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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 15th May 2002

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Mersey Tunnels Bill,-The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Mersey Tunnels Bill;

    Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Wednesday 22nd May.

2    Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Miss Anne Begg reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Health Service (Control of Patient Information) Regulations 2002.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    European Standing Committee C,-Mr Peter Atkinson reported from European Standing Committee C the following Resolution:

    That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 15194/01, draft Directive amending Directive 94/62/EC on packaging and packaging waste; welcomes it as a positive step towards achieving high levels of environmental and single market protection, whilst limiting the impact upon UK business; and supports the Government's negotiating line.

    Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.

4    National Cancer,-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make provision for cancer services and to establish priority for the treatment of cancer in the allocation of resources within the National Health Service: And that Dr Ian Gibson, Joan Ruddock, Miss Julie Kirkbride, Jane Griffiths, Dr Desmond Turner, Mrs Patsy Calton, Jonathan Shaw and Sandra Gidley do prepare and bring it in.

5    National Cancer Bill,-Dr Ian Gibson accordingly presented a Bill to make provision for cancer services and to establish priority for the treatment of cancer in the allocation of resources within the National Health Service: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 21st June and to be printed [Bill 137].

6    Opposition Day [13th allotted day],-It being an allotted day at the disposal of the leader of the second largest opposition party in pursuance of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), the House proceeded to consider Opposition business.

    Post Office Closures and Royal Mail Deliveries,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House is deeply concerned that, with 10 months left for the transition to automatic credit transfer for the Post Office's 16 million benefit and pension customers, there is great uncertainty and confusion hanging over the network; believes that, in the absence of new sources of income to replace the lost £400 million, many post offices will close, including a third of all urban post offices; is alarmed by reports that new initiatives promised under the PIU Report are failing, in particular that the Your Guide programme is being downgraded and that planning of the Post Office Card Account is well behind schedule; has little confidence that the commercial banks have the ability or motivation to meet the financial needs of many of those Post Office customers expected to migrate to the use of bank accounts; notes that the network's problems coincide with growing losses in Consignia and the threat to its mail services and to the universal service obligation; and calls on the Government to set out a clear policy and timetable for heading off a potentially disastrous collapse of the rural and urban network-(Dr Vincent Cable);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'applauds the Government's decision to accept all 24 of the PIU recommendations in its June 2000 report "Counter Revolution-Modernising the Post Office Network"; notes that Consignia is committed to preventing avoidable closures of rural post offices and has drawn up a code of conduct on how this is to be implemented in conjunction with the consumer watchdog, Postwatch; further applauds the decision of the Government to grant the greater commercial freedom to Consignia that management and unions had long called for; welcomes the action of the Government in appointing a new chairman of Consignia and a new chief executive of Post Office Ltd. and to enshrine in legislation the primary duty of the regulator to preserve the universal service; further applauds the commitment of the Government to a national network of post offices; and further notes the commitment by Post Office Ltd. to ensure that 95 per cent. of people in urban areas will live within a mile of a post office, and the majority within half a mile', instead thereof.-(Mr Douglas Alexander.)

    And the Question being put, That the original words stand part of the Question;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, John Thurso: 195.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Graham Stringer, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe: 307.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):-It was agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House applauds the Government's decision to accept all 24 of the PIU recommendations in its June 2000 report "Counter Revolution-Modernising the Post Office Network"; notes that Consignia is committed to preventing avoidable closures of rural post offices and has drawn up a code of conduct on how this is to be implemented in conjunction with the consumer watchdog, Postwatch; further applauds the decision of the Government to grant the greater commercial freedom to Consignia that management and unions had long called for; welcomes the action of the Government in appointing a new chairman of Consignia and a new chief executive of Post Office Ltd. and to enshrine in legislation the primary duty of the regulator to preserve the universal service; further applauds the commitment of the Government to a national network of post offices; and further notes the commitment by Post Office Ltd. to ensure that 95 per cent. of people in urban areas will live within a mile of a post office, and the majority within half a mile.

