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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Thursday 21st November 2002

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Liaison,-Mr Alan Williams reported, pursuant to Standing Order No. 145 (Liaison Committee), that the Liaison Committee had directed him to report the following recommendation for the allocation of time for the consideration of Estimates on an allotted day (being the first allotted day in the present Session of Parliament):

    That a day not later than 6th February be allotted for the consideration of the following Vote on Account for financial year 2003-04:

    Home Office, in so far as it relates to the Government's drugs policy.

    Report to lie upon the Table.

2    Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Eric Illsley reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Excise Duties (Personal Reliefs) (Revocation) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2691).

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-David Taylor reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Release of Short-Term Prisoners on Licence (Amendment of Requisite Period) Order 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Welsh Grand Committee,-Mr Win Griffiths reported from the Welsh Grand Committee, That it had considered the matter of the Government's legislative programme as outlined in the Queen's Speech as it relates to Wales, referred to it on 14th November.

5    European Standing Committee A,-Mr Joe Benton reported from European Standing Committee A the following Resolution:

    That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 14394/01, draft Directive of the European Parliament and of the Council establishing a scheme for greenhouse gas emission allowance trading within the Community and amending Council Directive 96/61/EC; and supports the Government's objective of establishing a flexible, market-based instrument across the European Union in order to reduce greenhouse gas emissions towards meeting the United Kingdom's international obligations and domestic targets on climate change.

    Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.

6    European Parliament (Representation) Bill,-Yvette Cooper, supported by The Prime Minister, Mr Secretary Prescott, Mr Secretary Straw, Mr Secretary Murphy, Mrs Secretary Liddell and Secretary Peter Hain, presented a Bill to make provision enabling alterations to be made to the total number of Members of the European Parliament to be elected for the United Kingdom and to their distribution between the electoral regions; to make provision for and in connection with the establishment of an electoral region including Gibraltar for the purposes of European Parliamentary elections; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Monday 25th November and to be printed [Bill 7].

    Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the European Parliament (Representation) Bill be printed [Bill 7-EN].

7    Criminal Justice Bill,-Mr Secretary Blunkett, supported by The Prime Minister, Mr Secretary Prescott, Mr Secretary Milburn, Mr Secretary Murphy, Mrs Secretary Liddell, Secretary Peter Hain, Hilary Benn and Yvette Cooper, presented a Bill to make provision about criminal justice (including the powers and duties of the police) and about dealing with offenders; to amend the law relating to jury service; to amend Chapter 1 of Part 1 of the Crime and Disorder Act 1998; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Monday 25th November and to be printed [Bill 8].

    Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Criminal Justice Bill be printed [Bill 8-EN].

8    Reform of the Common Fisheries Policy,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House takes note of European Union documents No. COM (02) 181, Commission Communication on the reform of the Common Fisheries Policy ('Roadmap'), No. COM (02) 185, draft Council Regulation on the conservation and sustainable exploitation of fisheries resources under the Common Fisheries Policy, No. COM (02) 187, draft Council Regulation amending Regulation (EC) No. 2792/1999 laying down the detailed rules and arrangements regarding Community structural assistance in the fisheries sector, No. COM (02) 190, draft Council Regulation establishing an emergency Community measure for scrapping fishing vessels, No. COM (02) 186, Commission Communication, a Community Action Plan to integrate environmental protection requirements into the Common Fisheries Policy, and No. COM (02) 180, Commission Communication, a Community Action Plan for the eradication of illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing; and supports the Government's objectives, which are to work for a Common Fisheries Policy that is environmentally and economically sustainable, to strengthen the Common Fisheries Policy's regional dimension, to increase industry involvement in decisions on fisheries management and conservation and improve the dialogue between fishermen and scientists, to increase the integration of environmental concerns into fisheries management, to introduce clearer procedures for responding quickly to conservation emergencies, to confirm the 6 and 12-mile access restrictions on a permanent basis, to continue relative stability (including the Hague Preference) and retain the Shetland Box, to ensure greater effectiveness and consistency in control and enforcement of European Union requirements, while attempting to simplify the burden of control on fishermen, to improve the value for money of third country agreements and their coherence with development and environmental objectives and to promote the effective operation of Regional Fisheries Organizations-(Mr Elliot Morley);

    An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Question, in line 13, to leave out from the word 'fishing' to the end of the Question and add the words 'calls on the Government to resist any proposal for inappropriate and excessive cuts in fishing effort and Total Allowable Catches for 2003, to confirm the 6 and 12-mile access restrictions on a permanent basis, to continue relative stability (including the Hague Preference) and retain the Shetland Box, and to seek the early review of third country agreements; believes that future policies must be based on Regional Management Committees through which fishermen would work with scientists and governments to agree sustainable and fairly enforced zonal management for their local fisheries; and calls on the Government to work with the devolved administrations and the fishing industry to produce its promised strategy for the long-term sustainable future of the UK fishing industry and to seek backing for this strategy at meetings of the EU Fisheries Council', instead thereof.-(Andrew George.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made;

    And it being four hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Order [18th November].

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Alan Reid, Sir Robert Smith: 32.

      Tellers for the Noes, Joan Ryan, Mr John Heppell: 232.

    So the Question was negatived.

    The Deputy Speaker then put the remaining Question required to be put at that hour.

