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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 10th June 2002

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    Dignity at Work Bill [Lords],-The Lords have passed a Bill to provide for a right of dignity at work for employees; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

    House of Lords Reform,-The Lords have come to the following Resolution, to which they desire the agreement of this House:

    That it is expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed-

      (1) to consider issues relating to House of Lords reform, including the composition and powers of the Second Chamber and its role and authority within the context of Parliament as a whole, having regard in particular to the impact which any proposed changes would have on the existing pre-eminence of the House of Commons, such consideration to include the implications of a House composed of more than one 'category' of member and the experience and expertise which the House of Lords in its present form brings to its function as the revising Chamber; and

      (2) having regard to paragraph (1) above, to report on options for the composition and powers of the House of Lords and to define and present to both Houses options for composition, including a fully nominated and fully elected House, and intermediate options;

    and to consider and report on-

      (a) any changes to the relationship between the two Houses which may be necessary to ensure the proper functioning of Parliament as a whole in the context of a reformed Second Chamber, and in particular, any new procedures for resolving conflict between the two Houses; and

      (b) the most appropriate and effective legal and constitutional means to give effect to any new Parliamentary settlement;

    and in all the foregoing considerations, to have regard to-

      (i) the Report of the Royal Commission on House of Lords Reform (Cm. 4534);

      (ii) the White Paper The House of Lords-Completing the Reform (Cm. 5291), and the responses received thereto;

      (iii) debates and votes in both Houses of Parliament on House of Lords reform; and

      (iv) the House of Commons Public Administration Select Committee report The Second Chamber: Continuing the Reform, including its consultation of the House of Commons, and any other relevant select committee reports.

2    National Insurance Contributions Bill,-The House, according to Order, resolved itself into a Committee on the National Insurance Contributions Bill.

    (In the Committee)

    Clause No. 1 (Primary Class 1 contributions).

    Amendment (No. 1) proposed, in page 2, line 4, to leave out the words 'the current upper earnings limit' and insert '100,000'.-(Dr Evan Harris.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:-Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Another Amendment (No. 2) proposed, in page 2, line 8, to leave out the words '1 per cent.' and insert the words '10 per cent. on earnings over 100,000'.-(Dr Evan Harris.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Tom Brake, Sir Robert Smith: 43.

      Tellers for the Noes, Angela Smith, Jim Fitzpatrick: 384.

    Question put, That the Clause stand part of the Bill.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr Nick Ainger: 315.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr John Randall: 125.

    Clause No. 2 (Secondary Class 1 contributions).

    Amendment (No. 6) proposed, in page 3, line 1, to leave out from the beginning to the end of line 3 and insert the words-

      '(2)For the purposes of this Act the secondary percentage is

      (a) 12.8 per cent., the "full percentage", for all employers who do not provide health insurance;

      (b) 11.8 per cent., the "reduced percentage", for employers who do provide health insurance in respect of those employees for whom they provide health insurance.'.-(Mr John Bercow.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Julian Brazier: 126.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Jim Fitzpatrick: 338.

    Another Amendment (No. 10) proposed, in page 3, line 3, at the end, to insert the words 'provided that, in respect of employees of pension age or over at the beginning of the year of assessment, the secondary percentage shall be 11.8 per cent.'.-(Mr Christopher Chope.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Julian Brazier: 123.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Jim Fitzpatrick: 337.

    And it being after half-past Eight o'clock, the Chairman, pursuant to Order [13th May], put the Questions necessary to dispose of the business to be concluded at that hour.

    Clause, and Clauses Nos. 3 to 8, agreed to.

    Schedule No. 1 (Consequential amendments).

    Amendment (No. 14) made.

    Schedule, as amended, and Schedule No. 2 agreed to.

    Whereupon the Chairman left the Chair to report the Bill to the House.

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    The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair; and Joan Ryan reported, That the Committee had gone through the Bill, and made an Amendment thereunto.

    The House, according to Order [13th May], proceeded to consider the Bill, as amended in the Committee.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Bill be now read the third time;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr John Heppell, Mr Phil Woolas: 336.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Desmond Swayne, Mr Julian Brazier: 129.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed.

3    Investigatory Powers,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Interception of Communications: Code of Practice) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 8th May, be approved-(Mr Jim Murphy):-It was agreed to.

4    Regulatory Reform,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 18 (Consideration of draft deregulation, etc., orders), That the draft Regulatory Reform (Vaccine Damage Payments Act 1979) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 29th April, be approved-(Mr Jim Murphy):-It was agreed to.

5    Northern Ireland Grand Committee,-Ordered, That-

    (1) the matter of the scope for a Bill of Rights in Northern Ireland, being a matter relating exclusively to Northern Ireland, be referred to the Northern Ireland Grand Committee;

    (2) the Committee shall meet at Westminster on Thursday 27th June at 2.30 p.m.; and

    (3) at the meeting-

      (a) the Chairman shall interrupt proceedings at 4.30 p.m.; and

      (b) at the conclusion of those proceedings a motion for the adjournment of the Committee may be moved by a Minister of the Crown pursuant to Standing Order No. 116(5) (Northern Ireland Grand Committee (sittings)).-(Mr Jim Murphy.)