    UK Role in the Johannesburg Summit and Promoting Sustainability,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House welcomes the fact that the Prime Minister will be attending the Johannesburg Earth Summit in September, but regrets that the UK is not providing co-ordinated internal or external leadership to ensure the Summit's success, particularly given rising emission of carbon dioxide in the last two years in the UK and the apparent emphasis by the Government on UK business interests ahead of the needs of developing countries; notes with concern the United States' role in the removal of the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change's Chair and for their reneging on the Kyoto Protocol; further notes the damage such events may have on the relationship between rich and poor nations in the run-up to the Summit and the potential negative impact on both environmental and political stability, particularly in view of the close co-operation between the UK Government and US Administration and concern by leading NGOs that the Summit, aiming to reduce inequalities between rich and poor nations and promote an improving world order, may be heading for failure; calls on the Government to take a greater role in leading international discussions in the run-up to Johannesburg and promoting related activities in the UK, particularly the need to employ more sustainable solutions and set long-term targets for the use of renewable energy; and calls on the Government genuinely to put the environment at the heart of government, developing the policies and conditions which will promote local action for truly sustainable agriculture, waste, water management, energy and transport-(Malcolm Bruce);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'applauds the leadership the UK is showing domestically and within the European Union, the G8 and the United Nations for the World Summit on Sustainable Development; welcomes the fact that the Prime Minister intends to attend the Summit; further welcomes the UK's climate change programme which is estimated to overshoot its Kyoto target of a 12.5 per cent. cut in 1990 levels of greenhouse gas emissions by 2012, reaching a cut of 23 per cent.; commends the introduction in the UK last month of the world's first economy-wide greenhouse gas emissions trading scheme; further welcomes the commitment in the Budget to significant increases in the landfill tax to promote recycling and waste minimisation; further applauds the fact that drinking water, river water and bathing water are at the highest ever quality; and calls upon the Government to continue to tackle global poverty through sustainable development', instead thereof.-(Mr Michael Meacher.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;

    Mr Andrew Stunell rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:-It was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Paul Tyler: 56.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Angela Smith: 282.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments):-It was agreed to.

    The Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House applauds the leadership the UK is showing domestically and within the European Union, the G8 and the United Nations for the World Summit on Sustainable Development; welcomes the fact that the Prime Minister intends to attend the Summit; further welcomes the UK's climate change programme which is estimated to overshoot its Kyoto target of a 12.5 per cent. cut in 1990 levels of greenhouse gas emissions by 2012, reaching a cut of 23 per cent.; commends the introduction in the UK last month of the world's first economy-wide greenhouse gas emissions trading scheme; further welcomes the commitment in the Budget to significant increases in the landfill tax to promote recycling and waste minimisation; further applauds the fact that drinking water, river water and bathing water are at the highest ever quality; and calls upon the Government to continue to tackle global poverty through sustainable development.

7    Environmental Protection,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Landfill (England and Wales) Regulations 2002, which were laid before this House on 26th March, be approved-(Dan Norris):-It was agreed to.

8    Pet Travel Scheme,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union Documents Nos. 11596/00 and 12488/01, draft Regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council on the animal health requirements applicable to non-commercial movement of pet animals; and congratulates the Government on securing for the United Kingdom, during the subsequent negotiations, the continuation, for at least five years, of arrangements similar to those contained in the successful United Kingdom Pet Travel Scheme-(Dan Norris):-It was agreed to.

9    Public Accounts,-Ordered, That Mr Frank Field, Mr George Howarth and Mr Nigel Jones be added to the Committee of Public Accounts.-(Dan Norris.)

10    Adjournment,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn-(Dan Norris);

    And the Motion having been made after Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, it being then seventeen minutes to Eleven o'clock, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 11.43 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1    Criminal Law,-Draft Criminal Justice Act 1988 (Offensive Weapons) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

2    National Health Service,-National Health Service (Local Pharmaceutical Services and Pharmaceutical Services) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1009), dated 14th May 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].

3    Pensions,-Judicial Pensions (Pensions Appeal Tribunals) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1347), dated 14th May 2002 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

4    Police,-Police Authorities (Selection Panel) (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1282), dated 7th May 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

5    Road Traffic,-(1) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of Liverpool) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1353),

    (2) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Hampshire) (Borough of Rushmoor) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1352), and

    (3) Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (County of Hampshire) (District of Hart) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1351),

    dated 14th May 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].

