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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 8th July 2002

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Eric Illsley reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Northern Ireland Assembly (Elections) (Amendment) Order 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

2    Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mrs Marion Roe reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft State Pension Credit Regulations 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Peter Pike reported from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Government's assessment, as set out in the Financial Statement and Budget Report 2002-03 and the Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report 2002-03, for the purposes of approval under Section 5 of the European Communities (Amendment) Act 1993.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    European Standing Committee B,-Mr Edward O'Hara reported from European Standing Committee B the following Resolution:

    That the Committee takes note of European Union Documents No. 7727/2/02, draft Council Conclusions for the preparation of the World Summit on Sustainable Development, and No. 6863/02, draft Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council on aid for poverty diseases (HIV/AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis) in developing countries; and welcomes the Government's approach to the World Summit and to discussions on differential pricing of medicines and other key issues.

    Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.

5    Health (Air Travellers) (No. 2) Bill,-Mrs Cheryl Gillan, supported by Mr Charles Hendry, Mr David Wilshire, Dr Julian Lewis, Mr Julian Brazier, Mr Stephen O'Brien, Mr Peter Luff, Mr John Randall and Miss Anne McIntosh, presented a Bill to make provision for research and development, and dissemination of information and advice, relating to flight-related deep vein thrombosis and other medical conditions affecting air travellers; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 19th July and to be printed [Bill 165].

6    Employment Bill (Programme) (No. 3),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [28th June 2001], That the following provisions shall apply to the Employment Bill for the purpose of supplementing the Order of 27th November:

    Consideration of Lords Amendments

    1. Proceedings on Consideration of Lords Amendments to the Bill shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at Seven o'clock on the day on which those proceedings are commenced.

    Subsequent stages

    2. The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords on the Bill shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement-(Mr John Heppell):-It was agreed to.

7    Employment Bill,-The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Employment Bill.

    Lords Amendments Nos. 1 to 61 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 1, 2, 4, 7, 9 to 15, 17 and 21 to 24.

    It being Seven o'clock, the Deputy Speaker, pursuant to Order [this day], put the Question necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.

    Lords Amendments Nos. 62 to 95 were agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendments Nos. 76, 77 and 79.

8    Opposition Day [17th allotted day: first part],-It being an allotted day at the disposal of the Leader of the Opposition in pursuance of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), the House proceeded to consider Opposition business.

    Care homes,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House condemns the Government's failure to address the crisis facing care homes for the elderly, which has resulted in the closure of a large number of care homes, with damaging consequences for the sector and for many other aspects of the work of the NHS; remains concerned that the combined impact of the levels of fees paid to care homes by local authorities and the National Minimum Standards will continue to have an adverse impact upon small to medium size care homes in particular, leading to further losses in capacity; regrets that the terms under which the Government introduced 'free nursing care' on 1st October 2001 differ very markedly from those laid out when the draft legislation was under consideration; deplores the increase in the number of elderly people receiving inappropriate care and the large number of hospital beds being blocked and operations being cancelled because of the loss of care home beds into which to discharge hospital patients once their treatment has been completed; and calls on the Government to recognise the damaging effects of this crisis in care on the most vulnerable members of society and swiftly and decisively to end the suffering, disruption and distress that is being caused to the elderly by the Government's policies-(Mr Simon Burns);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 1, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'welcomes the Government's strategy for modernising social care services through unprecedented real terms increases in resources; condemns the Opposition for opposing this investment; welcomes the improved joint working between the NHS, social services, and the independent care sectors which has seen a reduction in levels of delayed discharges of over 1,000 since September 2001; recognises Government action to provide real choice for older people in long term care and to place a greater emphasis on users and patients in the design and delivery of services; notes the confusion, inconsistency and lack of independence in previous registration and inspection regimes and welcomes the Government's national framework for standards and quality; further notes that the extra funding is enabling local councils to increase fees paid to care homes and that providers are continuing to open new homes; and recognises that the number of people receiving intensive home care support is increasing, enabling more people to live independently at home for longer', instead thereof.-(Jacqui Smith.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;

    Mr Patrick McLoughlin rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:-It was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Julian Brazier, Mr Desmond Swayne: 184.

      Tellers for the Noes, Angela Smith, Mr Phil Woolas: 320.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Angela Smith, Mr Phil Woolas: 312.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Julian Brazier, Mr Desmond Swayne: 185.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House welcomes the Government's strategy for modernising social care services through unprecedented real terms increases in resources; condemns the Opposition for opposing this investment; welcomes the improved joint working between the NHS, social services, and the independent care sectors which has seen a reduction in levels of delayed discharges of over 1,000 since September 2001; recognises Government action to provide real choice for older people in long term care and to place a greater emphasis on users and patients in the design and delivery of services; notes the confusion, inconsistency and lack of independence in previous registration and inspection regimes and welcomes the Government's national framework for standards and quality; further notes that the extra funding is enabling local councils to increase fees paid to care homes and that providers are continuing to open new homes; and recognises that the number of people receiving intensive home care support is increasing, enabling more people to live independently at home for longer.

9    Royal Assent,-The Speaker notified the House, in accordance with the Royal Assent Act 1967, That Her Majesty had signified her Royal Assent to the following Acts, agreed upon by both Houses:

      Appropriation Act 2002

      National Insurance Contributions Act 2002

      Industrial and Provident Societies Act 2002

      Tax Credits Act 2002

      Employment Act 2002.

10    Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Pathogens Access Appeal Commission (Procedure) Rules 2002, which were laid before this House on 12th June, be approved-(Mr Fraser Kemp):-It was agreed to.