    The Main Question being put;

    Resolved, That this House takes note of European Union documents No. COM (02) 181, Commission Communication on the reform of the Common Fisheries Policy ('Roadmap'), No. COM (02) 185, draft Council Regulation on the conservation and sustainable exploitation of fisheries resources under the Common Fisheries Policy, No. COM (02) 187, draft Council Regulation amending Regulation (EC) No. 2792/1999 laying down the detailed rules and arrangements regarding Community structural assistance in the fisheries sector, No. COM (02) 190, draft Council Regulation establishing an emergency Community measure for scrapping fishing vessels, No. COM (02) 186, Commission Communication, a Community Action Plan to integrate environmental protection requirements into the Common Fisheries Policy, and No. COM (02) 180, Commission Communication, a Community Action Plan for the eradication of illegal, unreported and unregulated fishing; and supports the Government's objectives, which are to work for a Common Fisheries Policy that is environmentally and economically sustainable, to strengthen the Common Fisheries Policy's regional dimension, to increase industry involvement in decisions on fisheries management and conservation and improve the dialogue between fishermen and scientists, to increase the integration of environmental concerns into fisheries management, to introduce clearer procedures for responding quickly to conservation emergencies, to confirm the 6 and 12-mile access restrictions on a permanent basis, to continue relative stability (including the Hague Preference) and retain the Shetland Box, to ensure greater effectiveness and consistency in control and enforcement of European Union requirements, while attempting to simplify the burden of control on fishermen, to improve the value for money of third country agreements and their coherence with development and environmental objectives and to promote the effective operation of Regional Fisheries Organizations.

9    Selection,-A Motion was made, pursuant to Order [18th November], and the Question being proposed, That Mr John Hayes be discharged from the Committee of Selection and Mr Peter Luff be added to the Committee-(Keith Hill);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out the words 'Mr Peter Luff' and insert the words 'Pete Wishart', instead thereof.-(Pete Wishart.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made:-The Amendment was, with leave of the House, withdrawn.

    And the Main Question being put;

    Ordered, That Mr John Hayes be discharged from the Committee of Selection and Mr Peter Luff be added to the Committee.

10    Public Petitions,-A Public Petition from 'Consumers for Health Choice' and others against restrictions on the availability of natural health products was presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

11    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Nick Ainger.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eight minutes past Eight o'clock, adjourned till Monday 25th November.

[Adjourned at 8.08 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock on Monday next.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

    1    Companies,-Companies (Fees) (Amendment No. 2) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2894), dated 21st November 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

    2    Competition,-Draft Supply of Beer (Tied Estate) (Revocation) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

    3    Northern Ireland,-(1) Draft Fur Farming (Prohibition) (Northern Ireland) Order 2002, and

    (2) draft Harbours (Northern Ireland) Order 2002

    [by Act], with Explanatory Memoranda thereon [by Command] [Mr Secretary Murphy].

    4    Terms and Conditions of Employment,-Draft Flexible Working (Procedural Requirements) Regulations 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    5    Animals,-Poultry Breeding Flocks, Hatcheries and Animal By-Products (Fees) (England) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2875), dated 19th November 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

    6    Disabled Persons,-Rail Vehicle Accessibility (Summerlee Tramcar No. 392) Exemption Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2873), dated 20th November 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

    7    Partnership,-Limited Liability Partnerships (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2895), dated 21st November 2002 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

    8    Pesticides,-Plant Protection Products (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2874), dated 21st November 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

    9    Safety of Sports Grounds,-Safety of Sports Grounds (Designation) (No. 2) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2893), dated 21st November 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

Other Papers:

    10    Convention on the Future of Europe,-Fifth Progress Report from the United Kingdom National Parliament Representatives to the Convention on the Future of Europe [The Speaker].

    11    Defence,-Consolidated Departmental Resource Accounts for 2001-02 for the Ministry of Defence, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 47] [Ruth Kelly].

    12    Health Service Commissioner,-First Report of the Health Service Ombudsman, Session 2002-03: Investigations Completed-April-July 2002 [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 51-I and -II] [Clerk of the House].

    13    Public Petitions,-(1) Observations by the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Performance and Quality, Department of Health, on the Petition [6th November, in the last Session of Parliament] of residents of Taunton and others for the making available of all drugs to all patients on the basis of clinical need alone; and

    (2) Observations by the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions on the Petition [15th October, in the last Session of Parliament] of current and former employees of ASW Sheerness and their partners for the restoration of the ASW Sheerness pension fund

    [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

    14    Royal Armouries,-Report by the Department of Culture, Media and Sport of Contingent Liabilities under the Government Indemnity Scheme relating to a Loan from Trustees of the Royal Armouries for armour on display at the Tower of London [by Command] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

    15    Sea Fisheries,-Shrimp Fishing Nets Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 2870), dated 18th November 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

    16    Severn Bridges,-Financial Statement of Severn River Crossing Plc for 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

    17    Standards in Public Life,-Eighth Report of the Committee on Standards in Public Life, Standards of Conduct in the House of Commons [by Command] [Cm. 5663] [The Prime Minister].

APPENDIX II

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-(1) First Report from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Reform of the Common Fisheries Policy], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Reform of the Common Fisheries Policy Sub-Committee of the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 110]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Government Response to the Foot and Mouth Inquiry Reports and other matters arising]; to be printed [No. 111]

    [Mr David Curry].

    2    Public Administration,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Public Service Targets]; to be printed [No. 62-ii] [Tony Wright].

    3    Treasury,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [Bank of England November 2002 Inflation Report]; to be printed [No. 108-i] [Mr John McFall].

[W.H., No. 1]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.

    Adjournment (Further education),-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned-(Mr Jim Murphy);

    And the sitting having continued for three hours, it was adjourned without Question put, till Tuesday 26th November.

[Adjourned at 5.51 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst

Deputy Speaker



 
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