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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 2nd December 2002

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mrs Marion Roe reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Fur Farming (Prohibition) (Northern Ireland) Order 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

2    Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Bill O'Brien reported from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 107) (House of Commons Paper No. 60) on Special Grant for Activities Undertaken by Beacon Councils.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    Human Rights (Joint Committee),-The Lords communicate that they have appointed a Select Committee of six Lords to join with a Committee appointed by the Commons as the Joint Committee on Human Rights,

    To consider-

      (a) matters relating to human rights in the United Kingdom (but excluding consideration of individual cases);

      (b) proposals for remedial orders, draft remedial orders and remedial orders made under section 10 of and laid under Schedule 2 to the Human Rights Act 1998; and

      (c) in respect of draft remedial orders and remedial orders, whether the special attention of the House should be drawn to them on any of the grounds specified in Standing Order 74 (Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments);

    To report to the House:

      (a) in relation to any document containing proposals laid before the House under paragraph 3 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether a draft order in the same terms as the proposals should be laid before the House; or

      (b) in relation to any draft order laid under paragraph 2 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether the draft Order should be approved;

    and to have power to report to the House on any matter arising from its consideration of the said proposals or draft orders; and

    To report to the House in respect of any original order laid under paragraph 4 of the said Schedule 2, its recommendation whether:

      (a) the order should be approved in the form in which it was originally laid before Parliament; or

      (b) that the order should be replaced by a new order modifying the provisions of the original order; or

      (c) that the order should not be approved,

    and to have power to report to the House on any matter arising from its consideration of the said order or any replacement order;

    That the Committee have power to agree with any Committee appointed by the Commons in the appointment of a Chairman;

    That the Committee have power to adjourn from place to place;

    That the Committee have leave to report from time to time;

    That the Committee have power to appoint specialist advisers;

    That the minutes of evidence taken before the Committee from time to time shall, if the Committee think fit, be printed.

4    Policing in Northern Ireland,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes the continuing terrorist activities of the IRA; does not consider its representatives fit to participate in the government of part of the United Kingdom; deplores attempts to undermine further the integrity of policing in Northern Ireland by granting more concessions to Sinn Fein/IRA; and opposes offering non-elected convicted terrorists places on district policing partnerships-(The Reverend Ian Paisley);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'welcomes the enormous strides towards a more peaceful society in Northern Ireland and the significant developments in policing that have been achieved in recent years; further welcomes the changes to policing proposed in the Police (Northern Ireland) Bill; in particular endorses the Government's view that the time is not yet right to allow unelected ex-prisoners to serve on district policing partnerships; and further welcomes the Government's openness in sharing with this House and the people of Northern Ireland its thinking on how this might be achieved in the future, in the context of acts of completion on the part of paramilitaries', instead thereof.-(Jane Kennedy.)

    And the Question being put, pursuant to Order [27th November], That the original words stand part of the Question;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Iris Robinson, Mr Gregory Campbell: 6.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Jim Murphy, 298.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments) and Order [27th November]:-It was agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House welcomes the enormous strides towards a more peaceful society in Northern Ireland and the significant developments in policing that have been achieved in recent years; further welcomes the changes to policing proposed in the Police (Northern Ireland) Bill; in particular endorses the Government's view that the time is not yet right to allow unelected ex-prisoners to serve on district policing partnerships; and further welcomes the Government's openness in sharing with this House and the people of Northern Ireland its thinking on how this might be achieved in the future, in the context of acts of completion on the part of paramilitaries.

5    Convention on the Future of Europe,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That this House endorses the strategy of Her Majesty's Government in the Convention on the Future of Europe to establish structures for a Union of sovereign member states; rejects the alternative of a federal superstate; and resolves that the Order of 12th June 2002 relating to the Standing Committee on the Convention be renewed for the current Session of Parliament-(Secretary Peter Hain);

    And the Speaker's opinion as to the decision of the Question being challenged, the Division was deferred till Wednesday 4th December, pursuant to Orders [28th June 2001 and 29th October 2002].

6    European Communities,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Agreement on Trade, Development and Co-operation Between the European Community and its Member States and the Republic of South Africa) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 7th November, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

7    Income Tax,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that the Double Taxation Relief (Taxes on Income) (South Africa) Order 2002 be made in the form of the draft laid before this House on 30th October, in the last Session of Parliament-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

    Address to be presented to Her Majesty by such Members of the House as are of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council or of Her Majesty's Household.

8    Income Tax,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That an humble Address be presented to Her Majesty, praying that the Double Taxation Relief (Taxes on Income) (Taiwan) Order 2002 be made in the form of the draft laid before this House on 30th October, in the last Session of Parliament-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

    Address to be presented to Her Majesty by such Members of the House as are of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council or of Her Majesty's Household.