Other Papers:

6    Marine and Aviation Insurance (War Risks),-Accounts of the Marine and Aviation Insurance (War Risks) Fund for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 848] [Clerk of the House].

7    Pensions,-Accounts of the Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 847] [Clerk of the House].

8    Police (Northern Ireland),-Accounts of the Police Authority for Northern Ireland, including Accounts of the Royal Ulster Constabulary Fund and the Police Property Fund, for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 850] [Clerk of the House].

9    Social Security Administration (Northern Ireland),-Account of the Northern Ireland National Insurance Fund for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 853] [Clerk of the House].

10    Supreme Court (Northern Ireland),-Land Purchase Account of the Supreme Court of Judicature, Northern Ireland, for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 849] [Clerk of the House].

11    Treaty Series (No. 21, 2002),-Agreement, done at Oslo on 25th August 1998, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Kingdom of Norway relating to the Amendment of the Agreement of 10th May 1976 relating to the Exploitation of the Frigg Field Reservoir and the Transmission of Gas therefrom to the United Kingdom [by Command] [Cm. 5513] [Mr Secretary Straw].

12    Work and Pensions,-Government Response to the First Report from the Work and Pensions Committee, Session 2001-02, on One Pilots: Lessons for Jobcentre Plus [by Command] [Cm. 5505] [Mr Secretary Darling].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Police Reform Bill [Lords]:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee A, and has appointed Mr George Stevenson and Miss Ann Widdecombe Chairmen; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-five Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Bob Ainsworth, Vera Baird, Norman Baker, Mr David Borrow, Annette Brooke, Mr Colin Challen, Mr John Denham, Barbara Follett, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Mr Nick Hawkins, Lady Hermon, Huw Irranca-Davies, Mr Boris Johnson, Mr Kevan Jones, Dr Ashok Kumar, Ian Lucas, Mr John MacDougall, Mrs Anne McGuire, Patrick Mercer, Ms Meg Munn, Mr George Osborne, Mr James Paice, Bridget Prentice, Mr Paul Stinchcombe and Dr Howard Stoate.

2    Private Hire Vehicles (Carriage of Guide Dogs Etc) Bill:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Roger Berry, Mr Tim Boswell, Mr Tom Clarke, Mr Vernon Coaker, Harry Cohen, Mr Edward Davey, Mr Neil Gerrard, Sandra Gidley, Ms Sally Keeble, Alice Mahon, Dr Doug Naysmith, Mr Colin Pickthall, Mr Mark Prisk, Mr Hugo Swire, Angela Watkinson and Mr Dave Watts.

3    Draft Flags Regulations (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) 2002:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mrs Irene Adams Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Clive Betts, Mr Crispin Blunt, Mr Desmond Browne, Richard Burden, Mr John Hayes, Lady Hermon, Alan Howarth, Chris McCafferty, Mr Gordon Marsden, Gillian Merron, Mr Austin Mitchell, Lembit Öpik, Mr Graham Stringer, Mr Hugo Swire, Mr Andrew Turner and Mr Anthony D. Wright.

4    Draft Scotland Act 1998 (Transfer of Functions to the Scottish Ministers etc.) Order 2002 and the draft Scotland Act 1998 (Modification of Schedule 5) Order 2002:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Peter Atkinson Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-one Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Peter Atkinson, John Barrett, Mr Russell Brown, Mr Brian H. Donohoe, Mr Peter Duncan, Mr George Foulkes, David Hamilton, Mr Greg Knight, Mr Mark Lazarowicz, Mr Iain Luke, Mrs Anne McGuire, Rosemary McKenna, Mr Andrew Mitchell, Sandra Osborne, Anne Picking, Mr Alan Reid, Mr Malcolm Savidge, Mr David Stewart, Mr Desmond Swayne, Pete Wishart and Tony Worthington.