6    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Jim Murphy.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-six minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.34 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers presented by Her Majesty's Command and delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on the undermentioned dates during the adjournment pursuant to Standing Order No. 158 (Presentation of command papers):

Thursday 30th May 2002

1    Competition Commission,-Report by the Competition Commission on the merger between Cargill Incorporated and Cerestar SA [Cm. 5521] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

2    European Union,-Paper, entitled Developments in the European Union: July-December 2001: The Belgian Presidency [Cm. 5534] [Mr Secretary Straw].

Friday 31st May 2002

3    Treaty Series (No. 25, 2002),-Treaty, done at Tegucigalpa on 4th December 2001, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Republic of Honduras concerning the Delimitation of the Maritime Areas between the Cayman Islands and the Republic of Honduras [Cm. 5535] [Mr Secretary Straw].

Friday 7th June 2002

4    Treaty Series (No. 26, 2002),-Exchange of Letters, done at Brussels on 14th January and 13th February 2002, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the European Commission concerning the Termination of the Privileges granted to the Joint European Torus (JET) Joint Undertaking [Cm. 5537] [Mr Secretary Straw].

Papers delivered to the Votes and Proceedings Office on the undermentioned dates during the adjournment pursuant to Standing Order No. 159 (Presentation of statutory instruments):

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

Monday 27th May 2002

5    Road Traffic,-Goods Vehicles (Community Authorisations) Modification of the Road Traffic (Foreign Vehicles) Act 1972) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1415), dated 24th May 2002 [Mr Secretary Byers].

6    Social Security,-Income Support (General) and Jobseeker's Allowance Amendment Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1411), dated 24th May 2002 [Mr Secretary Darling].

7    Supreme Court (Northern Ireland),-Rules of the Supreme Court (Northern Ireland) (Amendment No. 2) 2002 (S.R. (N.I.), 2002, No. 202), dated 17th April 2002 [Ms Rosie Winterton].

Wednesday 29th May 2002

8    Education,-(1) Education (Student Loans) (Amendment) (No. 2) (England and Wales) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1433), dated 27th May 2002, and

    (2) Education (Teachers' Qualifications and Health Standards) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1434), dated 24th May 2002

    [Secretary Estelle Morris].

9    Race Relations,-Race Relations Act 1976 (General Statutory Duty: Code of Practice) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1435), dated 28th May 2002 [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

10    Taxes,-Tax Credit (New Category of Child Care Provider) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1417), dated 22nd May 2002 [Mr Secretary Hoon].

Thursday 30th May 2002

11    Justices of the Peace,-Commission Areas (West Mercia) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1440), dated 27th May 2002 [Yvette Cooper].

12    Legal Aid and Advice,-Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment No. 2) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 2002 (S.R. (N.I.), 2002, No. 212), dated 29th May 2002 [Ms Rosie Winterton].

13    Social Security,-Social Security (Attendance Allowance and Disability Living Allowance) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1406), dated 22nd May 2002 [Mr Secretary Smith].

Friday 31st May 2002

14    Agriculture,-Home-Grown Cereals Authority (Rate of Levy) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1461), dated 30th May 2002 [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

15    Merchant Shipping,-Merchant Shipping (Safety of Navigation) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1473), dated 31st May 2002 [Mr Secretary Darling].

16    Pesticides,-Plant Protection Products (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1460), dated 30th May 2002 [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

17    Road Traffic,-Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1474), dated 31st May 2002 [Mr Secretary Darling].

Thursday 6th June 2002

18    Customs and Excise,-Hydrocarbon Oil (Industrial Reliefs) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1471), dated 5th June 2002 [Ruth Kelly].

19    Ministers of the Crown,-Secretaries of State for Education and Skills and for Work and Pensions Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1397), dated 22nd May 2002 [Secretary Estelle Morris].

20    Plant Health,-Plant Health (Forestry) (Phytophthora ramorum) (Great Britain) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1478), dated 6th June 2002 [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

Friday 7th June 2002

21    Disabled Persons,-Disability Discrimination (Designation of Educational Institutions) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1459), and

    (2) Disability Discrimination (Educational Institutions) (Alteration of Leasehold Premises) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1458),

    dated 30th May 2002 [Secretary Estelle Morris].

Papers presented or laid upon the Table on Monday 10th June 2002:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

22    Investigatory Powers,-(1) Draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Covert Human Intelligence Sources: Code of Practice) Order 2002,

    (2) draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Covert Surveillance: Code of Practice) Order 2002,

    (3) draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Designation of Public Authorities for the Purposes of Intrusive Surveillance) Order 2002, and

    (4) draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Directed Surveillance and Covert Human Intelligence Sources: Additional Public Authorities) Order 2002

    [by Act], with Explanatory Memoranda thereon [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

23    Financial Services and Markets,-Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Consequential Amendments and Transitional Provisions) (Credit Unions) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1501), dated 10th June 2002 [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].

