty's Armed Forces now on duty in the Middle East; in the event of military operations requires that, on an urgent basis, the United Kingdom should seek a new Security Council Resolution that would affirm Iraq's territorial integrity, ensure rapid delivery of humanitarian relief, allow for the earliest possible lifting of UN sanctions, an international reconstruction programme, and the use of all oil revenues for the benefit of the Iraqi people and endorse an appropriate post-conflict administration for Iraq, leading to a representative government which upholds human rights and the rule of law for all Iraqis; and also welcomes the imminent publication of the Quartet's roadmap as a significant step to bringing a just and lasting peace settlement between Israelis and Palestinians and for the wider Middle East region, and endorses the role of Her Majesty's Government in actively working for peace between Israel and Palestine-(The Prime Minister);

    An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Question, in line 3, to leave out from '1441' to the word 'in' in line 20 and insert the words 'believes that the case for war against Iraq has not yet been established, especially given the absence of specific United Nations authorisation; but, in the event that hostilities do commence, pledges its total support for the British forces engaged in the Middle East, expresses its admiration for their courage, skill and devotion to duty, and hopes that their tasks will be swiftly concluded with minimal casualties on all sides', instead thereof.-(Mr Peter Kilfoyle.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made;

    And it being Seven o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.

11    Business of the House,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business), That, at this day's sitting, the Motion in the name of the Prime Minister relating to Iraq may be proceeded with, though opposed, until Ten o'clock-(Mr Jim Murphy):-It was agreed to.

12    Iraq,-The Question being again proposed, That the Amendment be made;

    And the Question being put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tony Lloyd, Mr Douglas Hogg: 217.

      Tellers for the Noes, Joan Ryan, Dan Norris: 396.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Main Question being put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Dan Norris, Joan Ryan: 412.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony Lloyd, Mr Douglas Hogg: 149.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House notes its decisions of 25th November 2002 and 26th February 2003 to endorse UN Security Council Resolution 1441; recognises that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and long range missiles, and its continuing non-compliance with Security Council Resolutions, pose a threat to international peace and security; notes that in the 130 days since Resolution 1441 was adopted Iraq has not co-operated actively, unconditionally and immediately with the weapons inspectors, and has rejected the final opportunity to comply and is in further material breach of its obligations under successive mandatory UN Security Council Resolutions; regrets that despite sustained diplomatic effort by Her Majesty's Government it has not proved possible to secure a second Resolution in the UN because one Permanent Member of the Security Council made plain in public its intention to use its veto whatever the circumstances; notes the opinion of the Attorney General that, Iraq having failed to comply and Iraq being at the time of Resolution 1441 and continuing to be in material breach, the authority to use force under Resolution 678 has revived and so continues today; believes that the United Kingdom must uphold the authority of the United Nations as set out in Resolution 1441 and many Resolutions preceding it, and therefore supports the decision of Her Majesty's Government that the United Kingdom should use all means necessary to ensure the disarmament of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction; offers wholehearted support to the men and women of Her Majesty's Armed Forces now on duty in the Middle East; in the event of military operations requires that, on an urgent basis, the United Kingdom should seek a new Security Council Resolution that would affirm Iraq's territorial integrity, ensure rapid delivery of humanitarian relief, allow for the earliest possible lifting of UN sanctions, an international reconstruction programme, and the use of all oil revenues for the benefit of the Iraqi people and endorse an appropriate post-conflict administration for Iraq, leading to a representative government which upholds human rights and the rule of law for all Iraqis; and also welcomes the imminent publication of the Quartet's roadmap as a significant step to bringing a just and lasting peace settlement between Israelis and Palestinians and for the wider Middle East region, and endorses the role of Her Majesty's Government in actively working for peace between Israel and Palestine.