9    Sittings in Westminster Hall,-Ordered, That, on Thursday 19th December, there shall be no sitting in Westminster Hall.-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe.)

10    Adjournment (Christmas),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 25 (Periodic adjournments), That this House, at its rising on Thursday 19th December, do adjourn till Tuesday 7th January 2003-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

11    Tax Law Rewrite Bills (Joint Committee),-Ordered, That Mr Kenneth Clarke, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, Mr Michael Jack, Mr David Laws, Mr Chris Pond, Dawn Primarolo and Mr Anthony D. Wright be members of the Select Committee appointed to join with a Committee of the Lords as the Joint Committee on Tax Law Rewrite Bills.-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe.)

12    Administration,-Ordered, That Mr John Hayes be discharged from the Administration Committee and Mr Peter Luff be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

13    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-Ordered, That Mr Keith Simpson be discharged from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee and Mr Bill Wiggin be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

14    Northern Ireland Affairs,-Ordered, That Mr Henry Bellingham be discharged from the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee and Mr Hugo Swire be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

15    Scottish Affairs,-Ordered, That Mr Peter Atkinson be discharged from the Scottish Affairs Committee and Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

16    Trade and Industry,-Ordered, That Mr Philip Hammond be discharged from the Trade and Industry Committee and Mr Henry Bellingham be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

17    Transport,-Ordered, That Chris Grayling be discharged from the Transport Committee and Mr George Osborne be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

18    Public Petitions,-A Public Petition from Yasser Dirki, Fernando Bauza, Eileen Blake, John Enefer, Savas Kilic, residents of Hastings and others for representations to be made to the Government of Turkey for the release of Abdullah Ocalan was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

19    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Derek Twigg.)

    And accordingly, the House, having continued to sit till fourteen minutes past Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 11.14 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 29th November 2002 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):

1    Education and Skills,-Department for Education and Skills: Autumn Performance Report 2002 [Cm. 5689] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

2    Export Credits Guarantee Department,-Export Credits Guarantee Department: Autumn Performance Report 2002 [Cm. 5678] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

3    International Development,-Department for International Development: Autumn Performance Report 2002 [Cm. 5705] [Secretary Clare Short].

4    Immigration,-Paper, entitled Control of Immigration: Statistics United Kingdom 2001 [Cm. 5684] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

5    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister,-Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Autumn Performance Report 2002 [Cm. 5692] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

6    Trade and Industry,-Department of Trade and Industry Minute, dated 29th November 2002, concerning a proposed contingent liability in respect of an indemnity to be granted to British Energy [by Command] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

7    Treaty Series (No. 51, 2002),-Exchange of Notes, done at Abidjan on 6th February and 5th June 2002, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Republic of Côte d'Ivoire concerning Certain Commercial Debts (The United Kingdom/Côte d'Ivoire Debt Agreement No. 8 (1998)) [Cm. 5697] [Mr Secretary Straw].

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on Friday 29th November 2002 (Non-sitting Friday, S.O. No. 12) pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments):

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

8    Fees and Charges,-Community Design (Fees) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2942), dated 27th November 2002 [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

9    Road Traffic,-M11 Motorway (Junction 8) (Speed Limit) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2936), dated 27th November 2002 [Mr Secretary Darling].

Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 2nd December 2002:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

10    Architects,-Architects' Qualifications (EC Recognition) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2842), dated 20th November 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

11    Criminal Law,-(1) Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2844),

    (2) Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) Act 1990 (Enforcement of Overseas Forfeiture Orders) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2845), and

    (3) Drug Trafficking Act 1994 (Designated Countries and Territories) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2846),

    dated 20th November 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

12    Education,-(1) Education Act 2002 (Modifications of Provisions) (No. 2) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2953), dated 26th November 2002,

    (2) Education (Admissions Appeals Arrangements) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2899),

    (3) Education (Admission Forums) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2900),

    (4) Education (Co-ordination of Admission Arrangements) (Primary Schools) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2903),

    (5) Education (Co-ordination of Admission Arrangements) (Secondary Schools) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2904),

    (6) Education (Determination of Admission Arrangements) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2896),

    (7) Education (Objection to Admission Arrangements) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2901),

    (8) Education (School Information) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2897) and

    (9) Education (Variation of Admission Arrangements) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2898),

    dated 18th November 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Clarke].

13    Electronic Communications,-Office of Communications (Membership) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2956), dated 29th November 2002 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

14    European Communities,-European Communities (Designation) (No. 4) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2840), dated 20th November 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].

