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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 16th December 2002

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Income Tax (Earnings and Pensions) Bill,-Mr Peter Pike reported from the Second Reading Committee on the Income Tax (Earnings and Pensions) Bill, That it had come to the following Resolution, which it had directed him to report to the House: That the Committee recommends that the Income Tax (Earnings and Pensions) Bill ought to be read a second time.

    Report to lie upon the Table.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 190].

2    First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Bill O'Brien reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Marriage (Northern Ireland) Order 2003.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Eric Illsley reported from the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 109) (House of Commons Paper No. 15) on Special Grant for addressing the costs of EC Regulation 2037/00 on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer (Disposal of Refrigeration Equipment) 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    The Lords have agreed to the Consolidated Fund Bill, without Amendment.

    The Lords have agreed to the Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill, without Amendment.

5    Pensions (Winding-up) Bill,-Mr Frank Field, supported by Derek Wyatt, Kevin Brennan, Mr Vernon Coaker, David Wright and Mr Andrew Miller, presented a Bill to provide for the distribution of the assets of pension schemes on winding-up and the duties of trustees in relation thereto; to make provision relating to the fees chargeable in relation to the process of winding-up a pension scheme; to establish arrangements for a compensation scheme for certain members of occupational schemes, including for the establishment of a levy on pension schemes; and to establish a review of the status of pensions-related liabilities in insolvency; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 7th March and to be printed [Bill 36].

6    Hunting Bill,-The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Hunting Bill;

    And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word 'That' to the end of the Question and add the words 'this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Hunting Bill because it seeks to impose unjustifiable restrictions on individual freedom, would increase the suffering of foxes and other animals that will be culled by less humane means, threatens the future of dogs and horses used in hunting and would rob British citizens of their livelihood; because it is intolerant of individuals who should be free to participate in hunting, which is not morally different from all other country sports and should not be singled out for discriminatory treatment; and because the Bill fails to uphold the duty of Parliament to defend the rights and legitimate interests of minorities', instead thereof.-(Mr David Lidington.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made;

    Keith Hill rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Dan Norris: 371.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Douglas Hogg, Mr David Wilshire: 155.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Paul Goodman, Gregory Barker: 164.

      Tellers for the Noes, Dan Norris, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 365.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Dan Norris, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 368.

      Tellers for the Noes, Gregory Barker, Mr Paul Goodman: 155.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read a second time.

7    Hunting Bill (Programme),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002], That the following provisions shall apply to the Hunting Bill:

    Committal

    1. The Bill shall be committed to a Standing Committee.

    Proceedings in Standing Committee

    2. Proceedings in the Standing Committee shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion on Thursday 13th February 2003.

    3. The Standing Committee shall have leave to sit twice on the first day on which it meets.

    Consideration and Third Reading

    4. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour before the moment of interruption on the day on which those proceedings are commenced.

    5. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement.

    6. Sessional Order B (programming committees) made on 28th June 2001 shall not apply to proceedings on consideration and Third Reading.

    Other proceedings

    7. Any other proceedings on the Bill (including any proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments or any further messages from the Lords) may be programmed-(Charlotte Atkins);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Dan Norris, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 331.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Hugh Robertson: 165.

    So the Question was agreed to.

8    Hunting Bill [Money],-Her Majesty's Recommendation having been signified to the proposed Motion relating to Hunting Bill [Money];

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 52 (Money and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills), That, for the purposes of any Act resulting from the Hunting Bill, it is expedient to authorise-

    (1) the payment out of money provided by Parliament of-

      (a) any expenditure incurred by a Minister of the Crown in connection with the Act, and

      (b) any increase attributable to the Act in the sums payable out of money so provided under any other enactment, and

    (2) the payment of sums into the Consolidated Fund-(Charlotte Atkins);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Dan Norris, Mr Nick Ainger: 338.

      Tellers for the Noes, Gregory Barker, Mr Bill Wiggin: 98.

    So the Question was agreed to.