13    Adjournment,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe);

    And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House, without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then one minute to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.59 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

    1    Immigration,-Draft Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Procedure) Rules 2003 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    2    Competition,-Enterprise Act 2002 (Consequential and Transitory Provisions) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 767), dated 18th March 2003 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

    3    Education,-(1) Education Act 2002 (School Meals) (Consequential Amendments) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 689), dated 12th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

    (2) Further Education (Amendment of Governing Bodies' Powers) Order (Northern Ireland) 2003 (S.R. (N.I.), 2003, No. 110), dated 28th February 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

    4    Immigration,-Asylum Support (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 755), dated 17th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

    5    Social Services,-(1) Community Care, Services for Carers and Children's Services (Direct Payments) (England) Regulations 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 762), and

    (2) Health and Social Care Act 2001 (Isles of Scilly) (No. 2) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 761),

    dated 17th March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

    6    Tribunals and Inquiries,-Tribunals and Inquiries (Road User Charging Adjudicators) (London) Order 2003 (S.I., 2003, No. 756), dated 16th March 2003 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

Other Papers:

    7    Culture, Media and Sport,-Department for Culture, Media and Sport Minute, dated 18th March 2003, concerning a proposed contingent liability relating to the British Library's exhibitions on 'The Painted Labyrinth: the World of the Lindisfarne Gospels' and 'Contemporary Chinese Prints' [by Command] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

    8    Health,-Department of Health Minute, dated 17th March 2003, concerning a proposed contingent liability for an indemnity for an investigation into the case of Mr Cyril Isaacs [by Command] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

    9    National Audit (Northern Ireland),-Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland on The PFI Contract for the Education and Library Boards' New Computerised Accounting System [by Act]; to be printed [No. 498] [Clerk of the House].

    10    Northern Ireland,-Summary of Health and Personal Services and Special Agencies Accounts 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General for Northern Ireland thereon [by Command]; to be printed [No. 465] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

    11    Public Petitions,-(1) Observations by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on the Petition [26th February] from residents of Blackpool South for restrictions on the sale and use of fireworks; and

    (2) Observations by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry on the Petition [26th February] from residents of Glasgow Anniesland and others for restrictions on the sale and use of fireworks

    [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

    1    Draft Vehicle and Operator Services Agency Trading Fund Order 2003,-The Speaker has appointed Mr Win Griffiths Chairman of the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Order, in place of Sir Nicholas Winterton.

    2    Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 114) (House of Commons Paper No. 477) on the Social Services (High Performers) Grant for 2003-04,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr David Lammy from the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Report); and nominated in substitution Jacqui Smith.

    3    Draft Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency Trading Fund Order 2003,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Jacqui Smith from the Tenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr David Lammy.

    4    Draft Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Act 2002 (Consequential and Incidental Provisions) Order 2003,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Dominic Grieve from the Thirteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Humfrey Malins.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    International Development,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the International Development Committee [The Operation of the Special Court for Sierra Leone]; to be printed, together with an Appendix [No. 548-i]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 6th March [Preparing for the humanitarian consequences of possible military action against Iraq]; to be printed [No. 444-ii]

    [Tony Baldry].

    2    Lord Chancellor's Department,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on the Lord Chancellor's Department [Courts Bill]; to be printed [No. 526-ii] [Mr A. J. Beith].

    3    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,-(1) Sixth Report from the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [The Licensing Bill [Lords] and the Evening Economy]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 541]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Reducing Regional Disparities in Prosperity]; to be printed [No. 492-ii]

    [Andrew Bennett].

    4    Regulatory Reform,-(1) Ninth Report from the Regulatory Reform Committee [Proposal for the Regulatory Reform (British Waterways Board) Order 2003], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 521]; and

    (2) Tenth Report from the Committee [Draft Regulatory Reform (Schemes under Section 129 of the Housing Act 1988) (England) Order 2003]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 549]

    [Mr Peter Pike].

    5    Statutory Instruments,-Fourteenth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 96-xiv] [Mr David Tredinnick].

    6    Trade and Industry,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [Pre-legislative scrutiny of the draft Electricity (Trading and Transmission) Bill]; to be printed [No. 468-iv] [Mr Martin O'Neill].

    7    Treasury,-(1) Third Special Report from the Treasury Committee [Government Response to the First Report from the Committee, on National Statistics Classification of Network Rail]; to be printed [No. 550]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The UK and the Euro]; to be printed [No. 187-xv]

    [Mr John McFall].


[W.H., No. 40]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

    Adjournment,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned-(Joan Ryan);

    And the sitting having continued for two and a half hours after Two o'clock, it was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 4.30 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst     
Deputy Speaker        



 
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