15    Maintenance of Dependents,-Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Orders (Hague Convention Countries) (Variation) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2838), dated 20th November 2002 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

Other Papers:

16    Churches Conservation,-(1) Review, Report and Financial Statements, and

    (2) Report and Accounts

    of the Churches Conservation Trust for 2001-02 [by Measure] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

17    Museums and Galleries,-Report and Financial Statements of the Greater Manchester Museum of Science and Industry Trust for 2001-02 [by Command] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

18    National Audit,-Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on the Ministry of Defence: Major Project Reports 2002 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 91] [Clerk of the House].

19    National Statistics,-Report of National Statistics for 2001-02 [by Command]; to be printed [No. 107] [Ruth Kelly].

20    Northern Ireland,-Proposal for a draft Health and Personal Social Services (Quality, Improvement and Regulations) (Northern Ireland) Order 2003, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

21    Parliamentary Commissioner,-First Report of the Parliamentary Commissioner for Administration, Session 2002-03: Access to Official Information: Investigations Completed, May to October 2002 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 115] [Clerk of the House].

22    Pollution Prevention and Control,-Local Authority Permits for Part B Installations and Mobile Plant (England and Wales) Fees and Charges Scheme 2002 [by Statutory Instrument] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

23    Statutory Instruments,-Report to the Speaker from the Statutory Instruments Reference Committee-

    That it has been notified in accordance with Regulation 11(3) of the Statutory Instruments Regulations 1947 that the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs has certified, under Regulation 6 of the said Regulations, that the printing and sale of the Nitrate Vulnerable Zones (Additional Designations) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2525) in accordance with the requirements of section 2(1) of the Statutory Instruments Act 1946, is unnecessary, having regard to the fact that they were in force for only eleven days before being revoked, and were available during that time in various media to representatives of those affected by them; and that the replacement Regulations are of precisely the same effect.

    That the Committee is satisfied that the certificate is justified and has taken no further action in the matter [The Speaker].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Regional Assemblies (Preparations) Bill,-The Speaker has appointed Mr John Butterfill and Mr Joe Benton Chairmen of Standing Committee A in respect of the Bill.

2    Regional Assemblies (Preparations) Bill (Programming Sub-Committee),-The Speaker has appointed Mr Edward Davey, Linda Gilroy, Mr Philip Hammond, Mr Christopher Leslie, Lawrie Quinn, Mr Desmond Swayne and Mr Phil Woolas members of the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee A in respect of the Bill.

3    Draft Fur Farming (Prohibition) (Northern Ireland) Order 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Michael Clapham, Gillian Merron and Mr Roger Williams from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Draft Order) and nominated in substitution Mr David Heath, Joan Ryan and Mr Malcolm Savidge.

4    Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 107) (HC 60) on Special Grant for Activities Undertaken by Beacon Councils,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas, Mr Kevan Jones and Mr Austin Mitchell from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Report) and nominated in substitution Mr Tom Levitt, John Robertson and Phil Sawford.

5    Draft Jobseeker's Allowance (Amendment) Regulations 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Gerald Howarth from the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations) and nominated in substitution Andrew Selous.

6    Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 109) (HC 15) on Special Grant for addressing the costs of EC Regulation 2037/00 on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer (Disposal of Refrigeration Equipment) 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Sir Teddy Taylor from the Eighth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Report) and nominated in substitution Mr David Curry.

7    Draft Flexible Working (Procedural Requirements) Regulations 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Bob Laxton from the Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations) and nominated in substitution Ian Stewart.

8    Companies (Fees) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2894),-The Committee of Selection has discharged Andrew Miller from the Tenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations) and nominated in substitution Mr Mark Todd.

9    Draft Environment (Northern Ireland) Order 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Gillian Merron from the Eleventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order) and nominated in substitution Derek Twigg.

Grand Committees

10    The Speaker has appointed Mr Win Griffiths Chairman of the Welsh Grand Committee in respect of its sittings on Thursday 5th December.

European Standing Committees

11    The Speaker has appointed Mr Peter Atkinson Chairman of European Standing Committee B in respect of European Union Documents 15275/01 and 12530/02 concerning major accident hazards involving dangerous substances.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Education and Skills,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Sure Start, Early Years and Childcare]; to be printed [No. 140-i] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

    2    Human Rights,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on Human Rights on 28th November and 2nd December [The Work of the Northern Ireland Human Rights Commission]; to be printed [Nos. 142-i and -ii] [Jean Corston].

    3    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Urban Affairs Sub-Committee of the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister: Housing, Planning, Local Government and the Regions Committee [The Effectiveness of Government Regeneration Initiatives]; to be printed [No. 76-ii] [Mr Clive Betts].

    4    Public Accounts,-(1) Third Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Tobacco Smuggling]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 143]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Ministry of Defence: Progress in Reducing Stocks]; to be printed [No. 144-i]

    [Mr Edward Leigh].



 
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