24    Highways,-Street Works (Reinstatement) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1487), dated 10th June 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

25    Road Traffic,-(1) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Dorset) (District of East Dorset) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1485), dated 10th June 2002,

    (2) The Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Dorset) (District of North Dorset) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1504), dated 9th June 2002,

    (3) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Dorset) (District of Purbeck) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1484), dated 10th June 2002, and

    (4) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Dorset) (District of West Dorset) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1486), dated 10th June 2002

[by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

26    Social Care,-National Care Standards Commission (Fees and Frequency of Inspections) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1505), dated 10th June 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

27    Universities of Oxford and Cambridge,-(1) Two Statutes, dated 16th January 2002, made by the University of Cambridge, amending the Statutes of the University, and

    (2) Statute, dated 5th February 2002, made by the University of Oxford, amending the Statutes of the University

[by Act] [Mr Robin Cook].

28    Value Added Tax,-(1) Value Added Tax (Cars) (Amendment) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1502), and

    (2) Value Added Tax (Special Provisions) (Amendment) (No. 2) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1503),

dated 10th June 2002 [by Act] [Mr Paul Boateng].

Other Papers:

29    Covent Garden Market,-Statement of remuneration and allowances payable to members of the Covent Garden Market Authority [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

30    Education and Skills,-Department for Education and Skills Minute, dated 10th June 2002, revising a Minute dated 26th March 2002, concerning a proposed contingent liability in respect of arrangements for the appointment of a receiver to manage the affairs of Nottinghamshire Enterprises Ltd. (formerly North Nottinghamshire Training and Enterprise Council) [by Command] [Secretary Estelle Morris].

31    Financial Reporting to Parliament,-Departmental Reports 2002: The Government's Expenditure Plans for 2002-03 to 2003-04 for-

    (1) Chancellor of the Exchequer's Departments: HM Treasury, Debt Management Office, National Investment and Loans Office, Office of Government Commerce and Registry of Friendly Societies [by Command] [Cm. 5425] [Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer];

    (2) Department for Transport, Local Government and the Regions, Office of the Rail Regulator and Ordnance Survey [by Command] [Cm. 5405] [Mr Secretary Darling], and

    (3) Inland Revenue [by Command] [Cm. 5428] [Dawn Primarolo].

32    Industrial Organisation and Development,-Report and Accounts of the Milk Development Council for 2000-01 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

33    Investigatory Powers,-(1) Draft Code of Practice on Covert Human Intelligence Sources, and

    (2) draft Code of Practice on Covert Surveillance

    [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

34    National Audit,-Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Dealing with pollution from ships [by Act]; to be printed [No. 879] [Clerk of the House].

35    Public Petitions,-Observations by the Lord Chancellor on the Petition [9th May] from residents of Knutsford and the surrounding areas against the closure of Knutsford Crown Court [by Standing Order]; to be printed [Clerk of the House].

36    School Standards and Framework,-(1) Account of the East Cleveland Education Action Zone for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 899] [Clerk of the House]; and

    (2) Accounts of the:-

      (a) Ashington Education Action Zone,

      (b) Coventry Education Action Zone,

      (c) Kent/Somerset Virtual Education Action Zone,

      (d) North East Derbyshire Education Action Zone,

      (e) Salford & Trafford Education Action Zone,

      (f) South East England Virtual Education Action Zone,

      (g) South Tyneside Education Action Zone,

      (h) Sunderland Education Action Zone, and

      (i) Wakefield Education Action Zone

    for 2000-01, with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 902, 905, 901, 908, 906, 900, 904, 907 and 903] [Clerk of the House].

37    Trade and Industry,-Department of Trade and Industry Minute, dated 10th June 2002, concerning a proposed contingent liability in respect of an indemnity to be granted to British Nuclear Insurers [by Command] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Police Reform Bill [Lords],-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mrs Anne McGuire from Standing Committee A (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr John Heppell.

2    Private Hire Vehicles (Carriage of Guide Dogs Etc) Bill,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Ms Sally Keeble from Standing Committee C (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr David Jamieson.

3    Finance Bill (except Clauses Nos. 4, 19, 23, 26 to 29, 87 to 92, 131 and 134 and Schedules Nos. 1, 5 and 38),-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Andrew Smith from Standing Committee F (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution John Healey.

4    Draft European Union Extradition (Amendment) Regulations 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mrs Anne McGuire from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr John Heppell.

5    Draft Consular Fees Act 1980 (Fees) Order 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Ben Bradshaw from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr Denis MacShane.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Draft Communications Bill,-(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on the Draft Communications Bill on 27th May; to be printed [No. 876-ii] [Clerk of the House]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on 10th June; to be printed [No. 876-iii] [Nick Harvey].

    2    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Hazardous Waste Sub-Committee of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Hazardous Waste]; to be printed [No. 919-i] [Mr Michael Jack].

    3    Human Rights,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Joint Committee on Human Rights [The Case for a Human Rights Commission for the UK]; to be printed [No. 781-v] [Jean Corston].


THE SPEAKER'S CERTIFICATE

    The Speaker certified that the National Insurance Contributions Bill is a Money Bill within the meaning of the Parliament Act 1911.



 
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