9    Education and Skills,-Ordered, That Mr John Baron be discharged from the Education and Skills Committee and Mr Robert Jackson be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

10    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-Ordered, That Mr Eric Martlew and Mr Mark Todd be discharged from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee and Ms Candy Atherton and Mr Mark Lazarowicz be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

11    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,-Ordered, That Alistair Burt be discharged from the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee and Mr John Bercow be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

12    Welsh Affairs,-Ordered, That Chris Ruane be discharged from the Welsh Affairs Committee and Mr Huw Edwards be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

13    Public Petitions,-A Public Petition from residents of Pudsey constituency and others for legislation to ban hunting with dogs was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

14    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Jim Murphy.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes to Twelve o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 11.31 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 13th December 2002 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):

1    Treaty Series (No. 54, 2002),-Exchange of Notes, done at Dublin on 19th November 2002, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Ireland concerning Certain Decisions of the North/South Ministerial Council established by the Agreement between the two Governments signed at Dublin on 8th March 1999 and related matters [Cm. 5708] [Mr Secretary Straw].

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 13th December 2002 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments):

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

2    Education,-(1) Education (Mandatory Awards) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3060),

    (2) Education (Student Support) (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3059), and

    (3) Langley Junior School (Change to School Session Times) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3063),

    dated 11th December 2002 [Mr Secretary Clarke].

3    Registration of Births, Deaths, Marriages, etc.,-Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Fees) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3076), dated 11th December 2002 [Ruth Kelly].

Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 16th December 2002:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

4    Regulatory Reform,-Draft Regulatory Reform (Credit Unions) Order 2003, together with a statement by HM Treasury [by Act] [Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

5    Companies,-Companies (Principal Business Activities) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3081), dated 13th December 2002 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

6    Electricity,-Measuring Instruments (EC Requirements) (Electrical Energy Meters) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3082), dated 12th December 2002 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

7    Pensions,-Judicial Pensions and Retirement Act 1993 (Certain Qualifying Judicial Offices) (Amendment) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3083), dated 16th December 2002 [by Act] [Yvette Cooper].

8    Road Traffic,-School Crossing Patrol Sign (England and Wales) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3020), dated 5th December 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

9    Zoos,-Zoo Licensing Act 1981 (Amendment) (England and Wales) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 3080), dated 11th December 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

Other Papers:

10    Immigration and Asylum,-Report by the Independent Monitor of the entry clearance system appointed under section 23 of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].

11    National Audit,-Reports by the Comptroller and Auditor General on-

    (1) Environment Agency: Protecting the Public from Waste, and

    (2) Innovation in the National Health Service-the acquisition of the Heart Hospital

    [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 156 and 157] [Clerk of the House].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Draft Marriage (Northern Ireland) Order 2003,-The Committee of Selection has discharged The Reverend Martin Smyth from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Lady Hermon.

2    Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 109) (HC 15) on Special Grant for addressing the costs of EC Regulation 2037/00 on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer (Disposal of Refrigeration Equipment) 2002:

    (1) The Speaker has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman of the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Report in place of Mrs Irene Adams; and

    (2) The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr David Drew from the Committee (nominated in respect of the Report); and nominated in substitution Rob Marris.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Human Rights,-First Report from the Joint Committee on Human Rights [Scrutiny of Bills: Progress Report], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 191] [Jean Corston].

    2    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Urban Affairs Sub-Committee of the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [The Effectiveness of Government Regeneration Initiatives]; to be printed [No. 76-iv] [Mr Clive Betts].

    3    Public Accounts,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Tackling the risks to pension scheme members]; to be printed [No. 189-i] [Mr Edward Leigh].

CORRIGENDUM

    In the Votes and Proceedings for Thursday 12th December, the following item should have appeared after item 2:

    Community Care (Delayed Discharges etc.) Bill,-Derek Conway reported from Standing Committee D, That it had gone through the Community Care (Delayed Discharges etc.) Bill, and made Amendments thereunto.

    Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Monday 16th December; and to be printed [Bill 35].

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 179].



 
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