5    Draft Regulation of Investigatory Powers (Interception of Communications: Code of Practice) Order 2002:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mrs Irene Adams Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Bob Ainsworth, Mr Richard Allan, Mr John Baron, Mr Roy Beggs, Ann Clwyd, Mr Huw Edwards, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Mr Dominic Grieve, Dr Brian Iddon, Mr Brian Jenkins, Mr Kevan Jones, Patrick Mercer, Joyce Quin, Dr Howard Stoate and Mr Keith Vaz.

6    Draft Consular Fees Act 1980 (Fees) Order 2002:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mrs Marion Roe Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Ben Bradshaw, Mr Ronnie Campbell, Mr Ivor Caplin, John Cryer, Dr Jack Cunningham, Mr Hilton Dawson, Mr Alan Duncan, Michael Fabricant, Norman Lamb, Judy Mallaber, Mr Michael Moore, Mr John Randall, Andrew Selous, Mr Chris Smith, Mr John Smith and Dr Phyllis Starkey.

7    Draft Welfare of Farmed Animals (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2002, the Code of Recommendation for the Welfare of Livestock: Laying Hens, and the Code of Recommendation for the Welfare of Livestock: Meat Chickens and Breeding Chickens:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations and Codes to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Nick Ainger, Mr Richard Bacon, Hugh Bayley, Mr Roger Berry, Peter Bradley, Malcolm Bruce, David Burnside, Mr John Grogan, Mr Kevin Hughes, Julie Morgan, Mr Elliot Morley, Mr Gwyn Prosser, Ms Debra Shipley, Mr Keith Simpson, Mr Desmond Swayne and Mr Bill Wiggin.

8    Draft Army, Air Force and Naval Discipline Acts (Continuation) Order 2002:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Gregory Barker, Mr Harry Barnes, David Burnside, Mr Tony Clarke, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Mr Gerald Howarth, Mr Adam Ingram, Andy King, Dr Stephen Ladyman, Mr David Laws, Mr Ian Liddell-Grainger, Mr Tony McWalter, Dan Norris, Mr James Plaskitt, Geraldine Smith and Joan Walley.

European Standing Committees

9    The Speaker has appointed Mrs Irene Adams Chairman of European Standing Committee A in respect of European Community Document No. 6671/01 on the Strategy on future chemicals policy.

10    European Union Document No. 7727/2/02, relating to World Summit on Sustainable Development, has been referred to European Standing Committee B.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Catering,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Catering Committee [House of Commons Refreshment Facilities]; to be printed [No. 832-ii] [Mr Dennis Turner].

    2    Education and Skills,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education and Skills Committee [Qualifications and Curriculum Authority]; to be printed [No. 862-i] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

    3    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-(1) Sixth Special Report from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [Government Reply to First Report from the Committee, on Foot and Mouth Disease]; to be printed [No. 856]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Future of UK Agriculture: Farming Beyond Subsidies?]; to be printed [No. 550-xi]

    [Mr David Curry].

    4    European Scrutiny,-Twenty-ninth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 152-xxix]; and

    (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [E-Communications Regulatory Framework]; to be printed [No. 857]

    [Mr Jimmy Hood].

    5    Health,-Part of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [Role and Functioning of the NHS Appointments Commission]; to be printed [No. 833-i] [Mr David Hinchliffe].

    6    Northern Ireland Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [Impact in Northern Ireland of Cross-border Road Fuel Price Differentials: Three Years On]; to be printed [No.819-iii] [Mr Michael Mates].

    7    Public Accounts,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts [Construction of Portcullis House, the new parliamentary building]; to be printed [No. 861-i] [Mr Edward Leigh].

    8    Science and Technology,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Science and Technology Committee [The Work of the Office of Science and Technology]; to be printed [No. 860] [Dr Ian Gibson].

    9    Transport, Local Government and the Regions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Transport, Local Government and the Regions Committee [The Bus Industry]; to be printed [No. 828-ii] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].

    10    Welsh Affairs,-Second Report from the Welsh Affairs Committee [Objective 1 European Funding for Wales], together with the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 520] [Mr Martyn Jones].

    11    Work and Pensions,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee [The Government's Employment Strategy]; to be printed [No. 815-iii] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].

[W.H., No. 84]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]

The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

    Adjournment,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned-(Mr Nick Ainger);

    And it being Two o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 2 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker



 
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