11    Supreme Court of England and Wales,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Court of Appeal (Appeals from Pathogens Access Appeal Commission) Rules 2002, which were laid before this House on 12th June, be approved-(Mr Fraser Kemp):-It was agreed to.

12    Delegated Legislation,-Ordered, That the Motion in the name of Secretary Tessa Jowell relating to the revised Treasure Act 1996 Code of Practice shall be treated as if it related to an instrument subject to the provisions of Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation) in respect of which notice has been given that the instrument be approved.-(Mr Fraser Kemp.)

13    Administration,-Ordered, That Dr Nick Palmer be discharged from the Administration Committee and Julie Morgan be added to the Committee.-(Mr John McWilliam, on behalf of the Committee of Selection.)

14    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Fraser Kemp.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till six minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.54 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1    Countryside,-Access to the Countryside (Provisional and Conclusive Maps) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1710), dated 7th July 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

2    Education,-Education (Grants in respect of Voluntary Aided Schools) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1720), dated 27th June 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Estelle Morris].

3    Inheritance Tax,-(1) Inheritance Tax (Delivery of Accounts) (Excepted Estates) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1733),

    (2) Inheritance Tax (Delivery of Accounts) (Excepted Settlements) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1732), and

    (3) Inheritance Tax (Delivery of Accounts) (Excepted Transfers and Excepted Terminations) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1731),

    dated 5th July 2002 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].

4    Magistrates' Courts,-Magistrates' Courts (Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Orders) (Amendment) Rules 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1734), dated 7th July 2002 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

5    Social Security,-Social Security (Industrial Injuries) (Prescribed Diseases) Amendment Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1717), dated 2nd July 2002, and

    (2) Social Security (Jobcentre Plus Interviews) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1703), dated 3rd July 2002

    [by Act] [Mr Secretary Smith].

Other Papers:

6    Courts and Legal Services,-Report and Accounts of the Legal Services Ombudsman for 2001-02 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 940] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

7    Defence,-Ministry of Defence Minute, dated 8th July 2002, concerning a contingent liability concerning the Ministry of Defence's agreement with QinetiQ on the allocation of pre-vesting liabilities [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon].

8    Office of the Deputy Prime Minister,-Minute by the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, dated 8th July 2002, concerning a proposed contingent liability in relation to extra work by fire authorities in England and Wales on mass decontamination [by Command] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

9    Pensions,-Report and Accounts of the Pensions Compensation Board for 2001-02, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1051] [Clerk of the House].

10    Public Works Loans,-Report of the Public Works Loan Board for 2001-02 [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].

11    School Standards and Framework,-Account of the New Addington Education Action Zone for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1053] [Clerk of the House].

12    Science and Technology,-Accounts of-

    (1) the Council for the Central Laboratory of the Research Councils,

    (2) the Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council, and

    (3) the Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council

    for 2001-02, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 1056, 1057 and 1058] [Clerk of the House].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Public Trustee (Liability and Fees) Bill [Lords],-The Committee of Selection has discharged Laura Moffatt and Angela Watkinson from Standing Committee A (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr John Baron and Mr Gordon Marsden.

2    Commonwealth Bill,-(1) The Speaker has appointed Mr John Cummings Chairman of Standing Committee C in respect of the Bill; and

    (2) The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Mike O'Brien from Standing Committee C (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Ivor Caplin.

3    Draft State Pension Credit Regulations 2002,-(1) The Speaker has appointed Mrs Marion Roe Chairman of the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Regulations, in place of Mr David Amess; and

    (2) The Committee of Selection has discharged Andy Burnham from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Ann Taylor.

4    Government's assessment, as set out in the Financial Statement and Budget Report 2002-03 and the Economic and Fiscal Strategy Report 2002-03, for the purposes of approval under section 5 of the European Communities (Amendment) Act 1993,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Tony Wright from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the assessment); and nominated in substitution Mr Anthony D. Wright.

5    Draft National Minimum Wage Regulations 1999 (Amendment) Regulations 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Tam Dalyell from the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Ian Stewart.

6    Draft Insolvency Act 1986 (Amendment) (No. 3) Regulations 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Bill Wiggin from the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Andrew Selous.

7    Draft Representation of the People (Scotland) (Amendment) Regulations 2002, the draft Representation of the People (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 and the draft Representation of the People (England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Judy Mallaber and Mr Bill Tynan from the Twelfth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Jim Sheridan and Mr Frank Roy.

8    Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 92) (House of Commons Paper No. 877) on Special Grants for Asylum Seekers Support (Adults and Families of Asylum Seekers) for 1999-2000 and the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 99) (House of Commons Paper No. 878) on Special Grants for Unaccompanied Asylum-Seeking Children for 2002-03,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Bob Spink from the Thirteenth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Reports); and nominated in substitution Sir Paul Beresford.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Draft Communications Bill,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on the Draft Communications Bill; to be printed [No. 876-x] [Nick Harvey].

    2    Information,-(1) First Report from the Information Committee [Digital Technology: Working for Parliament and the Public], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1065]; and

    (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [Digital Technology: Working for Parliament and the Public]

    [Michael Fabricant].

    3    Science and Technology,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [National Endowment for Science, Technology and the Arts-a follow-up]; to printed [No. 1064] [Dr Ian Gibson].

    4    Transport, Local Government and the Regions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Urban Affairs Sub-Committee of the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee [Draft Local Government Bill]; to be printed [No. 981-i] [Andrew Bennett].



 
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